I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
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I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
03-02-2020, 02:53 PM
(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
03-02-2020, 03:35 PM
(03-02-2020, 02:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
Based on today's 64, Brown looks ready. Which leaves one spot. At this point I would give Lee a shotat 5.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
(03-02-2020, 02:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
Based on today's 64, Brown looks ready. Which leaves one spot. At this point I would give Lee a shotat 5.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
03-02-2020, 04:17 PM
(03-02-2020, 03:35 PM)GK3 Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
Based on today's 64, Brown looks ready. Which leaves one spot. At this point I would give Lee a shotat 5.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
GK3, the players who play are determined by qualifying. Whomever plays the best during qualifying gets to play in matches. Between Lee, Snyder and Arasu, you would like at least one of them to find a groove. Last year's magical run started when Snyder broke into the lineup at Southern Highlands and then had 3 top 10s in the following 4 tournaments. Would be great if he could find that form again.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
(03-02-2020, 03:35 PM)GK3 Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(03-02-2020, 02:24 PM)GK3 Wrote: I wonder what they served the men's team for breakfast this morning? With most of the guys still on the course, they are -15 today. Frosh Barclay Brown is -6 with 6 holes to play! I had been wondering whether we had anyone who could really go low on occasion, Brown appears to capable of doing that. Anyone know why Snyder hasn't been playing?
I think the other golfers have beat him in qualifying. Don't know if he is in a slump or has some physical ailment. His spring scores in competitive events (which is all we get to see) have not been very good.
Based on today's 64, Brown looks ready. Which leaves one spot. At this point I would give Lee a shotat 5.
To be fair, Coach Ray is trying to find steady, reliable play at 4 and 5. Tuleubayev, Shimp and Ng seem set at 1, 2 and 3. Coach Ray tried Brown and Snyder in Hawaii and they finished 99th and 79th. He tried Lee and Snyder in La Quinta and they finished 63rd and 65th. Maybe Brown is ready to step up, but that still leaves #5 open.
GK3, the players who play are determined by qualifying. Whomever plays the best during qualifying gets to play in matches. Between Lee, Snyder and Arasu, you would like at least one of them to find a groove. Last year's magical run started when Snyder broke into the lineup at Southern Highlands and then had 3 top 10s in the following 4 tournaments. Would be great if he could find that form again.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
03-02-2020, 05:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2020, 05:29 PM by Spiny_Norman.)
(03-02-2020, 04:47 PM)oldalum Wrote:(03-02-2020, 04:17 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: the players who play are determined by qualifying.
Please expand on what comprises "qualifying", thanks!
I don't know exactly how Coach Ray handles qualifying. On my high school golf team, it was a series of stroke play rounds, maybe a simulated 36 hole tournament so that you were not undone by one bad round. If you were one of the top 2 or 3 on the team in a tournament, you were exempt from qualifying. Everyone else had to qualify for the next tournament. You want the players to get used to competing under pressure.
My guess is that Brown and Arasu moved up into the lineup this week based in some part on their performance at Coral Mountain when the rest of the team was at PGA West. Brown shot 69-65-70. Arasu shot 69-69-71.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2020, 05:29 PM by Spiny_Norman.)
(03-02-2020, 04:47 PM)oldalum Wrote:(03-02-2020, 04:17 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: the players who play are determined by qualifying.
Please expand on what comprises "qualifying", thanks!
I don't know exactly how Coach Ray handles qualifying. On my high school golf team, it was a series of stroke play rounds, maybe a simulated 36 hole tournament so that you were not undone by one bad round. If you were one of the top 2 or 3 on the team in a tournament, you were exempt from qualifying. Everyone else had to qualify for the next tournament. You want the players to get used to competing under pressure.
My guess is that Brown and Arasu moved up into the lineup this week based in some part on their performance at Coral Mountain when the rest of the team was at PGA West. Brown shot 69-65-70. Arasu shot 69-69-71.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
03-03-2020, 05:06 AM
Almost certain that Conrad follows a common practice:
The top four players in the most recent tournament play.
Everyone else competes in qualifying (at least 36 holes)
for the fifth (and sixth "spot," if that upcoming tournament allows a sixth player
to compete as an individual.)
Conrad may give some weight to overall performance in these qualifying events.
After I complete my current three year project,
I will see if he'll grant me an interview.
If any of you have questions for him,
post them here or direct message me.
I have several.
Something special seems to be going on in the program.
The top four players in the most recent tournament play.
Everyone else competes in qualifying (at least 36 holes)
for the fifth (and sixth "spot," if that upcoming tournament allows a sixth player
to compete as an individual.)
Conrad may give some weight to overall performance in these qualifying events.
After I complete my current three year project,
I will see if he'll grant me an interview.
If any of you have questions for him,
post them here or direct message me.
I have several.
Something special seems to be going on in the program.
Almost certain that Conrad follows a common practice:
The top four players in the most recent tournament play.
Everyone else competes in qualifying (at least 36 holes)
for the fifth (and sixth "spot," if that upcoming tournament allows a sixth player
to compete as an individual.)
Conrad may give some weight to overall performance in these qualifying events.
After I complete my current three year project,
I will see if he'll grant me an interview.
If any of you have questions for him,
post them here or direct message me.
I have several.
Something special seems to be going on in the program.
The top four players in the most recent tournament play.
Everyone else competes in qualifying (at least 36 holes)
for the fifth (and sixth "spot," if that upcoming tournament allows a sixth player
to compete as an individual.)
Conrad may give some weight to overall performance in these qualifying events.
After I complete my current three year project,
I will see if he'll grant me an interview.
If any of you have questions for him,
post them here or direct message me.
I have several.
Something special seems to be going on in the program.
03-03-2020, 06:15 AM
carryover with tournament rounds more heavily weighted than qualifying rounds and then there will be "contested" qualifying rounds, may be at different tracks, that count toward qualifying. usually more than one slot is in play for qualifying and there is enough openness that someone can get on a streak and move from the bottom of the board to playing when the flag is up.
carryover with tournament rounds more heavily weighted than qualifying rounds and then there will be "contested" qualifying rounds, may be at different tracks, that count toward qualifying. usually more than one slot is in play for qualifying and there is enough openness that someone can get on a streak and move from the bottom of the board to playing when the flag is up.
03-03-2020, 03:53 PM
Tough final round. Course played 3 strokes harder today vs. yesterday.
Brown was in line to win the event until Walker Lee from Texas A&M finished birdie-eagle for a final round 64 to win by one. Brown finished T2.
Daulet struggled, finishing bogey-triple on 2 of the easiest holes on the golf course for a final round 79. That meant that the team had to count Arasu's 78. He finished double-bogey-double.
Team finished 6th overall.
Hulk - I would love to read an in-depth interview with Coach Ray to learn more about how the program operates. Would also appreciate any insight on Snyder's struggles. Has he just lost his mojo?
Brown was in line to win the event until Walker Lee from Texas A&M finished birdie-eagle for a final round 64 to win by one. Brown finished T2.
Daulet struggled, finishing bogey-triple on 2 of the easiest holes on the golf course for a final round 79. That meant that the team had to count Arasu's 78. He finished double-bogey-double.
Team finished 6th overall.
Hulk - I would love to read an in-depth interview with Coach Ray to learn more about how the program operates. Would also appreciate any insight on Snyder's struggles. Has he just lost his mojo?
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Tough final round. Course played 3 strokes harder today vs. yesterday.
Brown was in line to win the event until Walker Lee from Texas A&M finished birdie-eagle for a final round 64 to win by one. Brown finished T2.
Daulet struggled, finishing bogey-triple on 2 of the easiest holes on the golf course for a final round 79. That meant that the team had to count Arasu's 78. He finished double-bogey-double.
Team finished 6th overall.
Hulk - I would love to read an in-depth interview with Coach Ray to learn more about how the program operates. Would also appreciate any insight on Snyder's struggles. Has he just lost his mojo?
Brown was in line to win the event until Walker Lee from Texas A&M finished birdie-eagle for a final round 64 to win by one. Brown finished T2.
Daulet struggled, finishing bogey-triple on 2 of the easiest holes on the golf course for a final round 79. That meant that the team had to count Arasu's 78. He finished double-bogey-double.
Team finished 6th overall.
Hulk - I would love to read an in-depth interview with Coach Ray to learn more about how the program operates. Would also appreciate any insight on Snyder's struggles. Has he just lost his mojo?
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
03-04-2020, 01:46 AM
I would love to hear how they structure practices. I think golf is subject to the same 20 hour rule as other sports and qualifying rounds I think count as 3 hours each. I also think during the season weight room work counts against the 20, but I am not sure about that. At this level I would think practice for each player is pretty individualized. I am wondering with only two coaches, how to they manage to work with each player and focus on the part of the game that player needs the most work with. I think the professionals spend 3 times as much time practicing each week.
I would love to hear how they structure practices. I think golf is subject to the same 20 hour rule as other sports and qualifying rounds I think count as 3 hours each. I also think during the season weight room work counts against the 20, but I am not sure about that. At this level I would think practice for each player is pretty individualized. I am wondering with only two coaches, how to they manage to work with each player and focus on the part of the game that player needs the most work with. I think the professionals spend 3 times as much time practicing each week.
03-04-2020, 04:21 AM
Thanks GK. I will add that.
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
Thanks GK. I will add that.
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
03-05-2020, 08:51 PM
(03-04-2020, 04:21 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: Thanks GK. I will add that.
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
hulk -- there is a limitation but I cannot recall the specifics. I do recall a few coaches grumbling about its seeming non-application to certain coaches. I recall a few European swing coaches "magically" showing up from overseas when they were not allowed.
Coach C should be a fun interview. make sure to ask about diamonds in the rough and development. I think that has been one of his underappreciated talents. football has a brobdingnagian pool of talent to draw from compared to golf.
(03-04-2020, 04:21 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: Thanks GK. I will add that.
Practice for golf seems hard to regulate. So much of golf practice
is just getting out on the practice area or course and working
on what needs working on, without a coach.
And I can ask, unless Slide knows already,
how the NCAA regulates the use of outside coaches--
a specialty short game instructor like Dave Pelz, for example.
Slide, anything here?
hulk -- there is a limitation but I cannot recall the specifics. I do recall a few coaches grumbling about its seeming non-application to certain coaches. I recall a few European swing coaches "magically" showing up from overseas when they were not allowed.
Coach C should be a fun interview. make sure to ask about diamonds in the rough and development. I think that has been one of his underappreciated talents. football has a brobdingnagian pool of talent to draw from compared to golf.
You could argue that practice in golf is beyond regulation.
A player can practice without a coach, anywhere,
working on something the coach has prescribed.
A player can spend an hour on Skype with a short game coach three time zones away--
and on and on.
And devoted golfers will spend hours a day practicing;
many of us tend to obsession, after all.
Anyway:
I will ask.
I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
Again, she impresses me.
Oh Slide--
can you tell me what you know about Maxfli Australian Blades
when you get a moment?
If you no longer have my email:
harry@beckwithpartners.com.
I might have some other questions for you. . .
A player can practice without a coach, anywhere,
working on something the coach has prescribed.
A player can spend an hour on Skype with a short game coach three time zones away--
and on and on.
And devoted golfers will spend hours a day practicing;
many of us tend to obsession, after all.
Anyway:
I will ask.
I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
Again, she impresses me.
Oh Slide--
can you tell me what you know about Maxfli Australian Blades
when you get a moment?
If you no longer have my email:
harry@beckwithpartners.com.
I might have some other questions for you. . .
You could argue that practice in golf is beyond regulation.
A player can practice without a coach, anywhere,
working on something the coach has prescribed.
A player can spend an hour on Skype with a short game coach three time zones away--
and on and on.
And devoted golfers will spend hours a day practicing;
many of us tend to obsession, after all.
Anyway:
I will ask.
I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
Again, she impresses me.
Oh Slide--
can you tell me what you know about Maxfli Australian Blades
when you get a moment?
If you no longer have my email:
harry@beckwithpartners.com.
I might have some other questions for you. . .
A player can practice without a coach, anywhere,
working on something the coach has prescribed.
A player can spend an hour on Skype with a short game coach three time zones away--
and on and on.
And devoted golfers will spend hours a day practicing;
many of us tend to obsession, after all.
Anyway:
I will ask.
I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
Again, she impresses me.
Oh Slide--
can you tell me what you know about Maxfli Australian Blades
when you get a moment?
If you no longer have my email:
harry@beckwithpartners.com.
I might have some other questions for you. . .
(03-06-2020, 04:46 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
This interview from a thread a couple weeks ago is a must listen if you haven't already: podcast interview Anne Walker
(03-06-2020, 04:46 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: I'd also love to "interview" Anne Walker.
This interview from a thread a couple weeks ago is a must listen if you haven't already: podcast interview Anne Walker
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