[oldalum]

81Alum great insights!
I wonder if it is analogous to our quarterback position in football. Our offense is so complicated that true freshmen basically have to redshirt their first year, while other more talent-drive programs can start true freshman who have amazing years.

[oldalum]

81Alum great insights!
I wonder if it is analogous to our quarterback position in football. Our offense is so complicated that true freshmen basically have to redshirt their first year, while other more talent-drive programs can start true freshman who have amazing years.

[BobK]

Thanks 07.  Great recap of our season thus far

Hard for Frosh to start right away with an excellent Jr or Sr in front of them.  ;)

We shot 60% from 2 last night.  Not so shabby.

The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

[BobK]

Thanks 07.  Great recap of our season thus far

Hard for Frosh to start right away with an excellent Jr or Sr in front of them.  ;)

We shot 60% from 2 last night.  Not so shabby.

The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

[2006alum]

Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

[2006alum]

Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

[81alum]

The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

Do tell more!  I got all the way in until I realized I was supposed to have RSVPd and so had to awkwardly move against the flow all the way out the building.  I guess I did not pay careful enough attention to my email messages coming from Stanford Athletics.  Next year I will actually read them and respond!

[81alum]

The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

Do tell more!  I got all the way in until I realized I was supposed to have RSVPd and so had to awkwardly move against the flow all the way out the building.  I guess I did not pay careful enough attention to my email messages coming from Stanford Athletics.  Next year I will actually read them and respond!

[BobK]

Many didn't rsvp.  Next time just announce I am 81 let me in 😳😜😀☃️🍽

Yes it was confusing. 

More this afternoon unless chimera posts all 😀

[BobK]

Many didn't rsvp.  Next time just announce I am 81 let me in 😳😜😀☃️🍽

Yes it was confusing. 

More this afternoon unless chimera posts all 😀

[CompSci87]

[quote author=BobK link=topic=16226.msg181666#msg181666 date=1480954200]
The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

Do tell more!  I got all the way in until I realized I was supposed to have RSVPd and so had to awkwardly move against the flow all the way out the building.  I guess I did not pay careful enough attention to my email messages coming from Stanford Athletics.  Next year I will actually read them and respond!
[/quote]

They weren't checking that closely. I did RSVP, but I accidentally wandered past the desk where they were checking off names on the list, and no one called me on it.

[CompSci87]

[quote author=BobK link=topic=16226.msg181666#msg181666 date=1480954200]
The post game was fantastic.  Great food great words from coaches and players. 

Do tell more!  I got all the way in until I realized I was supposed to have RSVPd and so had to awkwardly move against the flow all the way out the building.  I guess I did not pay careful enough attention to my email messages coming from Stanford Athletics.  Next year I will actually read them and respond!
[/quote]

They weren't checking that closely. I did RSVP, but I accidentally wandered past the desk where they were checking off names on the list, and no one called me on it.

[CompSci87]

Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

The answer is earlier in this thread: http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?...#msg181620

[CompSci87]

Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

The answer is earlier in this thread: http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?...#msg181620

[TheFarm07]

This is, I think, one of the differences between Stanford WBB and some other teams.  Certain other teams attract great physical talent that plays well in relatively simple systems and takes less preparation.  Tara runs sophisticated offenses and defenses that leverage one of the advantages that we have--high intelligence and discipline.  Unfortunately, it takes time--sometimes years--for her players to learn the system well enough to internalize it in muscle memory.  Tempie talks about frosh being "a step or two slow" since they are pausing to think a bit too much.  Those who don't get started until November have an even greater disadvantage. 

Someone like Karlie, who was not a physically gifted as some other players, nevertheless has become a crucial contributor because she knows Tara's systems better than anyone else on the court, and can play four positions and know exactly what to do in any situation.

It is frustrating that it takes such a long time to integrate our frosh--and we will no doubt feel the same way next year with another outstanding group coming in.  But I think it is also what has made Stanford so competitive over the years despite the severe limitations on our admissions.

I think your analysis 81 underscores the particular importance in our program of not "missing" when it comes to a recruiting class, because of the time it takes to develop players.

We saw it in the last couple years when we had a (relative) dip in wins and postseason success, because our HS Class of 2012 (the class that just graduated Stanford this past year) was supposed to feature Alyson Beebe the #13 ranked recruit in the nation as the centerpiece. But because she never took the court due to injuries, there was no star player to bridge the gap between Chiney and the class that included Amber, Bonnie and Taylor and then to this year's upperclassmen in Erica and Karlie.

[TheFarm07]

This is, I think, one of the differences between Stanford WBB and some other teams.  Certain other teams attract great physical talent that plays well in relatively simple systems and takes less preparation.  Tara runs sophisticated offenses and defenses that leverage one of the advantages that we have--high intelligence and discipline.  Unfortunately, it takes time--sometimes years--for her players to learn the system well enough to internalize it in muscle memory.  Tempie talks about frosh being "a step or two slow" since they are pausing to think a bit too much.  Those who don't get started until November have an even greater disadvantage. 

Someone like Karlie, who was not a physically gifted as some other players, nevertheless has become a crucial contributor because she knows Tara's systems better than anyone else on the court, and can play four positions and know exactly what to do in any situation.

It is frustrating that it takes such a long time to integrate our frosh--and we will no doubt feel the same way next year with another outstanding group coming in.  But I think it is also what has made Stanford so competitive over the years despite the severe limitations on our admissions.

I think your analysis 81 underscores the particular importance in our program of not "missing" when it comes to a recruiting class, because of the time it takes to develop players.

We saw it in the last couple years when we had a (relative) dip in wins and postseason success, because our HS Class of 2012 (the class that just graduated Stanford this past year) was supposed to feature Alyson Beebe the #13 ranked recruit in the nation as the centerpiece. But because she never took the court due to injuries, there was no star player to bridge the gap between Chiney and the class that included Amber, Bonnie and Taylor and then to this year's upperclassmen in Erica and Karlie.

[2006alum]

[quote author=2006alum link=topic=16226.msg181668#msg181668 date=1480955929]
Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

The answer is earlier in this thread: http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?...#msg181620
[/quote]

Thanks! I came to this thread this AM, didn't see it in 81Alum's recap, and skimmed past the in media res discussion where it was posted. Nice tribute.

I think your analysis 81 underscores the particular importance in our program of not "missing" when it comes to a recruiting class, because of the time it takes to develop players.

We saw it in the last couple years when we had a (relative) dip in wins and postseason success, because our HS Class of 2012 (the class that just graduated Stanford this past year) was supposed to feature Alyson Beebe the #13 ranked recruit in the nation as the centerpiece. But because she never took the court due to injuries, there was no star player to bridge the gap between Chiney and the class that included Amber, Bonnie and Taylor and then to this year's upperclassmen in Erica and Karlie.

Yes. Losing Beebe hurt a lot because that class was already small and not especially strong, and the class above it, while we had many players with strong games, Amber was the only reliable standout. We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level, and Kailee Johnson (#20 from the class of 2013) never developed into the top 20 recruit she was promised to be. Those are two of our only three top 20 recruits among our four class years on this year's team (McCall's the other one), which has also hurt us. It's funny to think that players like Lili and Karlie were not even top 50 recruits and how much more critical they've been to our team. Imagine if they hadn't developed the way they had!

We need to be averaging 1.5 really strong players a season to stand any chance of having a solid roster. That's what makes UConn so incredible - they just keep reloading every year. Fortunately things are really looking up with our incoming class next year and our really strong freshman class this year. If we can get a solid post player to go along with the Hull twins, we should be pretty solid shape going forward.

[2006alum]

[quote author=2006alum link=topic=16226.msg181668#msg181668 date=1480955929]
Thanks for the great recaps and insights. It's funny how the score indicates a total blowout even though there were legitimate issues with our offense for most of the game.

BTW, anyone know what the deal was with the cyan uniforms? Never seen those before. And although we were playing at home, Davis was wearing white. I'm assuming they were in homage to some particular theme or cause?

The answer is earlier in this thread: http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?...#msg181620
[/quote]

Thanks! I came to this thread this AM, didn't see it in 81Alum's recap, and skimmed past the in media res discussion where it was posted. Nice tribute.

I think your analysis 81 underscores the particular importance in our program of not "missing" when it comes to a recruiting class, because of the time it takes to develop players.

We saw it in the last couple years when we had a (relative) dip in wins and postseason success, because our HS Class of 2012 (the class that just graduated Stanford this past year) was supposed to feature Alyson Beebe the #13 ranked recruit in the nation as the centerpiece. But because she never took the court due to injuries, there was no star player to bridge the gap between Chiney and the class that included Amber, Bonnie and Taylor and then to this year's upperclassmen in Erica and Karlie.

Yes. Losing Beebe hurt a lot because that class was already small and not especially strong, and the class above it, while we had many players with strong games, Amber was the only reliable standout. We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level, and Kailee Johnson (#20 from the class of 2013) never developed into the top 20 recruit she was promised to be. Those are two of our only three top 20 recruits among our four class years on this year's team (McCall's the other one), which has also hurt us. It's funny to think that players like Lili and Karlie were not even top 50 recruits and how much more critical they've been to our team. Imagine if they hadn't developed the way they had!

We need to be averaging 1.5 really strong players a season to stand any chance of having a solid roster. That's what makes UConn so incredible - they just keep reloading every year. Fortunately things are really looking up with our incoming class next year and our really strong freshman class this year. If we can get a solid post player to go along with the Hull twins, we should be pretty solid shape going forward.

[TheFarm07]

Yes. Losing Beebe hurt a lot because that class was already small and not especially strong, and the class above it, while we had many players with strong games, Amber was the only reliable standout. We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level, and Kailee Johnson (#20 from the class of 2013) never developed into the top 20 recruit she was promised to be. Those are two of our only three top 20 recruits among our four class years on this year's team (McCall's the other one), which has also hurt us. It's funny to think that players like Lili and Karlie were not even top 50 recruits and how much more critical they've been to our team. Imagine if they hadn't developed the way they had!

We need to be averaging 1.5 really strong players a season to stand any chance of having a solid roster. That's what makes UConn so incredible - they just keep reloading every year. Fortunately things are really looking up with our incoming class next year and our really strong freshman class this year. If we can get a solid post player to go along with the Hull twins, we should be pretty solid shape going forward.

It's a testament to Tara and the coaching staff on their ability to develop players and have a consistently top-25 team year-in and year-out despite the admissions restrictions.

I wish there were more elite-level recruits (top 5 program changing superstars) that had the academic credentials to get into Stanford. We saw what Tara could do when she was able to have Appel, Pedersen, Pohlen and the Ogwumike sisters play for her in a six or seven year timespan - challenge for national titles, make Final Four runs year after year and have a combined loss total over those years equivalent to one good season's worth for most other programs.

I thought our success during those years when we were the one consistent challenger to UConn, especially early on (2009-2011) would inspire more aspiring middle schoolers and such to work for the qualifications to get admitted, but that payoff, which has occurred in other sports had not materialized.

[TheFarm07]

Yes. Losing Beebe hurt a lot because that class was already small and not especially strong, and the class above it, while we had many players with strong games, Amber was the only reliable standout. We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level, and Kailee Johnson (#20 from the class of 2013) never developed into the top 20 recruit she was promised to be. Those are two of our only three top 20 recruits among our four class years on this year's team (McCall's the other one), which has also hurt us. It's funny to think that players like Lili and Karlie were not even top 50 recruits and how much more critical they've been to our team. Imagine if they hadn't developed the way they had!

We need to be averaging 1.5 really strong players a season to stand any chance of having a solid roster. That's what makes UConn so incredible - they just keep reloading every year. Fortunately things are really looking up with our incoming class next year and our really strong freshman class this year. If we can get a solid post player to go along with the Hull twins, we should be pretty solid shape going forward.

It's a testament to Tara and the coaching staff on their ability to develop players and have a consistently top-25 team year-in and year-out despite the admissions restrictions.

I wish there were more elite-level recruits (top 5 program changing superstars) that had the academic credentials to get into Stanford. We saw what Tara could do when she was able to have Appel, Pedersen, Pohlen and the Ogwumike sisters play for her in a six or seven year timespan - challenge for national titles, make Final Four runs year after year and have a combined loss total over those years equivalent to one good season's worth for most other programs.

I thought our success during those years when we were the one consistent challenger to UConn, especially early on (2009-2011) would inspire more aspiring middle schoolers and such to work for the qualifications to get admitted, but that payoff, which has occurred in other sports had not materialized.

[CompSci87]

Yes, I wish our WBB recruiting could be like WVB has been the last couple of years.

[CompSci87]

Yes, I wish our WBB recruiting could be like WVB has been the last couple of years.

[81alum]

We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level,

Taylor had to sit out last year, but has been playing for Harvard this year.  She has appeared in all 8 of their games but not started in any, and is averaging 5.6ppg in 19 minutes.  She is getting the 7th most minutes on the team. 

[81alum]

We also lost Rooks (#18 from class of 2014), who for whatever reason, did not develop at the next level,

Taylor had to sit out last year, but has been playing for Harvard this year.  She has appeared in all 8 of their games but not started in any, and is averaging 5.6ppg in 19 minutes.  She is getting the 7th most minutes on the team. 

[JJJ]

[quote author=JJJ link=topic=16226.msg181620#msg181620 date=1480889512]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16226.msg181617#msg181617 date=1480889374]
[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=16226.msg181615#msg181615 date=1480889245]
What is the occasion for the turquoise uniforms?

Recognition of Native Americans. It seems to be an annual thing.
[/quote]
I wouldn't mind a turquoise replica jersey.

http://www.gostanford.com/news/2016/12/3...-game.aspx
[/quote]

Tara said something at the postgame about how you could buy N7 apparel from "the web site" and it would benefit N7.  But I can't find where to do that -- at least not replica jerseys.
[/quote]

Thanks. I tried searching but also couldn't find any turquoise jerseys. But they had some pretty cool stuff here:
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pw/stanfo...al/80oZa8l

[JJJ]

[quote author=JJJ link=topic=16226.msg181620#msg181620 date=1480889512]
[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=16226.msg181617#msg181617 date=1480889374]
[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=16226.msg181615#msg181615 date=1480889245]
What is the occasion for the turquoise uniforms?

Recognition of Native Americans. It seems to be an annual thing.
[/quote]
I wouldn't mind a turquoise replica jersey.

http://www.gostanford.com/news/2016/12/3...-game.aspx
[/quote]

Tara said something at the postgame about how you could buy N7 apparel from "the web site" and it would benefit N7.  But I can't find where to do that -- at least not replica jerseys.
[/quote]

Thanks. I tried searching but also couldn't find any turquoise jerseys. But they had some pretty cool stuff here:
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pw/stanfo...al/80oZa8l