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Haley Hodson had it all, until blows to her head...(LA Times)
Haley Hodson had it all, until blows to her head...(LA Times)
Hayley is a second year law student at UCLA
Some of her lawsuit was dismissed. Not sure on the remainder. She sued the ball manufacturer because the ball was not labeled as dangerous
Plus this is a very old story
Some of her lawsuit was dismissed. Not sure on the remainder. She sued the ball manufacturer because the ball was not labeled as dangerous
Plus this is a very old story
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12-08-2020, 11:52 AM
Hodson’s talent at a young age was undeniable. This issue of accountability for her concussion protocol has been argued ad infinitum on another message board a long time ago. One thing for certain this was a terrible tragedy for a young lady that derailed an amazing future in volleyball.
I’m still conflicted about who is responsible for recognizing the symptoms and taking preventative steps. You can’t expect a coach like Dunning or a trainer to evaluate a brain injury other than notice some basic, visually obvious symptoms. That is for a medical specialist in brain trauma to diagnose. The coaches and the volleyball program must take their direction from medical doctors. There’s no evidence I’m aware of that Dunning didn’t follow whatever doctors diagnosed and recommended.
Her father was involved in sports media. Her family is extremely wealthy and financially capable of hiring the best experts at any time to double check anything they disagreed with coming from Stanford doctors. Her family takes no responsibility which may be understandable at first. However, when the family started to have questions they could have sent Hayley to see expert doctors of their own choosing.
Dunning was often criticized for being “too nice a guy”. Hodson or any other player could have asked to stay out of games because they were sick or injured and Dunning would never have pushed back on it.
I’m still undecided about what to do moving forward. I suppose there could be a NCAA rule any time a player gets hit in the head by a ball at practice or in a match they must sit out until evaluated and released by a medical specialist. Having played volleyball I got hit in the head a jillion times and didn’t seem to suffer from it. It’s hard to predict what kind of impact will result in a concussion.
However things turn out in her lawsuit, I wish Hayley well and hope she goes on to have a productive career.
Yeah, one of her lawsuit demands against Stanford and the NCAA is sports manufacturers put warnings on all volleyballs that getting hit in the head by a ball can cause injury. I have my doubts this will change anything. Plus the court hearing this civil matter doesn't have jurisdiction to order manufacturers around the world on what to do.
I’m still conflicted about who is responsible for recognizing the symptoms and taking preventative steps. You can’t expect a coach like Dunning or a trainer to evaluate a brain injury other than notice some basic, visually obvious symptoms. That is for a medical specialist in brain trauma to diagnose. The coaches and the volleyball program must take their direction from medical doctors. There’s no evidence I’m aware of that Dunning didn’t follow whatever doctors diagnosed and recommended.
Her father was involved in sports media. Her family is extremely wealthy and financially capable of hiring the best experts at any time to double check anything they disagreed with coming from Stanford doctors. Her family takes no responsibility which may be understandable at first. However, when the family started to have questions they could have sent Hayley to see expert doctors of their own choosing.
Dunning was often criticized for being “too nice a guy”. Hodson or any other player could have asked to stay out of games because they were sick or injured and Dunning would never have pushed back on it.
I’m still undecided about what to do moving forward. I suppose there could be a NCAA rule any time a player gets hit in the head by a ball at practice or in a match they must sit out until evaluated and released by a medical specialist. Having played volleyball I got hit in the head a jillion times and didn’t seem to suffer from it. It’s hard to predict what kind of impact will result in a concussion.
However things turn out in her lawsuit, I wish Hayley well and hope she goes on to have a productive career.
(12-08-2020, 11:12 AM)BobK Wrote: Hayley is a second year law student at UCLA
Some of her lawsuit was dismissed. Not sure on the remainder. She sued the ball manufacturer because the ball was not labeled as dangerous
Plus this is a very old story
Yeah, one of her lawsuit demands against Stanford and the NCAA is sports manufacturers put warnings on all volleyballs that getting hit in the head by a ball can cause injury. I have my doubts this will change anything. Plus the court hearing this civil matter doesn't have jurisdiction to order manufacturers around the world on what to do.
Hodson’s talent at a young age was undeniable. This issue of accountability for her concussion protocol has been argued ad infinitum on another message board a long time ago. One thing for certain this was a terrible tragedy for a young lady that derailed an amazing future in volleyball.
I’m still conflicted about who is responsible for recognizing the symptoms and taking preventative steps. You can’t expect a coach like Dunning or a trainer to evaluate a brain injury other than notice some basic, visually obvious symptoms. That is for a medical specialist in brain trauma to diagnose. The coaches and the volleyball program must take their direction from medical doctors. There’s no evidence I’m aware of that Dunning didn’t follow whatever doctors diagnosed and recommended.
Her father was involved in sports media. Her family is extremely wealthy and financially capable of hiring the best experts at any time to double check anything they disagreed with coming from Stanford doctors. Her family takes no responsibility which may be understandable at first. However, when the family started to have questions they could have sent Hayley to see expert doctors of their own choosing.
Dunning was often criticized for being “too nice a guy”. Hodson or any other player could have asked to stay out of games because they were sick or injured and Dunning would never have pushed back on it.
I’m still undecided about what to do moving forward. I suppose there could be a NCAA rule any time a player gets hit in the head by a ball at practice or in a match they must sit out until evaluated and released by a medical specialist. Having played volleyball I got hit in the head a jillion times and didn’t seem to suffer from it. It’s hard to predict what kind of impact will result in a concussion.
However things turn out in her lawsuit, I wish Hayley well and hope she goes on to have a productive career.
Yeah, one of her lawsuit demands against Stanford and the NCAA is sports manufacturers put warnings on all volleyballs that getting hit in the head by a ball can cause injury. I have my doubts this will change anything. Plus the court hearing this civil matter doesn't have jurisdiction to order manufacturers around the world on what to do.
I’m still conflicted about who is responsible for recognizing the symptoms and taking preventative steps. You can’t expect a coach like Dunning or a trainer to evaluate a brain injury other than notice some basic, visually obvious symptoms. That is for a medical specialist in brain trauma to diagnose. The coaches and the volleyball program must take their direction from medical doctors. There’s no evidence I’m aware of that Dunning didn’t follow whatever doctors diagnosed and recommended.
Her father was involved in sports media. Her family is extremely wealthy and financially capable of hiring the best experts at any time to double check anything they disagreed with coming from Stanford doctors. Her family takes no responsibility which may be understandable at first. However, when the family started to have questions they could have sent Hayley to see expert doctors of their own choosing.
Dunning was often criticized for being “too nice a guy”. Hodson or any other player could have asked to stay out of games because they were sick or injured and Dunning would never have pushed back on it.
I’m still undecided about what to do moving forward. I suppose there could be a NCAA rule any time a player gets hit in the head by a ball at practice or in a match they must sit out until evaluated and released by a medical specialist. Having played volleyball I got hit in the head a jillion times and didn’t seem to suffer from it. It’s hard to predict what kind of impact will result in a concussion.
However things turn out in her lawsuit, I wish Hayley well and hope she goes on to have a productive career.
(12-08-2020, 11:12 AM)BobK Wrote: Hayley is a second year law student at UCLA
Some of her lawsuit was dismissed. Not sure on the remainder. She sued the ball manufacturer because the ball was not labeled as dangerous
Plus this is a very old story
Yeah, one of her lawsuit demands against Stanford and the NCAA is sports manufacturers put warnings on all volleyballs that getting hit in the head by a ball can cause injury. I have my doubts this will change anything. Plus the court hearing this civil matter doesn't have jurisdiction to order manufacturers around the world on what to do.
12-08-2020, 10:55 PM
Did this have significant bearing on Dunning's retirement? :(
I think the suit intends to drive home the point that volleyball coaches need to know that their very powerful athletes are hitting the ball at high speeds with significant momentum. No longer can a volleyball impact a player's head and not raise a flag in a coach's head. Until this gets national attention, you'll continue to have numerous instances of high school player head trauma being swept under the rug as players and parents never even consider the effect of ball impacts on players' brains.
If the coaching staff did not act in loco parentis as is their traditional responsibility, then...I don't know what to say. Soccer, volleyball, football...all of these sports' coaches need to take brain injury seriously. The courage drill was a sign that such concerns weren't terribly significant.
I think the suit intends to drive home the point that volleyball coaches need to know that their very powerful athletes are hitting the ball at high speeds with significant momentum. No longer can a volleyball impact a player's head and not raise a flag in a coach's head. Until this gets national attention, you'll continue to have numerous instances of high school player head trauma being swept under the rug as players and parents never even consider the effect of ball impacts on players' brains.
If the coaching staff did not act in loco parentis as is their traditional responsibility, then...I don't know what to say. Soccer, volleyball, football...all of these sports' coaches need to take brain injury seriously. The courage drill was a sign that such concerns weren't terribly significant.
Did this have significant bearing on Dunning's retirement? :(
I think the suit intends to drive home the point that volleyball coaches need to know that their very powerful athletes are hitting the ball at high speeds with significant momentum. No longer can a volleyball impact a player's head and not raise a flag in a coach's head. Until this gets national attention, you'll continue to have numerous instances of high school player head trauma being swept under the rug as players and parents never even consider the effect of ball impacts on players' brains.
If the coaching staff did not act in loco parentis as is their traditional responsibility, then...I don't know what to say. Soccer, volleyball, football...all of these sports' coaches need to take brain injury seriously. The courage drill was a sign that such concerns weren't terribly significant.
I think the suit intends to drive home the point that volleyball coaches need to know that their very powerful athletes are hitting the ball at high speeds with significant momentum. No longer can a volleyball impact a player's head and not raise a flag in a coach's head. Until this gets national attention, you'll continue to have numerous instances of high school player head trauma being swept under the rug as players and parents never even consider the effect of ball impacts on players' brains.
If the coaching staff did not act in loco parentis as is their traditional responsibility, then...I don't know what to say. Soccer, volleyball, football...all of these sports' coaches need to take brain injury seriously. The courage drill was a sign that such concerns weren't terribly significant.
12-08-2020, 11:05 PM
Volleyball produces a tremendous amount of joint-related injuries, both in men's and women's versions. Ankles, knees, shoulders, fingers...for a non-contact sport, there are an inordinate number of injuries. Getting "six-packed" by a top-level athlete is not unlike getting punched -- hard. It doesn't surprise me that concussions and other brain damage can result.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
Volleyball produces a tremendous amount of joint-related injuries, both in men's and women's versions. Ankles, knees, shoulders, fingers...for a non-contact sport, there are an inordinate number of injuries. Getting "six-packed" by a top-level athlete is not unlike getting punched -- hard. It doesn't surprise me that concussions and other brain damage can result.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
12-09-2020, 12:16 AM
I was once sent to the hospital with a concussion playing volleyball. Heads aren't meant to absorb knees to them, especially unpadded knees to un-helmeted heads. It honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for volleyball players to wear helmets.
I was once sent to the hospital with a concussion playing volleyball. Heads aren't meant to absorb knees to them, especially unpadded knees to un-helmeted heads. It honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for volleyball players to wear helmets.
12-09-2020, 12:55 AM
(12-09-2020, 12:16 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: I was once sent to the hospital with a concussion playing volleyball. Heads aren't meant to absorb knees to them, especially unpadded knees to un-helmeted heads. It honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for volleyball players to wear helmets.
Agree that many other sports need to take concussion danger much more seriously. Volleyball players also dive to the ground a lot and that can cause cumulative damage, especially in those who have suffered prior concussions.
Cheers,
Pete F.
(12-09-2020, 12:16 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: I was once sent to the hospital with a concussion playing volleyball. Heads aren't meant to absorb knees to them, especially unpadded knees to un-helmeted heads. It honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for volleyball players to wear helmets.
Agree that many other sports need to take concussion danger much more seriously. Volleyball players also dive to the ground a lot and that can cause cumulative damage, especially in those who have suffered prior concussions.
Cheers,
Pete F.
12-09-2020, 10:02 AM
If one had two concussions prior to Stanford should that be documented to stabford traivers coaches and doctors ? Should the national team coach inform Stanford ? Just asking before others jump to conclusions
12-09-2020, 12:37 PM
(12-09-2020, 10:02 AM)BobK Wrote: If one had two concussions prior to Stanford should that be documented to stabford traivers coaches and doctors ? Should the national team coach inform Stanford ? Just asking before others jump to conclusions
No to the team informing another team. Privacy should prevail.
Yes, to the player should inform any team's doctor, and a medical review should be part of the offer made by a team for joining a team. Part of that offer may be a requirement that the prospective member must allow other teams' doctors' medical records be made available before the prospective member may be accepted.
Consider if an athlete played in high school and had a clean medical record. But, out of season an athlete had multiple concussions possibly totally unrelated to their sport. Should a college program invest 4 years of precious-few scholarships in that athlete, if the athlete doesn't divulge information pertinent to their ability to participate?
(12-09-2020, 10:02 AM)BobK Wrote: If one had two concussions prior to Stanford should that be documented to stabford traivers coaches and doctors ? Should the national team coach inform Stanford ? Just asking before others jump to conclusions
No to the team informing another team. Privacy should prevail.
Yes, to the player should inform any team's doctor, and a medical review should be part of the offer made by a team for joining a team. Part of that offer may be a requirement that the prospective member must allow other teams' doctors' medical records be made available before the prospective member may be accepted.
Consider if an athlete played in high school and had a clean medical record. But, out of season an athlete had multiple concussions possibly totally unrelated to their sport. Should a college program invest 4 years of precious-few scholarships in that athlete, if the athlete doesn't divulge information pertinent to their ability to participate?
12-09-2020, 06:08 PM
Not four years because they can medically retire and free up the scholarship. The point still stands.
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Not four years because they can medically retire and free up the scholarship. The point still stands.
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12-09-2020, 06:47 PM
Trivia that only a WVB fan would have interest in:
There are only two players I know who medically retired; Hodson and Charlotte Brown. BobK may know of one or two more. Brown redshirted her first year, played one year, and then retired. Official PR about Brown was lingering injuries from high school. I believe she may also have had a congenital heart condition. They both received medical scholarships through graduation. A considerable cost; I don't know where that financial aid came from.
There was one player in program history who was kicked off the team with cause. She also got a scholarship (non-counter toward team) through graduation.
There are only two players I know who medically retired; Hodson and Charlotte Brown. BobK may know of one or two more. Brown redshirted her first year, played one year, and then retired. Official PR about Brown was lingering injuries from high school. I believe she may also have had a congenital heart condition. They both received medical scholarships through graduation. A considerable cost; I don't know where that financial aid came from.
There was one player in program history who was kicked off the team with cause. She also got a scholarship (non-counter toward team) through graduation.
Trivia that only a WVB fan would have interest in:
There are only two players I know who medically retired; Hodson and Charlotte Brown. BobK may know of one or two more. Brown redshirted her first year, played one year, and then retired. Official PR about Brown was lingering injuries from high school. I believe she may also have had a congenital heart condition. They both received medical scholarships through graduation. A considerable cost; I don't know where that financial aid came from.
There was one player in program history who was kicked off the team with cause. She also got a scholarship (non-counter toward team) through graduation.
There are only two players I know who medically retired; Hodson and Charlotte Brown. BobK may know of one or two more. Brown redshirted her first year, played one year, and then retired. Official PR about Brown was lingering injuries from high school. I believe she may also have had a congenital heart condition. They both received medical scholarships through graduation. A considerable cost; I don't know where that financial aid came from.
There was one player in program history who was kicked off the team with cause. She also got a scholarship (non-counter toward team) through graduation.
12-09-2020, 07:13 PM
All true. A number of Stanford athletes each are moved to medical scholarships
More Football than any other sport and done due to concussions.
I follow scholarships closely. But wvb through Hayley’s JR year thru me. My bet she remained on a VB scholarship
As to others I’ll think but you certainly named three above
More Football than any other sport and done due to concussions.
I follow scholarships closely. But wvb through Hayley’s JR year thru me. My bet she remained on a VB scholarship
As to others I’ll think but you certainly named three above
All true. A number of Stanford athletes each are moved to medical scholarships
More Football than any other sport and done due to concussions.
I follow scholarships closely. But wvb through Hayley’s JR year thru me. My bet she remained on a VB scholarship
As to others I’ll think but you certainly named three above
More Football than any other sport and done due to concussions.
I follow scholarships closely. But wvb through Hayley’s JR year thru me. My bet she remained on a VB scholarship
As to others I’ll think but you certainly named three above
12-09-2020, 09:00 PM
stanford women's basketball was very careful with jamie carey after her concussion. sometimes we get it right.
if we accept haley's story, i would agree with her that she should have been on a concussion protocol and not cleared to play after only a phone call, no physical exam. you can have a patient take their own blood pressure at home to adjust their meds, but you kind of have to do a neurological exam in person - maybe by video - but not by phone.
not sure i agree that the family should have known to paid for an exam by another doc. at that point they had little reason to think that a stanford doc had made a mistake. to educate athletes not to accept "cleared to play" from team docs if they still have neurological symptoms seems to be part of haley's crusade.
if we accept haley's story, i would agree with her that she should have been on a concussion protocol and not cleared to play after only a phone call, no physical exam. you can have a patient take their own blood pressure at home to adjust their meds, but you kind of have to do a neurological exam in person - maybe by video - but not by phone.
not sure i agree that the family should have known to paid for an exam by another doc. at that point they had little reason to think that a stanford doc had made a mistake. to educate athletes not to accept "cleared to play" from team docs if they still have neurological symptoms seems to be part of haley's crusade.
stanford women's basketball was very careful with jamie carey after her concussion. sometimes we get it right.
if we accept haley's story, i would agree with her that she should have been on a concussion protocol and not cleared to play after only a phone call, no physical exam. you can have a patient take their own blood pressure at home to adjust their meds, but you kind of have to do a neurological exam in person - maybe by video - but not by phone.
not sure i agree that the family should have known to paid for an exam by another doc. at that point they had little reason to think that a stanford doc had made a mistake. to educate athletes not to accept "cleared to play" from team docs if they still have neurological symptoms seems to be part of haley's crusade.
if we accept haley's story, i would agree with her that she should have been on a concussion protocol and not cleared to play after only a phone call, no physical exam. you can have a patient take their own blood pressure at home to adjust their meds, but you kind of have to do a neurological exam in person - maybe by video - but not by phone.
not sure i agree that the family should have known to paid for an exam by another doc. at that point they had little reason to think that a stanford doc had made a mistake. to educate athletes not to accept "cleared to play" from team docs if they still have neurological symptoms seems to be part of haley's crusade.
12-10-2020, 04:55 PM
Is there any discussion that lingering concussion effects or post-concussion syndrome was a factor in Sam Wopat's passing?
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Is there any discussion that lingering concussion effects or post-concussion syndrome was a factor in Sam Wopat's passing?
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
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12-10-2020, 06:07 PM
(12-10-2020, 04:55 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Is there any discussion that lingering concussion effects or post-concussion syndrome was a factor in Sam Wopat's passing?
None that I know about. I heard from a number of sources she was battling demons in her mind from early in her high school days. In her final days Sam was extremely anorexic. There was criticism of the Stanford coaching staff that they should have intervened. Easy to criticize after the fact.
It was such a tragic event for her twin sister Carly to find Sam in Sam's closet. Everyone expected Carly to take an extended leave of absence but she managed to hold things together.
(12-10-2020, 04:55 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Is there any discussion that lingering concussion effects or post-concussion syndrome was a factor in Sam Wopat's passing?
None that I know about. I heard from a number of sources she was battling demons in her mind from early in her high school days. In her final days Sam was extremely anorexic. There was criticism of the Stanford coaching staff that they should have intervened. Easy to criticize after the fact.
It was such a tragic event for her twin sister Carly to find Sam in Sam's closet. Everyone expected Carly to take an extended leave of absence but she managed to hold things together.
12-11-2020, 06:20 PM
(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
12-11-2020, 07:54 PM
(12-11-2020, 06:23 PM)BobK Wrote: Wow great you followed up. Best to your daughter
Thanks! She seems as happy with her friends and as cantankerous with her parents as ever, but that's the concern, isn't it. Leave the diagnoses to the experts, and follow their guidance.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(12-11-2020, 06:23 PM)BobK Wrote: Wow great you followed up. Best to your daughter
Thanks! She seems as happy with her friends and as cantankerous with her parents as ever, but that's the concern, isn't it. Leave the diagnoses to the experts, and follow their guidance.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
12-11-2020, 09:06 PM
(12-11-2020, 06:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
I am SO glad to hear that you caught it. And may your daughter have a speedy and full recovery.
(I don't know why, but I somehow felt like I should post it when I saw the story. Maybe that was the purpose.)
(12-11-2020, 06:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
I am SO glad to hear that you caught it. And may your daughter have a speedy and full recovery.
(I don't know why, but I somehow felt like I should post it when I saw the story. Maybe that was the purpose.)
12-11-2020, 09:24 PM
(12-11-2020, 09:06 PM)JJJ Wrote:(12-11-2020, 06:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
I am SO glad to hear that you caught it. And may your daughter have a speedy and full recovery.
(I don't know why, but I somehow felt like I should post it when I saw the story. Maybe that was the purpose.)
Thanks again!. The more information and the more experiences shared, the better for all of us. The ingrained biases to suck it up, to push forward and play through it are in all of us. Really difficult to take a step back and wait for a little bit, though in the long run, it's soooo much better.
Stay well!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(12-11-2020, 09:06 PM)JJJ Wrote:(12-11-2020, 06:20 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:01 AM)JJJ Wrote: https://sports.yahoo.com/volleyball-star...44763.html
Thanks for posting the story--a real life lesson learned because of it.
My daughter took a few shots off her head yesterday in water polo practice. She laughed about it and enjoyed telling the story, but a little later, she complained about a headache and difficulty concentrating. No other symptoms. Because of this post, I chatted with an advice nurse, who scheduled a video call with a doctor, who scheduled an in person visit this afternoon. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a concussion, and will not be having any contact in goal for the next couple of weeks. So glad we caught it.
I am SO glad to hear that you caught it. And may your daughter have a speedy and full recovery.
(I don't know why, but I somehow felt like I should post it when I saw the story. Maybe that was the purpose.)
Thanks again!. The more information and the more experiences shared, the better for all of us. The ingrained biases to suck it up, to push forward and play through it are in all of us. Really difficult to take a step back and wait for a little bit, though in the long run, it's soooo much better.
Stay well!
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
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