07-20-2020, 10:39 AM
HS sports now on hold
For football this will have tangible effects on the recruiting landscape - especially for the '21 class, whose early signing day is now BEFORE the season would start. Every year there are guys who blow up as seniors and land a few late offers based on the vastly improved new tape before the "normal" Feb signing day...but now those players will most likely not get that chance. Plus the recruiting services have little material to fine-tune/update their evaluations and rankings, which would typically continue through the summer and fall as camps and more games take place. It will be interesting to see the star ranking makeup when this year's recruiting cycle gets drafted, compared to a typical recruiting cycle.
For football this will have tangible effects on the recruiting landscape - especially for the '21 class, whose early signing day is now BEFORE the season would start. Every year there are guys who blow up as seniors and land a few late offers based on the vastly improved new tape before the "normal" Feb signing day...but now those players will most likely not get that chance. Plus the recruiting services have little material to fine-tune/update their evaluations and rankings, which would typically continue through the summer and fall as camps and more games take place. It will be interesting to see the star ranking makeup when this year's recruiting cycle gets drafted, compared to a typical recruiting cycle.
07-20-2020, 01:00 PM
Actually most all sports have the signing date mid November. So it affects all sport
07-20-2020, 01:10 PM
(07-20-2020, 12:20 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: For football this will have tangible effects on the recruiting landscape - especially for the '21 class, whose early signing day is now BEFORE the season would start. Every year there are guys who blow up as seniors and land a few late offers based on the vastly improved new tape before the "normal" Feb signing day...but now those players will most likely not get that chance. Plus the recruiting services have little material to fine-tune/update their evaluations and rankings, which would typically continue through the summer and fall as camps and more games take place. It will be interesting to see the star ranking makeup when this year's recruiting cycle gets drafted, compared to a typical recruiting cycle.That's all true, but the real challenge for the players in the 2021 and 2022 classes will be the scholarship traffic jam once colleges delay or cancel football.
Like CIF - the first step will be to postpone football into 2021.
Then in December/January they will just cancel sports for the full academic year, as it is so hard to believe COVID19 will be in a good place in December.
Even if football has a spring season (unlikely) I suspect a lot of teams will redshirt as many players as possible for several reasons.
In the end I anticipate the schools will just keep grabbing verbal commits and then find ways to only find scholarship space for the very best athletes.
(07-20-2020, 12:20 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: For football this will have tangible effects on the recruiting landscape - especially for the '21 class, whose early signing day is now BEFORE the season would start. Every year there are guys who blow up as seniors and land a few late offers based on the vastly improved new tape before the "normal" Feb signing day...but now those players will most likely not get that chance. Plus the recruiting services have little material to fine-tune/update their evaluations and rankings, which would typically continue through the summer and fall as camps and more games take place. It will be interesting to see the star ranking makeup when this year's recruiting cycle gets drafted, compared to a typical recruiting cycle.That's all true, but the real challenge for the players in the 2021 and 2022 classes will be the scholarship traffic jam once colleges delay or cancel football.
Like CIF - the first step will be to postpone football into 2021.
Then in December/January they will just cancel sports for the full academic year, as it is so hard to believe COVID19 will be in a good place in December.
Even if football has a spring season (unlikely) I suspect a lot of teams will redshirt as many players as possible for several reasons.
In the end I anticipate the schools will just keep grabbing verbal commits and then find ways to only find scholarship space for the very best athletes.
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As usual the sport of volleyball is not mentioned in the article.
07-20-2020, 03:03 PM
https://cifstate.org/mediacenter/release..._Final.pdf
The CIF's updated calendar is in the link.
So hard to believe that any of those sports could really start up right after the New Year, but that's the new plan.
The CIF's updated calendar is in the link.
So hard to believe that any of those sports could really start up right after the New Year, but that's the new plan.
https://cifstate.org/mediacenter/release..._Final.pdf
The CIF's updated calendar is in the link.
So hard to believe that any of those sports could really start up right after the New Year, but that's the new plan.
The CIF's updated calendar is in the link.
So hard to believe that any of those sports could really start up right after the New Year, but that's the new plan.
07-20-2020, 04:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-20-2020, 04:33 PM by cardcrimson.)
Pennsylvania plans to start all fall sports as originally scheduled. New York postponing until late September. Football on hold in Virginia, other "low risk" sports allowed to go forward.
https://swimswam.com/no-fall-football-fo...eam-ahead/
https://swimswam.com/no-fall-football-fo...eam-ahead/
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(This post was last modified: 07-20-2020, 04:33 PM by cardcrimson.)
Pennsylvania plans to start all fall sports as originally scheduled. New York postponing until late September. Football on hold in Virginia, other "low risk" sports allowed to go forward.
https://swimswam.com/no-fall-football-fo...eam-ahead/
https://swimswam.com/no-fall-football-fo...eam-ahead/
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
07-23-2020, 12:12 AM
(07-20-2020, 11:16 AM)lex24 Wrote: Yep. It did.
No, it didn't.
Weren't you the one calling for creative thinking when it comes to kids in school?
Why doesn't that apply to getting HS kids to play sports?
For the same reason that football can go forward in the fall, even with distance learning (hell, it's safer) - HS sports can also do that. You SiP at home, and your team practices together in a group. Get comfortable with a specific and limited number of kids (harder for football, which has more kids).
But again, just as college soccer should easily go forward, so too should HS soccer (indeed all outdoor sports, though football is probably riskiest).
(07-20-2020, 11:16 AM)lex24 Wrote: Yep. It did.
No, it didn't.
Weren't you the one calling for creative thinking when it comes to kids in school?
Why doesn't that apply to getting HS kids to play sports?
For the same reason that football can go forward in the fall, even with distance learning (hell, it's safer) - HS sports can also do that. You SiP at home, and your team practices together in a group. Get comfortable with a specific and limited number of kids (harder for football, which has more kids).
But again, just as college soccer should easily go forward, so too should HS soccer (indeed all outdoor sports, though football is probably riskiest).
07-23-2020, 12:21 AM
I bring tennis, golf, cross country, and other low risk sports to the fall and move the higher risk sports, including football to the spring.
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I bring tennis, golf, cross country, and other low risk sports to the fall and move the higher risk sports, including football to the spring.
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07-23-2020, 01:42 AM
Golf, okay. Tennis, okay. Cross-country...no. Hanging around a mass start for several minutes before your race starts is a great way to share exhalations. And runners in packs breathing each other's air, even diluted...ehhhh.
Soccer is safer than cross-country, I think (though it's not entirely free of risk).
Swimming...maybe leaving an empty lane between competitors? Diving, sure. The field events of track and field are good.
I'm just spitballing here. A family member contracted covid recently from a *brief* exposure to a presumed positive patient. It's not hard to catch this thing.
Soccer is safer than cross-country, I think (though it's not entirely free of risk).
Swimming...maybe leaving an empty lane between competitors? Diving, sure. The field events of track and field are good.
I'm just spitballing here. A family member contracted covid recently from a *brief* exposure to a presumed positive patient. It's not hard to catch this thing.
Golf, okay. Tennis, okay. Cross-country...no. Hanging around a mass start for several minutes before your race starts is a great way to share exhalations. And runners in packs breathing each other's air, even diluted...ehhhh.
Soccer is safer than cross-country, I think (though it's not entirely free of risk).
Swimming...maybe leaving an empty lane between competitors? Diving, sure. The field events of track and field are good.
I'm just spitballing here. A family member contracted covid recently from a *brief* exposure to a presumed positive patient. It's not hard to catch this thing.
Soccer is safer than cross-country, I think (though it's not entirely free of risk).
Swimming...maybe leaving an empty lane between competitors? Diving, sure. The field events of track and field are good.
I'm just spitballing here. A family member contracted covid recently from a *brief* exposure to a presumed positive patient. It's not hard to catch this thing.
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