[SamuelMcF]

Up 9-2 early in the 1st. Freshmen all looking pretty good.

We have 3 scholarship players out with injury: Pickens, Pugh, and Sheffield. Hoping the guys stay foul-free.

[SamuelMcF]

Up 9-2 early in the 1st. Freshmen all looking pretty good.

We have 3 scholarship players out with injury: Pickens, Pugh, and Sheffield. Hoping the guys stay foul-free.

[SamuelMcF]

I jinxed it. Travis has 2 fouls in the first 7 minutes. We still can't figure out zone d. Still up 13-11 but feels like we're losing.

[SamuelMcF]

I jinxed it. Travis has 2 fouls in the first 7 minutes. We still can't figure out zone d. Still up 13-11 but feels like we're losing.

[Spiny_Norman]

Pickens, Pugh, and Sheffield all have foot injuries. EWU seems to have paid attention to UoP's 2nd half comeback vs. Stanford on Sunday. They have played mostly zone. Stanford has had trouble attacking it.  I don't think I have seen Stanford make a jump shot through the first 12 minutes.

Notes - EWU's coach is former C.al PG Shantay Legens.  Their starters included players from Ukraine (last year's Big Sky PoY), Lithuania, and Serbia.

[Spiny_Norman]

Pickens, Pugh, and Sheffield all have foot injuries. EWU seems to have paid attention to UoP's 2nd half comeback vs. Stanford on Sunday. They have played mostly zone. Stanford has had trouble attacking it.  I don't think I have seen Stanford make a jump shot through the first 12 minutes.

Notes - EWU's coach is former C.al PG Shantay Legens.  Their starters included players from Ukraine (last year's Big Sky PoY), Lithuania, and Serbia.

[Spiny_Norman]

Stanford made exactly 1 FG from outside the paint in the 1H.  Pickens really missed.

[Spiny_Norman]

Stanford made exactly 1 FG from outside the paint in the 1H.  Pickens really missed.

[CompSci87]

I gave up and turned it off with Stanford down 10, having shot 1-10 from 3-point range while Eastern Europe Washington shot 10-22.

[CompSci87]

I gave up and turned it off with Stanford down 10, having shot 1-10 from 3-point range while Eastern Europe Washington shot 10-22.

[lex24]

Tough to win when you have a combination of not being able to defend the perimeter and not being able to score on the perimeter. 

[lex24]

Tough to win when you have a combination of not being able to defend the perimeter and not being able to score on the perimeter. 

[Spiny_Norman]

Daejon Davis 0-5 from the field, 4 TOs.  He looks disinterested.  Da Silva on the other hand has been relentless. 12 points and 17 boards so far.

[Spiny_Norman]

Daejon Davis 0-5 from the field, 4 TOs.  He looks disinterested.  Da Silva on the other hand has been relentless. 12 points and 17 boards so far.

[Papa John]

Watching last night's game gave me painful flashbacks to 1981-82. The good news is that the team will get better with the return of Pickens and Sheffield.

[Papa John]

Watching last night's game gave me painful flashbacks to 1981-82. The good news is that the team will get better with the return of Pickens and Sheffield.

[martyup]

Well, that was nice of us to give them their first win over a Pac-12 team in 15 years.  ::)

[martyup]

Well, that was nice of us to give them their first win over a Pac-12 team in 15 years.  ::)

[burger]

I watched most of the game but turned it off with 10 minutes to go after EWU's umpteenth 3-pointer (they only hit 11, but it felt like a million).  The optimist in me thinks that 3 games in 5 days plus injuries to 2 starters and a backup made this an aberration.  The pessimist wonders why Davis, who I'm sure has a lot of upside but maybe isn't quite ready yet, is starting over Cartwright and why Travis and Humphreys are taking so many 3 pointers when they're far more effective inside.

Let's hope for better things on Friday.

[burger]

I watched most of the game but turned it off with 10 minutes to go after EWU's umpteenth 3-pointer (they only hit 11, but it felt like a million).  The optimist in me thinks that 3 games in 5 days plus injuries to 2 starters and a backup made this an aberration.  The pessimist wonders why Davis, who I'm sure has a lot of upside but maybe isn't quite ready yet, is starting over Cartwright and why Travis and Humphreys are taking so many 3 pointers when they're far more effective inside.

Let's hope for better things on Friday.

[Papa John]

From what I could gather, we were shooting three-pointers because our players were open. They just couldn't make many (an understatement).

Teams will play zone against us until we can make our outside shots.

[Papa John]

From what I could gather, we were shooting three-pointers because our players were open. They just couldn't make many (an understatement).

Teams will play zone against us until we can make our outside shots.

[oldalum]

I thought this year we were going to have improved outside shooting?! Hope this game is an aberration.

[oldalum]

I thought this year we were going to have improved outside shooting?! Hope this game is an aberration.

[BobK]

Terrible performance of course. 

I will point out missing 6 players of the 13
Walker retired
Kezie not eligible
Sheffield Pickens and Pugh hurt
Stanback had his warnups on the whole game

That left the gang that can't shoot straight 

[BobK]

Terrible performance of course. 

I will point out missing 6 players of the 13
Walker retired
Kezie not eligible
Sheffield Pickens and Pugh hurt
Stanback had his warnups on the whole game

That left the gang that can't shoot straight 

[Phogge]

They don't remotely have a guy who can take over a game against a good team. It's been a long time.

[Phogge]

They don't remotely have a guy who can take over a game against a good team. It's been a long time.

[teejers1]

And Maples was as dead as I've ever seen the place.  That was both alarming and sad.

For all the LSJUMB detractors, I'll say it again: w/o the band, Stanford's student support at hoops games would be nonexistent and the place really could double as a morgue.

P.S.  Walker . . . retired?  Not sure how that one escaped me.

[teejers1]

And Maples was as dead as I've ever seen the place.  That was both alarming and sad.

For all the LSJUMB detractors, I'll say it again: w/o the band, Stanford's student support at hoops games would be nonexistent and the place really could double as a morgue.

P.S.  Walker . . . retired?  Not sure how that one escaped me.

[Scooter_Stepford]

And Maples was as dead as I've ever seen the place.  That was both alarming and sad.

For all the LSJUMB detractors, I'll say it again: w/o the band, Stanford's student support at hoops games would be nonexistent and the place really could double as a morgue.

At the under 12:00 timeout in the first half, there were 18 people in the student section.

Operations personnel went around to spectators in the upper sections telling them they could move down to the student section.  There weren't many takers.

Agree 100% on the LSJUMB; it's too bad the marketing folks prefer the canned music, up close and personal videos (did you know Trevor Stanback likes pizza and ice cream?!?), and Theo.

Make some noise!

[Scooter_Stepford]

And Maples was as dead as I've ever seen the place.  That was both alarming and sad.

For all the LSJUMB detractors, I'll say it again: w/o the band, Stanford's student support at hoops games would be nonexistent and the place really could double as a morgue.

At the under 12:00 timeout in the first half, there were 18 people in the student section.

Operations personnel went around to spectators in the upper sections telling them they could move down to the student section.  There weren't many takers.

Agree 100% on the LSJUMB; it's too bad the marketing folks prefer the canned music, up close and personal videos (did you know Trevor Stanback likes pizza and ice cream?!?), and Theo.

Make some noise!

[76lsjumb]

Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

[76lsjumb]

Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

[Scooter_Stepford]

Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.

[Scooter_Stepford]

Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.

[76lsjumb]

[quote author=76lsjumb link=topic=18029.msg212926#msg212926 date=1510780762]
Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.
[/quote]

Seems to me that the last three halves [halfs?] played are pretty much indistinguishable from Dawkins-ball at its nadir.  Sure, there are injuries now, but there were back then as well.

[76lsjumb]

[quote author=76lsjumb link=topic=18029.msg212926#msg212926 date=1510780762]
Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.
[/quote]

Seems to me that the last three halves [halfs?] played are pretty much indistinguishable from Dawkins-ball at its nadir.  Sure, there are injuries now, but there were back then as well.

[BostonCard]

[quote author=Scooter_Stepford link=topic=18029.msg212927#msg212927 date=1510781072]
[quote author=76lsjumb link=topic=18029.msg212926#msg212926 date=1510780762]
Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.
[/quote]

Seems to me that the last three halves [halfs?] played are pretty much indistinguishable from Dawkins-ball at its nadir.  Sure, there are injuries now, but there were back then as well.
[/quote]

Seems to me that you could pick an arbitrary three halves of football (say the whole OSU game and first half of the game against WSU) and it would be pretty much indistinguishable from Buddy-ball at its nadir.

I think Haase has a lot to prove.  An outcome not all that much different from Dawkins is definitely possible, but it seems that if we gave Dawkins the greater part of a decade before concluding he wasn't an option, we ought to give Haase at least half as much.

BC

[BostonCard]

[quote author=Scooter_Stepford link=topic=18029.msg212927#msg212927 date=1510781072]
[quote author=76lsjumb link=topic=18029.msg212926#msg212926 date=1510780762]
Aahhhhhh, pining for the good old days...back when we could all just heap mountains of abuse on Johnny D and leave it at that. 

Times were simpler then...

Dawkins earned it.

Too early to know if Haase will get the same treatment.  If he doesn't get some wing guys who are a) healthy and b) can hit a shot, he'll get his.
[/quote]

Seems to me that the last three halves [halfs?] played are pretty much indistinguishable from Dawkins-ball at its nadir.  Sure, there are injuries now, but there were back then as well.
[/quote]

Seems to me that you could pick an arbitrary three halves of football (say the whole OSU game and first half of the game against WSU) and it would be pretty much indistinguishable from Buddy-ball at its nadir.

I think Haase has a lot to prove.  An outcome not all that much different from Dawkins is definitely possible, but it seems that if we gave Dawkins the greater part of a decade before concluding he wasn't an option, we ought to give Haase at least half as much.

BC