[washingtonismoney]

Texas/ND helps ND more than it helps Texas.  Mack Brown prefers recruiting in-state, and he's generally got the pick of the litter (except when Oregon decides to pay an agent to steer a top RB prospect their way).  ND gaining recruiting exposure in Texas helps them out a lot (and they need it), and one wonders exactly how much more money Texas needs that they'd cede recruiting coverage to ND.  Who knows, maybe it'd hurt A&M more since A&M is going to be struggling for recruits soon.  (Who thinks that A&M joining the SEC is really going to open up SEC country recruiting pipelines?  No one from the southeast thinks that College Station is close enough to home to play...)

Would it really help Notre Dame's recruiting much vis-a-vis Texas? It seems to me Texas gets like 95% of the recruits it seriously goes after, because those recruits are invariably Texan, and presumably have had their DNA grafted with a longhorn's at some point in their life. Texas would probably just figure it gives Notre Dame a boost relative to all those other yankees trying to make off with the second tier Texan talent.

[washingtonismoney]

Texas/ND helps ND more than it helps Texas.  Mack Brown prefers recruiting in-state, and he's generally got the pick of the litter (except when Oregon decides to pay an agent to steer a top RB prospect their way).  ND gaining recruiting exposure in Texas helps them out a lot (and they need it), and one wonders exactly how much more money Texas needs that they'd cede recruiting coverage to ND.  Who knows, maybe it'd hurt A&M more since A&M is going to be struggling for recruits soon.  (Who thinks that A&M joining the SEC is really going to open up SEC country recruiting pipelines?  No one from the southeast thinks that College Station is close enough to home to play...)

Would it really help Notre Dame's recruiting much vis-a-vis Texas? It seems to me Texas gets like 95% of the recruits it seriously goes after, because those recruits are invariably Texan, and presumably have had their DNA grafted with a longhorn's at some point in their life. Texas would probably just figure it gives Notre Dame a boost relative to all those other yankees trying to make off with the second tier Texan talent.

[fullmetal]

washingtonismoney--

Yes, that could be the case.  But Texas still loses some highly-rated (for whatever that's worth) recruits to other schools, Lache Seastrunk being the dead horse example here.  I think Texas also lost a recruiting battle for some good OL in recent years.  Goodness knows they whiffed hard on Andrew Luck ;)  (Not sure if he made their radar given the Garrett Gilbert worship going on at the time.)  Good thing Malcolm Brown is still around (and reports are that he looks very good).  The recruiting hit is hard to quantify, and I wouldn't fault Mack for being confident enough in his prowess that the money is worth it.

A politically somewhat-incorrect view of the A&M defection: http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2011/...-aggy.html

(NB: I have a good friend at Ole Miss.)

[fullmetal]

washingtonismoney--

Yes, that could be the case.  But Texas still loses some highly-rated (for whatever that's worth) recruits to other schools, Lache Seastrunk being the dead horse example here.  I think Texas also lost a recruiting battle for some good OL in recent years.  Goodness knows they whiffed hard on Andrew Luck ;)  (Not sure if he made their radar given the Garrett Gilbert worship going on at the time.)  Good thing Malcolm Brown is still around (and reports are that he looks very good).  The recruiting hit is hard to quantify, and I wouldn't fault Mack for being confident enough in his prowess that the money is worth it.

A politically somewhat-incorrect view of the A&M defection: http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2011/...-aggy.html

(NB: I have a good friend at Ole Miss.)

[pefloresjr]

I think ND wants to recruit in Texas by playing SMU or Baylor not Texas.  Texas is arrogant enough to think that anybody, even the Domers would want to be their regular Thanksgiving game.  I don't think ND wants to take on an annual tough game.  ND is the opposite of the new thinking in college football.  I don't think it is unreasonable to not add Texas to your annual schedule.  I would not want Stanford to add Texas to our league schedule on an annual basis.  So, Texas is doing its usual bs big talk by assuming it is irresistible.  They are again wrong.  Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US.  :P
Go Giants.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[pefloresjr]

I think ND wants to recruit in Texas by playing SMU or Baylor not Texas.  Texas is arrogant enough to think that anybody, even the Domers would want to be their regular Thanksgiving game.  I don't think ND wants to take on an annual tough game.  ND is the opposite of the new thinking in college football.  I don't think it is unreasonable to not add Texas to your annual schedule.  I would not want Stanford to add Texas to our league schedule on an annual basis.  So, Texas is doing its usual bs big talk by assuming it is irresistible.  They are again wrong.  Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US.  :P
Go Giants.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[oman]

Texas is arrogant enough to think that anybody, even the Domers would want to be their regular Thanksgiving game.  I don't think ND wants to take on an annual tough game.  .... So, Texas is doing its usual bs big talk by assuming it is irresistible.  They are again wrong.  Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US. 

Not the sharpest knife, eh Flores?  You'd make a good Ag.  Or maybe just thin skin. 

Here is the tweet:

Sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas would seek to replace #TAMU with the University of South Bend on Thanksgiving night if Aggies leave #Big12.

There is nothing remotely in that tweet about assumptions or irresistablity.  "Seek to replace".  Texas has one of the few Thanksgiving day games right now (A thanksgiving weekend game is just kind of another game.)  So seeking a replacement kinds of fits in with the relatively new tradition.

[oman]

Texas is arrogant enough to think that anybody, even the Domers would want to be their regular Thanksgiving game.  I don't think ND wants to take on an annual tough game.  .... So, Texas is doing its usual bs big talk by assuming it is irresistible.  They are again wrong.  Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US. 

Not the sharpest knife, eh Flores?  You'd make a good Ag.  Or maybe just thin skin. 

Here is the tweet:

Sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas would seek to replace #TAMU with the University of South Bend on Thanksgiving night if Aggies leave #Big12.

There is nothing remotely in that tweet about assumptions or irresistablity.  "Seek to replace".  Texas has one of the few Thanksgiving day games right now (A thanksgiving weekend game is just kind of another game.)  So seeking a replacement kinds of fits in with the relatively new tradition.

[pefloresjr]

Well, it's called subtext.  The threat to a&m of replacing them with ND (the historical big name with a very large national following) is meaningless without the assumption that of course ND would want to accept.  Take off that big hat, it's slowing blood flow to your optic nerves and causing you to see everything through Texas colored lenses. 

Cheers,
Pete F.

[pefloresjr]

Well, it's called subtext.  The threat to a&m of replacing them with ND (the historical big name with a very large national following) is meaningless without the assumption that of course ND would want to accept.  Take off that big hat, it's slowing blood flow to your optic nerves and causing you to see everything through Texas colored lenses. 

Cheers,
Pete F.

[oman]

The english is tough to fight, isn't it, flo?

[oman]

The english is tough to fight, isn't it, flo?

[pefloresjr]

Oman,
Not really interested in petty personal posts.  I was just having fun ragging on Texans and all that, in my view, misplaced pride.  I even love several bands and football players from Texas.  ;)  Here's to a great year watching Stanford.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[pefloresjr]

Oman,
Not really interested in petty personal posts.  I was just having fun ragging on Texans and all that, in my view, misplaced pride.  I even love several bands and football players from Texas.  ;)  Here's to a great year watching Stanford.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[fullmetal]

Pete, I know you're just being silly, but stuff like this:

Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US.  :P

...I mean, really?  I was born in Texas!  And you know me...  :P  (I've spent cumulatively 22 years in Austin too.  Maybe I am provincial.)

There's at least one SI.com article talking about the possibility of ND even "joining" the Big 12 for football only.  I mean, that's even crazier than the idea of a UT/ND Thanksgiving game.  I do think ND would end up being the turkey in that match up, but they do need to recruit better from the Texas pipeline.

[fullmetal]

Pete, I know you're just being silly, but stuff like this:

Texas is nothing more than a bunch of descendants of illegal aliens who crossed into Mexico because they were unwanted in the US.  :P

...I mean, really?  I was born in Texas!  And you know me...  :P  (I've spent cumulatively 22 years in Austin too.  Maybe I am provincial.)

There's at least one SI.com article talking about the possibility of ND even "joining" the Big 12 for football only.  I mean, that's even crazier than the idea of a UT/ND Thanksgiving game.  I do think ND would end up being the turkey in that match up, but they do need to recruit better from the Texas pipeline.

[Redrum]

Your assignment is to go to six open boards:  Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, USC,  LSU and ,  say,  Fresno St.    Do this for two weeks.  No coming to the Cardboard.  This is therapy.

Then come back and complain about what a rough ride pete gave Texas.    I dare you.

[Redrum]

Your assignment is to go to six open boards:  Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, USC,  LSU and ,  say,  Fresno St.    Do this for two weeks.  No coming to the Cardboard.  This is therapy.

Then come back and complain about what a rough ride pete gave Texas.    I dare you.

[oman]

Your assignment is to go to six open boards:  Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, the University of Spoiled Children,  LSU and ,  say,  Fresno St.    Do this for two weeks.  No coming to the Cardboard.  This is therapy.

Then come back and complain about what a rough ride pete gave Texas.    I dare you.

Love the ruckus.  But will call out the very weak stuff.

[oman]

Your assignment is to go to six open boards:  Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, the University of Spoiled Children,  LSU and ,  say,  Fresno St.    Do this for two weeks.  No coming to the Cardboard.  This is therapy.

Then come back and complain about what a rough ride pete gave Texas.    I dare you.

Love the ruckus.  But will call out the very weak stuff.

[fullmetal]

Yeah, yeah I know.  I poke my head into Orangebloods once in a while.  Did you see the link I posted to the comic about A&M being rejected by the SEC?  And I read Barking Carnival...I just expect a Stanford sports board to be free of fratricide. 

Anyway, A&M is going to end up as an SEC sub-.500 team.  I just don't see this working out for them.  But hey, the Aggie fan base will get to spend a lot of money to go to hallowed stadiums of SEC football and be abused by hostile, opposing fans.  ND would be interesting but not really nationally relevant for Texas.  Can Stanford and Texas start up another series?

[fullmetal]

Yeah, yeah I know.  I poke my head into Orangebloods once in a while.  Did you see the link I posted to the comic about A&M being rejected by the SEC?  And I read Barking Carnival...I just expect a Stanford sports board to be free of fratricide. 

Anyway, A&M is going to end up as an SEC sub-.500 team.  I just don't see this working out for them.  But hey, the Aggie fan base will get to spend a lot of money to go to hallowed stadiums of SEC football and be abused by hostile, opposing fans.  ND would be interesting but not really nationally relevant for Texas.  Can Stanford and Texas start up another series?

[yvonne]

To add a little gasoline on the Texas A&M/UT fire from last week is this column from the Houston Chronicle. At first, I thought from the tone of the article that it was written by an Aggie, but it's actually from a Longhorn.

http://www.chron.com/sports/justice/arti...144474.php

[yvonne]

To add a little gasoline on the Texas A&M/UT fire from last week is this column from the Houston Chronicle. At first, I thought from the tone of the article that it was written by an Aggie, but it's actually from a Longhorn.

http://www.chron.com/sports/justice/arti...144474.php

[yvonne]

Yeah, so are Jonathan Okanes and John Crumpacker. What's your point?

[yvonne]

Yeah, so are Jonathan Okanes and John Crumpacker. What's your point?

[yvonne]

I wasn't judging the merits of the argument. The tenor of the piece sounded like taunting to me.

[yvonne]

I wasn't judging the merits of the argument. The tenor of the piece sounded like taunting to me.

[oman]

I think both sides are going to be trying to make the best of the situaiton.  The piece raises a good point.  In the context of a very diminished and uninteresting Big12, does Texas really want A&M to leave, and are they second guessing the bluster of the Longhorn Network in the context of chasing A&M off and then being all dressed up with no place to go.

I read it as A&M doing what they need to do, which is justify their decision.  In the context of A&Ms increasing success in overall athletics and the fact that the SEC is one of the top two leagues, they really don't have to work all that hard at justification.

[oman]

I think both sides are going to be trying to make the best of the situaiton.  The piece raises a good point.  In the context of a very diminished and uninteresting Big12, does Texas really want A&M to leave, and are they second guessing the bluster of the Longhorn Network in the context of chasing A&M off and then being all dressed up with no place to go.

I read it as A&M doing what they need to do, which is justify their decision.  In the context of A&Ms increasing success in overall athletics and the fact that the SEC is one of the top two leagues, they really don't have to work all that hard at justification.