09-01-2016, 04:32 PM
Midwestern values?
Stanford Kansas State prediction thread
09-01-2016, 04:50 PM
Vegas has a 48 o/u and favors Stanford by 15. (Down from the opening 16.5.) If my math is correct, the official Vegas prediction is 31.5 - 16.5, which I'll round up to 32-17 for sanity's sake.
Vegas has a 48 o/u and favors Stanford by 15. (Down from the opening 16.5.) If my math is correct, the official Vegas prediction is 31.5 - 16.5, which I'll round up to 32-17 for sanity's sake.
09-01-2016, 05:12 PM
(09-01-2016, 04:12 PM)SeattleTree link Wrote:This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
(09-01-2016, 04:12 PM)SeattleTree link Wrote:This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
09-01-2016, 07:02 PM
(09-01-2016, 05:12 PM)Mauser link Wrote:[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=15489.msg169319#msg169319 date=1472771537]
This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
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Even if you're correct, he wasn't before that play.
(09-01-2016, 05:12 PM)Mauser link Wrote:[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=15489.msg169319#msg169319 date=1472771537]
This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
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Even if you're correct, he wasn't before that play.
09-01-2016, 07:38 PM
(09-01-2016, 07:21 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Feldman has STAN 24 - KSU 13
It seems like a substantial majority of "experts" that I have seen do not expect us to beat the spread. And the spread has narrowed, which suggests that the "smart" money is coming in late on KSU. I hope they are all wrong.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
(09-01-2016, 07:21 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Feldman has STAN 24 - KSU 13
It seems like a substantial majority of "experts" that I have seen do not expect us to beat the spread. And the spread has narrowed, which suggests that the "smart" money is coming in late on KSU. I hope they are all wrong.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
09-01-2016, 08:54 PM
"Experts" seem to avoid predicting blowouts between P5 conference teams. No need to upset a major fan base when no one tracks record ATS aside from Wilner.
09-01-2016, 11:38 PM
Wildcats are very good team as from one of the website which I usually visit:
http://walterfootball.com/collegepicks.php
I hope we do our best and come out with a WIN!
http://walterfootball.com/collegepicks.php
Quote:Kansas State at Stanford.
Line: Stanford by 15.
Friday, 9:00 p.m.
Betting against overrated teams and big-name players is a recipe for success, and that's what I'll be doing here. Christian McCaffrey is a great player and stands a good chance of being a first-round pick, as you can see in my 2017 NFL Mock Draft, but Kansas State is way too good to be two-touchdown underdogs. The Wildcats have some quarterback concerns, but they have a very good defense and happen to be strong in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I expect them to keep this contest close.
I hope we do our best and come out with a WIN!
Wildcats are very good team as from one of the website which I usually visit:
http://walterfootball.com/collegepicks.php
I hope we do our best and come out with a WIN!
http://walterfootball.com/collegepicks.php
Quote:Kansas State at Stanford.
Line: Stanford by 15.
Friday, 9:00 p.m.
Betting against overrated teams and big-name players is a recipe for success, and that's what I'll be doing here. Christian McCaffrey is a great player and stands a good chance of being a first-round pick, as you can see in my 2017 NFL Mock Draft, but Kansas State is way too good to be two-touchdown underdogs. The Wildcats have some quarterback concerns, but they have a very good defense and happen to be strong in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I expect them to keep this contest close.
I hope we do our best and come out with a WIN!
09-02-2016, 05:39 AM
(09-01-2016, 07:38 PM)CornFed link Wrote:[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=15489.msg169340#msg169340 date=1472782875]
Feldman has STAN 24 - KSU 13
It seems like a substantial majority of "experts" that I have seen do not expect us to beat the spread. And the spread has narrowed, which suggests that the "smart" money is coming in late on KSU. I hope they are all wrong.
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As a long time K-State fan I have heard many a story about our reputation in vegas. We almost always beat the spread in football and basketball which makes us an exciting pick. It doesn't mean we win, but we tend to make it closer than the predictions say. So some betters love us, and some. . .not so much.Â
(09-01-2016, 07:38 PM)CornFed link Wrote:[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=15489.msg169340#msg169340 date=1472782875]
Feldman has STAN 24 - KSU 13
It seems like a substantial majority of "experts" that I have seen do not expect us to beat the spread. And the spread has narrowed, which suggests that the "smart" money is coming in late on KSU. I hope they are all wrong.
[/quote]
As a long time K-State fan I have heard many a story about our reputation in vegas. We almost always beat the spread in football and basketball which makes us an exciting pick. It doesn't mean we win, but we tend to make it closer than the predictions say. So some betters love us, and some. . .not so much.Â
(09-01-2016, 07:02 PM)SeattleTree link Wrote:[quote author=Mauser link=topic=15489.msg169323#msg169323 date=1472775126]
[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=15489.msg169319#msg169319 date=1472771537]
This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
[/quote]
Even if you're correct, he wasn't before that play.
[/quote]
So 3 things
He wasn't hurt on the play. He finished the game and jogged off the field after the play.
Second it didn't effect the outcome of the game. Had he received the call and scored KSU would have still won the game by 3. Instead they won by 10.
Third it was 18 ***** years ago. Some times in life you should move on. This is one of those times
(09-01-2016, 07:02 PM)SeattleTree link Wrote:[quote author=Mauser link=topic=15489.msg169323#msg169323 date=1472775126]
[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=15489.msg169319#msg169319 date=1472771537]
This is the same fan base (based on an admittedly small sample size of posters here) who said Travis Ochs facemask against Eric Crouch, which nearly beheaded him, was the best no call ever.
Predicting an injury to any player, let alone a star player? Pathetic. May the woof gods take note and May CMac run free all night long.
It's a well known fact Eric Crouch is part hoot owl.
[/quote]
Even if you're correct, he wasn't before that play.
[/quote]
So 3 things
He wasn't hurt on the play. He finished the game and jogged off the field after the play.
Second it didn't effect the outcome of the game. Had he received the call and scored KSU would have still won the game by 3. Instead they won by 10.
Third it was 18 ***** years ago. Some times in life you should move on. This is one of those times
09-02-2016, 06:12 AM
Quote:We almost always beat the spread in football
I thought I'd look into this claim. I don't know if it's the definitive site, but according to https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/trends/ats_trends/
KSU
2015: 6-7-0 46.2%
2014: 8-5-0 61.5%
2013: 8-5-0 61.5%
Stanford
2015: 10-4-0 71.4%
2014: 7-6-0 53.8%
2013: 7-7-0 50.0%
I also went back to the 2009, which for Stanford fans is relevant because it was the start of our current run of strength. It looks like overall we both have a good record ATS since that time:
Stanford 60-33-1 64.5% (#2)
Kansas St 53-35-1 60.2% (#4)
Looks like we both have something in common when it comes to being underestimated by bettors.
Quote:We almost always beat the spread in football
I thought I'd look into this claim. I don't know if it's the definitive site, but according to https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/trends/ats_trends/
KSU
2015: 6-7-0 46.2%
2014: 8-5-0 61.5%
2013: 8-5-0 61.5%
Stanford
2015: 10-4-0 71.4%
2014: 7-6-0 53.8%
2013: 7-7-0 50.0%
I also went back to the 2009, which for Stanford fans is relevant because it was the start of our current run of strength. It looks like overall we both have a good record ATS since that time:
Stanford 60-33-1 64.5% (#2)
Kansas St 53-35-1 60.2% (#4)
Looks like we both have something in common when it comes to being underestimated by bettors.
09-02-2016, 07:08 AM
Wilner has a generic KSU-covers-the-spread bet: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...more-43301
Wilner has a generic KSU-covers-the-spread bet: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...more-43301
09-02-2016, 08:41 AM
(09-02-2016, 05:47 AM)Mauser link Wrote:So 3 things
He wasn't hurt on the play. He finished the game and jogged off the field after the play.
Second it didn't effect the outcome of the game. Had he received the call and scored KSU would have still won the game by 3. Instead they won by 10.
Third it was 18 giving a very  special  hug years ago. Some times in life you should move on. This is one of those times
That he wasn't hurt on the play is nothing but blind luck. Even K-State fans have to admit that the penalty should have been called. Yet you insist it's the best no call ever.
It likely would not have affected the outcome of the game, but neither of us know that. It would have extended Nebraska's drive and may have affected the outcome. Neither of us will ever know.
Finally, it may have been 18 years ago, but we've heard stories all week of K-State stopping Voldemort Trophy candidates and upsetting more highly ranked teams. Those games were all played when many of the players taking the field tomorrow weren't even born yet. So it's interesting that I should let this go, when you and other K-State fans cling to the past in an effort to justify your chances to stay in the game this evening.
Anyway, as we like to say on The Cardboard, here's to a hard fought injury free game tonight.Â
(09-02-2016, 05:47 AM)Mauser link Wrote:So 3 things
He wasn't hurt on the play. He finished the game and jogged off the field after the play.
Second it didn't effect the outcome of the game. Had he received the call and scored KSU would have still won the game by 3. Instead they won by 10.
Third it was 18 giving a very  special  hug years ago. Some times in life you should move on. This is one of those times
That he wasn't hurt on the play is nothing but blind luck. Even K-State fans have to admit that the penalty should have been called. Yet you insist it's the best no call ever.
It likely would not have affected the outcome of the game, but neither of us know that. It would have extended Nebraska's drive and may have affected the outcome. Neither of us will ever know.
Finally, it may have been 18 years ago, but we've heard stories all week of K-State stopping Voldemort Trophy candidates and upsetting more highly ranked teams. Those games were all played when many of the players taking the field tomorrow weren't even born yet. So it's interesting that I should let this go, when you and other K-State fans cling to the past in an effort to justify your chances to stay in the game this evening.
Anyway, as we like to say on The Cardboard, here's to a hard fought injury free game tonight.Â
09-02-2016, 09:31 AM
Quote:...for much of the world, the expectation is that this is an opportunity for Christian McCaffrey to begin his second Voldemort campaign with a delightful romp over an overmatched foe.
In reality, this game might prove to be a real test.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...-mccaffrey
Quote:...for much of the world, the expectation is that this is an opportunity for Christian McCaffrey to begin his second Voldemort campaign with a delightful romp over an overmatched foe.
In reality, this game might prove to be a real test.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...-mccaffrey
09-02-2016, 09:41 AM
31 - 17 Stanford gets first of 15 wins.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
09-02-2016, 10:13 AM
(09-02-2016, 09:31 AM)EMAW link Wrote:Quote:...for much of the world, the expectation is that this is an opportunity for Christian McCaffrey to begin his second  campaign with a delightful romp over an overmatched foe.
In reality, this game might prove to be a real test.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...-mccaffrey
My summary statement in response to this article is, "Stanford is better than Arkansas was last year". But I did, particularly, like the phrasing of the author when he said, ". . . but they arent used to handling eight Cardinal-caliber linemen blocking power for a crease hound." I love that! Crease hound. I have never heard that term before. It tickles my funny bone.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
(09-02-2016, 09:31 AM)EMAW link Wrote:Quote:...for much of the world, the expectation is that this is an opportunity for Christian McCaffrey to begin his second  campaign with a delightful romp over an overmatched foe.
In reality, this game might prove to be a real test.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...-mccaffrey
My summary statement in response to this article is, "Stanford is better than Arkansas was last year". But I did, particularly, like the phrasing of the author when he said, ". . . but they arent used to handling eight Cardinal-caliber linemen blocking power for a crease hound." I love that! Crease hound. I have never heard that term before. It tickles my funny bone.
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
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