...then this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk7UL2...gs=pl%2Cwn
Go to 8:20 to about 10:00. (mom's comment at 9:50)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk7UL2...gs=pl%2Cwn
Go to 8:20 to about 10:00. (mom's comment at 9:50)
So you decided to go to Cal...
...then this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk7UL2...gs=pl%2Cwn
Go to 8:20 to about 10:00. (mom's comment at 9:50)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRk7UL2...gs=pl%2Cwn
Go to 8:20 to about 10:00. (mom's comment at 9:50)
(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?Most schools offer fee-waivers, and these days, tons of schools offer waivers to induce additional applications to boost the denominators of their acceptance rates. For a needy credible candidate with strong grades and scores, application fees are the least of their worries. The bigger hurdles are having the the wealth to pay for tutoring, fund travel for sports and competitions, and provide for various extra-curriculars to boost the applicant's soft factors. If anything, the biggest hurdle for lower-income kids is that working a part-time job to help make end's meat doesn't look too fancy these days, to say nothing of the suburban teen who'd like to start saving by lifeguarding at the community pool. Application fees are the tip of the iceberg.
Circling back to this video, it's dismaying to me that an otherwise seemingly-thoughtful Stanford admit seems so eager to exhibit a level of vanity and public self-absorption that would have made the biggest braggart of my generation "back in my day" blanche. I can't believe how quickly the norm has shifted to publicizing all of this, which, as one of the comments below the video said, is such great "content." SMH.
(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?Most schools offer fee-waivers, and these days, tons of schools offer waivers to induce additional applications to boost the denominators of their acceptance rates. For a needy credible candidate with strong grades and scores, application fees are the least of their worries. The bigger hurdles are having the the wealth to pay for tutoring, fund travel for sports and competitions, and provide for various extra-curriculars to boost the applicant's soft factors. If anything, the biggest hurdle for lower-income kids is that working a part-time job to help make end's meat doesn't look too fancy these days, to say nothing of the suburban teen who'd like to start saving by lifeguarding at the community pool. Application fees are the tip of the iceberg.
Circling back to this video, it's dismaying to me that an otherwise seemingly-thoughtful Stanford admit seems so eager to exhibit a level of vanity and public self-absorption that would have made the biggest braggart of my generation "back in my day" blanche. I can't believe how quickly the norm has shifted to publicizing all of this, which, as one of the comments below the video said, is such great "content." SMH.
03-30-2020, 12:25 PM
As a Cornell undergrad, I love the way she pronounces it talking to her grandparents.
As a Cornell undergrad, I love the way she pronounces it talking to her grandparents.
03-30-2020, 12:31 PM
(03-30-2020, 12:04 PM)2006alum Wrote:Reaction videos are absolutely the norm now. Thousands of them are produced each year. You can find them for almost every level of selectivity BTW. You can find people that are genuinely excited to get accepted into Cal State Dominguez Hills, and you definitely can find them for any school that accepts less than 20% of their applicants.(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?Most schools offer fee-waivers, and these days, tons of schools offer waivers to induce additional applications to boost the denominators of their acceptance rates. For a needy credible candidate with strong grades and scores, application fees are the least of their worries. The bigger hurdles are having the the wealth to pay for tutoring, fund travel for sports and competitions, and provide for various extra-curriculars to boost the applicant's soft factors. If anything, the biggest hurdle for lower-income kids is that working a part-time job to help make end's meat doesn't look too fancy these days, to say nothing of the suburban teen who'd like to start saving by lifeguarding at the community pool. Application fees are the tip of the iceberg.
Circling back to this video, it's dismaying to me that an otherwise seemingly-thoughtful Stanford admit seems so eager to exhibit a level of vanity and public self-absorption that would have made the biggest braggart of my generation "back in my day" blanche. I can't believe how quickly the norm has shifted to publicizing all of this, which, as one of the comments below the video said, is such great "content." SMH.
To some degree they are very helpful to HS sophomores and juniors, and the parents of those students. For everyone that ends with an acceptance to Stanford or Ivy league schools, there are 10 or more that end with ...."That's OK, I didn't think...."
This year, in particular, these videos are almost required since these kids can't share their decision experiences after school with their friends. In prior years most of the videos like this would include a group scene on the UC day and the Ivy day as a lot of kids together learning their admission status together of smartphones and tablets immediately after school. Can't do anything like that this year of course.
In fact, I will give every member of the HS Class of 2020 a pass on anything they opt to do on social media as none of us can claim to understand what it is like to graduate in this type of situation. They will not get to enjoy many traditional HS experiences, so I am 100% OK with any of them trying to capture and share the few that remain on video for their friends and extended family to see.
(03-30-2020, 12:04 PM)2006alum Wrote:Reaction videos are absolutely the norm now. Thousands of them are produced each year. You can find them for almost every level of selectivity BTW. You can find people that are genuinely excited to get accepted into Cal State Dominguez Hills, and you definitely can find them for any school that accepts less than 20% of their applicants.(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?Most schools offer fee-waivers, and these days, tons of schools offer waivers to induce additional applications to boost the denominators of their acceptance rates. For a needy credible candidate with strong grades and scores, application fees are the least of their worries. The bigger hurdles are having the the wealth to pay for tutoring, fund travel for sports and competitions, and provide for various extra-curriculars to boost the applicant's soft factors. If anything, the biggest hurdle for lower-income kids is that working a part-time job to help make end's meat doesn't look too fancy these days, to say nothing of the suburban teen who'd like to start saving by lifeguarding at the community pool. Application fees are the tip of the iceberg.
Circling back to this video, it's dismaying to me that an otherwise seemingly-thoughtful Stanford admit seems so eager to exhibit a level of vanity and public self-absorption that would have made the biggest braggart of my generation "back in my day" blanche. I can't believe how quickly the norm has shifted to publicizing all of this, which, as one of the comments below the video said, is such great "content." SMH.
To some degree they are very helpful to HS sophomores and juniors, and the parents of those students. For everyone that ends with an acceptance to Stanford or Ivy league schools, there are 10 or more that end with ...."That's OK, I didn't think...."
This year, in particular, these videos are almost required since these kids can't share their decision experiences after school with their friends. In prior years most of the videos like this would include a group scene on the UC day and the Ivy day as a lot of kids together learning their admission status together of smartphones and tablets immediately after school. Can't do anything like that this year of course.
In fact, I will give every member of the HS Class of 2020 a pass on anything they opt to do on social media as none of us can claim to understand what it is like to graduate in this type of situation. They will not get to enjoy many traditional HS experiences, so I am 100% OK with any of them trying to capture and share the few that remain on video for their friends and extended family to see.
03-30-2020, 12:56 PM
I don't admire the concept of helicopter parenting and the need to pile up the extra curricular. Kids need to be kids and if that means a state school or a JC for a bit so be it. Our boys had a balanced childhood with serious stuff mixed with a bunch of fun, at home and with friends. Both got scholies. I would rather have a kid at SJS and working a part time job to help defray cost while learning about real life than an angst ridden child overburdened with a musical instrument, a travel team, two volunteer projects, a student office and the pressure of a valedictory address on her plate. Sorry, but that's just me, an overachieving graduate of the State School System.
I don't admire the concept of helicopter parenting and the need to pile up the extra curricular. Kids need to be kids and if that means a state school or a JC for a bit so be it. Our boys had a balanced childhood with serious stuff mixed with a bunch of fun, at home and with friends. Both got scholies. I would rather have a kid at SJS and working a part time job to help defray cost while learning about real life than an angst ridden child overburdened with a musical instrument, a travel team, two volunteer projects, a student office and the pressure of a valedictory address on her plate. Sorry, but that's just me, an overachieving graduate of the State School System.
03-30-2020, 02:44 PM
It's a far cry from the Jurassic Age when the lump in your throat disappeared when you realized the envelope you brought in from the mailbox was a fat one.
Anybody else notice that one of the Ivy rejection letters was from the school of engineering that (coincidentally?) was sponsored by a foundation sharing her surname? I'm guessing at least one of her parents is on the OSU faculty.
I spent way more time playing baseball in the street than I ever did at a library. But kids today are much more focused and accomplished at an early age. Her EC's looked more like a job resume.
I was a bit turned off at first by the vanity angle, but this is the way things go these days, and the excitement about the Stanford admission was genuine. Good luck to her.
Anybody else notice that one of the Ivy rejection letters was from the school of engineering that (coincidentally?) was sponsored by a foundation sharing her surname? I'm guessing at least one of her parents is on the OSU faculty.
I spent way more time playing baseball in the street than I ever did at a library. But kids today are much more focused and accomplished at an early age. Her EC's looked more like a job resume.
I was a bit turned off at first by the vanity angle, but this is the way things go these days, and the excitement about the Stanford admission was genuine. Good luck to her.
It's a far cry from the Jurassic Age when the lump in your throat disappeared when you realized the envelope you brought in from the mailbox was a fat one.
Anybody else notice that one of the Ivy rejection letters was from the school of engineering that (coincidentally?) was sponsored by a foundation sharing her surname? I'm guessing at least one of her parents is on the OSU faculty.
I spent way more time playing baseball in the street than I ever did at a library. But kids today are much more focused and accomplished at an early age. Her EC's looked more like a job resume.
I was a bit turned off at first by the vanity angle, but this is the way things go these days, and the excitement about the Stanford admission was genuine. Good luck to her.
Anybody else notice that one of the Ivy rejection letters was from the school of engineering that (coincidentally?) was sponsored by a foundation sharing her surname? I'm guessing at least one of her parents is on the OSU faculty.
I spent way more time playing baseball in the street than I ever did at a library. But kids today are much more focused and accomplished at an early age. Her EC's looked more like a job resume.
I was a bit turned off at first by the vanity angle, but this is the way things go these days, and the excitement about the Stanford admission was genuine. Good luck to her.
There are thousands of these videos on YouTube. Some are from kids who are showing off. If you think this kid is showing off, you haven't seen what's out there. Some kids are listing 23 out of 23 admissions including all 8 Ivies, MIT and Stanford.
I saw several of these yesterday in my boredom. I was looking for the ones with Stanford admits. Almost all were similar in that Stanford trumped every other school when the kid realized Stanford was saying yes.
All of them.
Just to reiterate, there are fee waivers if you are low income.
The new norm is a minimum of 10 applications. 23, 25, or 30 is unwarranted, but that is what is happening.
My daughter applied to 13 six years ago. My son applied to 10. Some of my patients have applied to 20.
I saw several of these yesterday in my boredom. I was looking for the ones with Stanford admits. Almost all were similar in that Stanford trumped every other school when the kid realized Stanford was saying yes.
(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
All of them.
Just to reiterate, there are fee waivers if you are low income.
The new norm is a minimum of 10 applications. 23, 25, or 30 is unwarranted, but that is what is happening.
My daughter applied to 13 six years ago. My son applied to 10. Some of my patients have applied to 20.
There are thousands of these videos on YouTube. Some are from kids who are showing off. If you think this kid is showing off, you haven't seen what's out there. Some kids are listing 23 out of 23 admissions including all 8 Ivies, MIT and Stanford.
I saw several of these yesterday in my boredom. I was looking for the ones with Stanford admits. Almost all were similar in that Stanford trumped every other school when the kid realized Stanford was saying yes.
All of them.
Just to reiterate, there are fee waivers if you are low income.
The new norm is a minimum of 10 applications. 23, 25, or 30 is unwarranted, but that is what is happening.
My daughter applied to 13 six years ago. My son applied to 10. Some of my patients have applied to 20.
I saw several of these yesterday in my boredom. I was looking for the ones with Stanford admits. Almost all were similar in that Stanford trumped every other school when the kid realized Stanford was saying yes.
(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
All of them.
Just to reiterate, there are fee waivers if you are low income.
The new norm is a minimum of 10 applications. 23, 25, or 30 is unwarranted, but that is what is happening.
My daughter applied to 13 six years ago. My son applied to 10. Some of my patients have applied to 20.
03-30-2020, 05:38 PM
Hey Q. We played street football all our young lives. Luckily I had Sunset Gym two blocks away with a small baseball field. Plenty of diamonds in the City. I used to play on a minimum of two teams every summer and our "travel ball" was catch Muni or hitch until we got old enough to drive.
Pedialyte, 23 out of 23 is just showing off and kids today could use a bit more humility. And fun.
Pedialyte, 23 out of 23 is just showing off and kids today could use a bit more humility. And fun.
Hey Q. We played street football all our young lives. Luckily I had Sunset Gym two blocks away with a small baseball field. Plenty of diamonds in the City. I used to play on a minimum of two teams every summer and our "travel ball" was catch Muni or hitch until we got old enough to drive.
Pedialyte, 23 out of 23 is just showing off and kids today could use a bit more humility. And fun.
Pedialyte, 23 out of 23 is just showing off and kids today could use a bit more humility. And fun.
(03-30-2020, 12:31 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Reaction videos are absolutely the norm now. Thousands of them are produced each year. You can find them for almost every level of selectivity BTW. You can find people that are genuinely excited to get accepted into Cal State Dominguez Hills, and you definitely can find them for any school that accepts less than 20% of their applicants.
To some degree they are very helpful to HS sophomores and juniors, and the parents of those students. For everyone that ends with an acceptance to Stanford or Ivy league schools, there are 10 or more that end with ...."That's OK, I didn't think...."
This year, in particular, these videos are almost required since these kids can't share their decision experiences after school with their friends. In prior years most of the videos like this would include a group scene on the UC day and the Ivy day as a lot of kids together learning their admission status together of smartphones and tablets immediately after school. Can't do anything like that this year of course.
In fact, I will give every member of the HS Class of 2020 a pass on anything they opt to do on social media as none of us can claim to understand what it is like to graduate in this type of situation. They will not get to enjoy many traditional HS experiences, so I am 100% OK with any of them trying to capture and share the few that remain on video for their friends and extended family to see.
My young son was in the middle of class when the notification email was supposed to arrive at 12:00 pm. His friend took the video while Little Mick repeatedly refreshed his screen. At 12:03, he received the acceptance email, jumped up, and quietly as he could said "F**K yeah!"
He shared it with us. Didn't put it online. I liked watching it, candidly.
(03-30-2020, 12:56 PM)Phogge Wrote: I don't admire the concept of helicopter parenting and the need to pile up the extra curricular. Kids need to be kids and if that means a state school or a JC for a bit so be it. Our boys had a balanced childhood with serious stuff mixed with a bunch of fun, at home and with friends. Both got scholies. I would rather have a kid at SJS and working a part time job to help defray cost while learning about real life than an angst ridden child overburdened with a musical instrument, a travel team, two volunteer projects, a student office and the pressure of a valedictory address on her plate. Sorry, but that's just me, an overachieving graduate of the State School System.
I think it depends upon the kid. Reminds me of the story of the parent who anxiously asked the music teacher if their son "had what it takes" and the teacher replied "it depends on how you nag him." "How we nag him?" asked the parent. "Yes," said the teacher. "If you nag him to practice, he won't be successful. If you nag him to stop practicing, he'll be successful."
I think some kids have that inner determination and fire to do it. I think some kids have none of that. And there's a wide range in between. I do think students need guidance, if for no other reason than to understand what it takes.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(03-30-2020, 12:31 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Reaction videos are absolutely the norm now. Thousands of them are produced each year. You can find them for almost every level of selectivity BTW. You can find people that are genuinely excited to get accepted into Cal State Dominguez Hills, and you definitely can find them for any school that accepts less than 20% of their applicants.
To some degree they are very helpful to HS sophomores and juniors, and the parents of those students. For everyone that ends with an acceptance to Stanford or Ivy league schools, there are 10 or more that end with ...."That's OK, I didn't think...."
This year, in particular, these videos are almost required since these kids can't share their decision experiences after school with their friends. In prior years most of the videos like this would include a group scene on the UC day and the Ivy day as a lot of kids together learning their admission status together of smartphones and tablets immediately after school. Can't do anything like that this year of course.
In fact, I will give every member of the HS Class of 2020 a pass on anything they opt to do on social media as none of us can claim to understand what it is like to graduate in this type of situation. They will not get to enjoy many traditional HS experiences, so I am 100% OK with any of them trying to capture and share the few that remain on video for their friends and extended family to see.
My young son was in the middle of class when the notification email was supposed to arrive at 12:00 pm. His friend took the video while Little Mick repeatedly refreshed his screen. At 12:03, he received the acceptance email, jumped up, and quietly as he could said "F**K yeah!"
He shared it with us. Didn't put it online. I liked watching it, candidly.
(03-30-2020, 12:56 PM)Phogge Wrote: I don't admire the concept of helicopter parenting and the need to pile up the extra curricular. Kids need to be kids and if that means a state school or a JC for a bit so be it. Our boys had a balanced childhood with serious stuff mixed with a bunch of fun, at home and with friends. Both got scholies. I would rather have a kid at SJS and working a part time job to help defray cost while learning about real life than an angst ridden child overburdened with a musical instrument, a travel team, two volunteer projects, a student office and the pressure of a valedictory address on her plate. Sorry, but that's just me, an overachieving graduate of the State School System.
I think it depends upon the kid. Reminds me of the story of the parent who anxiously asked the music teacher if their son "had what it takes" and the teacher replied "it depends on how you nag him." "How we nag him?" asked the parent. "Yes," said the teacher. "If you nag him to practice, he won't be successful. If you nag him to stop practicing, he'll be successful."
I think some kids have that inner determination and fire to do it. I think some kids have none of that. And there's a wide range in between. I do think students need guidance, if for no other reason than to understand what it takes.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
03-30-2020, 11:25 PM
(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
03-31-2020, 05:52 AM
(03-30-2020, 11:25 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
My dad never went to college. To him, a college was a college was a college.
I think he wouldn't let me apply to the UCs because in the 1959-60 basketball season (when Cal won the NCAA), he was recruited by Pete Newell. He told my dad "Son, Cal is interested in you. What are your grades like?" Dad replied "Cs and Ds." Newell shook his head and said "Son, Cal isn't interested in you." My dad's hated public education, particularly the entire UC system ever since. Totally logical.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(03-30-2020, 11:25 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
My dad never went to college. To him, a college was a college was a college.
I think he wouldn't let me apply to the UCs because in the 1959-60 basketball season (when Cal won the NCAA), he was recruited by Pete Newell. He told my dad "Son, Cal is interested in you. What are your grades like?" Dad replied "Cs and Ds." Newell shook his head and said "Son, Cal isn't interested in you." My dad's hated public education, particularly the entire UC system ever since. Totally logical.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
03-31-2020, 05:47 PM
(03-31-2020, 05:52 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 11:25 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
My dad never went to college. To him, a college was a college was a college.
I think he wouldn't let me apply to the UCs because in the 1959-60 basketball season (when Cal won the NCAA), he was recruited by Pete Newell. He told my dad "Son, Cal is interested in you. What are your grades like?" Dad replied "Cs and Ds." Newell shook his head and said "Son, Cal isn't interested in you." My dad's hated public education, particularly the entire UC system ever since. Totally logical.
I applied to one school - Stanford. My parents refused to pay for the application fee to Cal. Said it wasn't worth the money. Both of my parents attended Stanford in the 50's. If I hadn't gotten into Stanford I would have attended the U of Manitoba where my father worked.
(03-31-2020, 05:52 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 11:25 PM)Canalejas Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:39 AM)Mick Wrote:(03-30-2020, 06:17 AM)Phogge Wrote: How many poor kids can afford so many application fees?
Good question. I only applied to SCU and Stanford. I wanted to apply to some of the UCs, but my dad said it was an extra $50, so forget it.
I only applied to UCB, UCLA, and Stanford (early.) And Stanford waived the app fee.
My dad never went to college. To him, a college was a college was a college.
I think he wouldn't let me apply to the UCs because in the 1959-60 basketball season (when Cal won the NCAA), he was recruited by Pete Newell. He told my dad "Son, Cal is interested in you. What are your grades like?" Dad replied "Cs and Ds." Newell shook his head and said "Son, Cal isn't interested in you." My dad's hated public education, particularly the entire UC system ever since. Totally logical.
I applied to one school - Stanford. My parents refused to pay for the application fee to Cal. Said it wasn't worth the money. Both of my parents attended Stanford in the 50's. If I hadn't gotten into Stanford I would have attended the U of Manitoba where my father worked.
03-31-2020, 06:35 PM
I pitched two great games at the start of my senior season. So the Giants scout comes to my next game. Knocked out in the first. Adios. Had passed on a couple of scholies so I went to State. Never looked back.
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