[JohnR34231]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

[JohnR34231]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

[FarmBoy]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a brobdingnagian hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

[FarmBoy]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a brobdingnagian hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

[JohnR34231]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a of exceedingly large proportions hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

Good idea! See if you can come up with something that hasn't been said before on the subject. (It will be a real challenge).

[JohnR34231]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a of exceedingly large proportions hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

Good idea! See if you can come up with something that hasn't been said before on the subject. (It will be a real challenge).

[Bruce Wang]

Waiting to for my Weenie friends to post this to Facebook.  Will refrain from pointing out that the average final cost of an average Stanford undergraduate education is probably lower when you factor average length of matriculation and financial aid.  As my better half says "Do you always have to bash them?  It's so obvious that Stanford is superior in every way.  It's really bad form when you make fun of them."  My response "That's not true.  They have a better rugby team."  Will let them have this bone and that rugby one.

[Bruce Wang]

Waiting to for my Weenie friends to post this to Facebook.  Will refrain from pointing out that the average final cost of an average Stanford undergraduate education is probably lower when you factor average length of matriculation and financial aid.  As my better half says "Do you always have to bash them?  It's so obvious that Stanford is superior in every way.  It's really bad form when you make fun of them."  My response "That's not true.  They have a better rugby team."  Will let them have this bone and that rugby one.

[Redrum]

...and will have passed their old blue/gold gear on to their children after extracting the promise from the kids that they'll keep them to use if kal ever gets to play in the Rose Bowl.

[Redrum]

...and will have passed their old blue/gold gear on to their children after extracting the promise from the kids that they'll keep them to use if kal ever gets to play in the Rose Bowl.

[fullmetal]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a of exceedingly large proportions hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

No, we can't copy the BI playbook  ;D

[fullmetal]

Oh no, my self worth has just taken a of exceedingly large proportions hit. I think I'll write a multi-page memo about how these rankings are biased against my particular university of preference and that people in the know clearly recognize the brilliance of my particular university.

No, we can't copy the BI playbook  ;D

[Mick]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

[Mick]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

[Treebound]

Laughing at the lowly University so So-So Cal coming in at 116.  Ouch!  Time to put them under Stanford Control again.

[Treebound]

Laughing at the lowly University so So-So Cal coming in at 116.  Ouch!  Time to put them under Stanford Control again.

[johnnyo53]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

AND KAL IS NOW TALKING ABOUT SELLING BOOZE AT FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL GAMES...

[johnnyo53]

Kal is ranked ahead of us in Money Magazine's article on "Best Colleges in Every State".

http://time.com/money/4864614/best-colle...tter-brief

Anyone who has a subscription, cancel it immediately. :)

(Actually the article considers cost of attending as a key factor, so that mitigates it somewhat.)

AND KAL IS NOW TALKING ABOUT SELLING BOOZE AT FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL GAMES...

[CTcard]

Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

I don't really have time to do my usual, "but do you (or they) know what it is they are ranking" post. But, just a few quick notes.

Here is the page that gives the short-form version of how they ranked schools, more details follow towards the bottom of the page.
http://time.com/money/4846386/how-money-...eges-2017/


The short form comment is simply that anyone who cares about such a list should check whether, a) the things being rated are things one cares about - and in a reasonable proportion, b) whether any of the measures used actually measure the things they purport to, and c) whether the numbers used are reliable (personal peeve - the now widely used payscale.com list is massively not).

[CTcard]

Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

I don't really have time to do my usual, "but do you (or they) know what it is they are ranking" post. But, just a few quick notes.

Here is the page that gives the short-form version of how they ranked schools, more details follow towards the bottom of the page.
http://time.com/money/4846386/how-money-...eges-2017/


The short form comment is simply that anyone who cares about such a list should check whether, a) the things being rated are things one cares about - and in a reasonable proportion, b) whether any of the measures used actually measure the things they purport to, and c) whether the numbers used are reliable (personal peeve - the now widely used payscale.com list is massively not).

[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=17168.msg197219#msg197219 date=1502810031]
Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

I don't really have time to do my usual, "but do you (or they) know what it is they are ranking" post. But, just a few quick notes.

Here is the page that gives the short-form version of how they ranked schools, more details follow towards the bottom of the page.
http://time.com/money/4846386/how-money-...eges-2017/


The short form comment is simply that anyone who cares about such a list should check whether, a) the things being rated are things one cares about - and in a reasonable proportion, b) whether any of the measures used actually measure the things they purport to, and c) whether the numbers used are reliable (personal peeve - the now widely used payscale.com list is massively not).
[/quote]

Speaking of payscale, Stanford comes in #5 on their top mid-career pay list.  The only reason I like the list is because my alma mater -- Santa Clara -- does well on it, coming in at #12.  And yes, I know the list is essentially fiction.

[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=17168.msg197219#msg197219 date=1502810031]
Interesting list.  Has Princeton at #1, Michigan at #3, UCB at #4 and UCLA and Stanford tied for #5, with UC Irvine at #7 and UC Davis at #9, just ahead of Harvard at #10.  Five of the top 10 schools are in California.  Outside of the Top Ten, Caltech comes in at #19.

http://time.com/money/best-colleges/rank...-colleges/

I don't really have time to do my usual, "but do you (or they) know what it is they are ranking" post. But, just a few quick notes.

Here is the page that gives the short-form version of how they ranked schools, more details follow towards the bottom of the page.
http://time.com/money/4846386/how-money-...eges-2017/


The short form comment is simply that anyone who cares about such a list should check whether, a) the things being rated are things one cares about - and in a reasonable proportion, b) whether any of the measures used actually measure the things they purport to, and c) whether the numbers used are reliable (personal peeve - the now widely used payscale.com list is massively not).
[/quote]

Speaking of payscale, Stanford comes in #5 on their top mid-career pay list.  The only reason I like the list is because my alma mater -- Santa Clara -- does well on it, coming in at #12.  And yes, I know the list is essentially fiction.