[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=17804.msg209263#msg209263 date=1509369079]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17804.msg209256#msg209256 date=1509345856]
[quote author=BeegDawg link=topic=17804.msg209255#msg209255 date=1509345211]
[quote author=winflop link=topic=17804.msg208787#msg208787 date=1509161619]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=17804.msg208703#msg208703 date=1509129330]
I think Shaw's QB development problem is a bit more subtle: he seems to have great quarterbacks, bad quarterbacks, and no in-between.

I respectfully disagree. Chryst is a mediocre QB. He can lead this team to an 8- or 9-win season but that's the top end. And doubtful a team he leads would win fewer than 6.
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Respectfully disagree.  Without CMac/Bryce Love, it is very easy to visualize Chryst with fewer than 6 wins.
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I mean, UCLA is 4-4 with games left against Utah, ASU, U$C, and ןɐɔ; it seems likely that they will be headed to a 6-6 season, with Josh Rosen as QB.  So yeah, Chryst could easily be a sub-six win QB.  Trent Edwards was a third-round draft pick; in his best year he was 5-6.  Jared Goff was the first pick of the draft and went 1-11 in his first year at ןɐɔ (lifetime record at ןɐɔ 14-23).  Bottom line is that without a decent supporting cast, even an NFL caliber QB can have a sub-six win season, and although Shaw has been quoted as saying he thinks Chryst could go in the NFL draft this year... I have my doubts.

BC
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John Elway

1979  5-5-1
1980  6-5
1981  4-7
1982  5-6  6-5
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Right.  Duh!

BC
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Fixed it.

[Mick]

[quote author=Mick link=topic=17804.msg209263#msg209263 date=1509369079]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17804.msg209256#msg209256 date=1509345856]
[quote author=BeegDawg link=topic=17804.msg209255#msg209255 date=1509345211]
[quote author=winflop link=topic=17804.msg208787#msg208787 date=1509161619]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=17804.msg208703#msg208703 date=1509129330]
I think Shaw's QB development problem is a bit more subtle: he seems to have great quarterbacks, bad quarterbacks, and no in-between.

I respectfully disagree. Chryst is a mediocre QB. He can lead this team to an 8- or 9-win season but that's the top end. And doubtful a team he leads would win fewer than 6.
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Respectfully disagree.  Without CMac/Bryce Love, it is very easy to visualize Chryst with fewer than 6 wins.
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I mean, UCLA is 4-4 with games left against Utah, ASU, U$C, and ןɐɔ; it seems likely that they will be headed to a 6-6 season, with Josh Rosen as QB.  So yeah, Chryst could easily be a sub-six win QB.  Trent Edwards was a third-round draft pick; in his best year he was 5-6.  Jared Goff was the first pick of the draft and went 1-11 in his first year at ןɐɔ (lifetime record at ןɐɔ 14-23).  Bottom line is that without a decent supporting cast, even an NFL caliber QB can have a sub-six win season, and although Shaw has been quoted as saying he thinks Chryst could go in the NFL draft this year... I have my doubts.

BC
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John Elway

1979  5-5-1
1980  6-5
1981  4-7
1982  5-6  6-5
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Right.  Duh!

BC
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Fixed it.

[martyup]

And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

[martyup]

And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

[CowboyIndian]

And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

I think it was going to be the Shreveport Independence Bowl, no?

[CowboyIndian]

And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

I think it was going to be the Shreveport Independence Bowl, no?

[Embo]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=17804.msg209420#msg209420 date=1509413382]
And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

I think it was going to be the Shreveport Independence Bowl, no?
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Correct on both accounts.
The Peach Bowl was almost a guaranteed reward for 1980, if not for the (at the time) greatest upset in Big Game history.  Only the 1986 Big Game was worse.

[Embo]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=17804.msg209420#msg209420 date=1509413382]
And Elway should have played in the Peach Bowl.  >:(

I think it was going to be the Shreveport Independence Bowl, no?
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Correct on both accounts.
The Peach Bowl was almost a guaranteed reward for 1980, if not for the (at the time) greatest upset in Big Game history.  Only the 1986 Big Game was worse.