[burger]

Good offense overshadowed by bad defense so far.  UCLA is getting wide open threes and matador style defense when they drive.  We don't even try to defend ball screens.

This could get out of hand quickly if we don't clamp down.

[burger]

Good offense overshadowed by bad defense so far.  UCLA is getting wide open threes and matador style defense when they drive.  We don't even try to defend ball screens.

This could get out of hand quickly if we don't clamp down.

[PVTree]

Can we guard Jaques and Juzang? They have taken 23 of their 40 shots.

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They lead by 15 now. UCLA on an 11-0 run.

[PVTree]

Can we guard Jaques and Juzang? They have taken 23 of their 40 shots.

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They lead by 15 now. UCLA on an 11-0 run.

[JJJ]

This is our hole-digging part of the game. Because it’s not gratifying until you have a real deep hole to dig out of. Why make it easy on yourself?

[JJJ]

This is our hole-digging part of the game. Because it’s not gratifying until you have a real deep hole to dig out of. Why make it easy on yourself?

[Card10Fan]

Our offense has been much more enjoyable to watch tonight. Defense not so much. At least so far we are competing and fighting hard. UCLA is just really really good. They are talented enough to win it all. Cronin seems like a guy to dislike. Complains a lot and seems to be yelling at his players all the time.

[Card10Fan]

Our offense has been much more enjoyable to watch tonight. Defense not so much. At least so far we are competing and fighting hard. UCLA is just really really good. They are talented enough to win it all. Cronin seems like a guy to dislike. Complains a lot and seems to be yelling at his players all the time.

[old spanish trail]

Our offense has been much more enjoyable to watch tonight. Defense not so much. At least so far we are competing and fighting hard. UCLA is just really really good. They are talented enough to win it all. Cronin seems like a guy to dislike. Complains a lot and seems to be yelling at his players all the time.

True, but his players don't throw passes to invisible team mates.  McConnell needs to stay low and move '

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Hey, a play with jones putting up a 3

[old spanish trail]

Our offense has been much more enjoyable to watch tonight. Defense not so much. At least so far we are competing and fighting hard. UCLA is just really really good. They are talented enough to win it all. Cronin seems like a guy to dislike. Complains a lot and seems to be yelling at his players all the time.

True, but his players don't throw passes to invisible team mates.  McConnell needs to stay low and move '

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Hey, a play with jones putting up a 3

[JJJ]

Well, they gave it the old college try and I was engaged until the end. Better luck next game!

[JJJ]

Well, they gave it the old college try and I was engaged until the end. Better luck next game!

[old spanish trail]

Well, they gave it the old college try and I was engaged until the end. Better luck next game!

We actually played pretty well on offense, except for a few passes to nowhere. UCLA was hot, and we didn't do much to deter them.

[old spanish trail]

Well, they gave it the old college try and I was engaged until the end. Better luck next game!

We actually played pretty well on offense, except for a few passes to nowhere. UCLA was hot, and we didn't do much to deter them.

[Papa John]

That was better than the debacle in Pauley, but it also showed the gap between the elites and Stanford. What's worse is that Stanford plays at Oregon on Thursday and OSU on Saturday to complete a 4-games-in-7-days-in-3-cities tour.

[Papa John]

That was better than the debacle in Pauley, but it also showed the gap between the elites and Stanford. What's worse is that Stanford plays at Oregon on Thursday and OSU on Saturday to complete a 4-games-in-7-days-in-3-cities tour.

[BillBradley]

A big turning point came at the end of the first half. The score was 31-29 UCLA with 3:45 left, and Haase went with one of those puzzling lineups:

Keefe
Beskind
OConnell
Angel
Ingram

Seriously, that lineup wouldn't beat Oregon St this year. On offense, we are basically playing 3 on 5. And its not like this is an all-world defense either. Angel has a long ways to go defensively and is not able to stop Jaquez. Beskind will certainly take a charge, play nice help D, and dive for any loose ball, but he can't stay with quicker guards and he's not a great rebounder either. He is not one of those players who are legitimate stoppers and can be used as a weapon. Given that he will never score, I just don't understand why Haase puts him in ahead of the other alternatives like Silva or Murrell for instance. Or if there's something I'm not seeing about Beskind and he should be on the court, then at least put him in with guys who can score like Delaire or Raynaud instead of Keefe. 

To me, this is reckless. These players are not interchangeable and I think the coach is letting his team down when he puts lineups like that on the court. 

His only other sub the rest of the half was to bring DeLaire in for Angel at some point.

So, UCLA ends the half on a 10-2 run. Instead of us being right with them at half, we find ourselves down 10.

[BillBradley]

A big turning point came at the end of the first half. The score was 31-29 UCLA with 3:45 left, and Haase went with one of those puzzling lineups:

Keefe
Beskind
OConnell
Angel
Ingram

Seriously, that lineup wouldn't beat Oregon St this year. On offense, we are basically playing 3 on 5. And its not like this is an all-world defense either. Angel has a long ways to go defensively and is not able to stop Jaquez. Beskind will certainly take a charge, play nice help D, and dive for any loose ball, but he can't stay with quicker guards and he's not a great rebounder either. He is not one of those players who are legitimate stoppers and can be used as a weapon. Given that he will never score, I just don't understand why Haase puts him in ahead of the other alternatives like Silva or Murrell for instance. Or if there's something I'm not seeing about Beskind and he should be on the court, then at least put him in with guys who can score like Delaire or Raynaud instead of Keefe. 

To me, this is reckless. These players are not interchangeable and I think the coach is letting his team down when he puts lineups like that on the court. 

His only other sub the rest of the half was to bring DeLaire in for Angel at some point.

So, UCLA ends the half on a 10-2 run. Instead of us being right with them at half, we find ourselves down 10.

[PAsportsfan]

Regarding the end of the first half offensive stall. I was at the game and wanted to post at the time but wanted to “enjoy/focus” instead. 

The lineup was MOC, Beskind, Delaire, Keefe, Ingram. With MOC running the point, what play do you run for a score? The only possible scorer on the floor for three minutes was Ingram.

[PAsportsfan]

Regarding the end of the first half offensive stall. I was at the game and wanted to post at the time but wanted to “enjoy/focus” instead. 

The lineup was MOC, Beskind, Delaire, Keefe, Ingram. With MOC running the point, what play do you run for a score? The only possible scorer on the floor for three minutes was Ingram.

[old spanish trail]

A big turning point came at the end of the first half. The score was 31-29 UCLA with 3:45 left, and Haase went with one of those puzzling lineups:

Keefe
Beskind
OConnell
Angel
Ingram

Seriously, that lineup wouldn't beat Oregon St this year. On offense, we are basically playing 3 on 5. And its not like this is an all-world defense either. Angel has a long ways to go defensively and is not able to stop Jaquez. Beskind will certainly take a charge, play nice help D, and dive for any loose ball, but he can't stay with quicker guards and he's not a great rebounder either. He is not one of those players who are legitimate stoppers and can be used as a weapon. Given that he will never score, I just don't understand why Haase puts him in ahead of the other alternatives like Silva or Murrell for instance. Or if there's something I'm not seeing about Beskind and he should be on the court, then at least put him in with guys who can score like Delaire or Raynaud instead of Keefe. 

To me, this is reckless. These players are not interchangeable and I think the coach is letting his team down when he puts lineups like that on the court. 

His only other sub the rest of the half was to bring DeLaire in for Angel at some point.

So, UCLA ends the half on a 10-2 run. Instead of us being right with them at half, we find ourselves down 10.

Yep, couldn't agree more. Maybe they try to get floor burns in practice. The sub lineup is in even worse shape when UCLA doesn't play along and leaves their top scorers on the floor. Game after game. I don't remember Wash, but in many of the games this kind of lineup catastrophe occurs. I can't think of any explanation other than everybody gets a trophy. And, it's a stinking shame because other than that, and some ill advised play at the end in trying to catch up, they played pretty well.

[old spanish trail]

A big turning point came at the end of the first half. The score was 31-29 UCLA with 3:45 left, and Haase went with one of those puzzling lineups:

Keefe
Beskind
OConnell
Angel
Ingram

Seriously, that lineup wouldn't beat Oregon St this year. On offense, we are basically playing 3 on 5. And its not like this is an all-world defense either. Angel has a long ways to go defensively and is not able to stop Jaquez. Beskind will certainly take a charge, play nice help D, and dive for any loose ball, but he can't stay with quicker guards and he's not a great rebounder either. He is not one of those players who are legitimate stoppers and can be used as a weapon. Given that he will never score, I just don't understand why Haase puts him in ahead of the other alternatives like Silva or Murrell for instance. Or if there's something I'm not seeing about Beskind and he should be on the court, then at least put him in with guys who can score like Delaire or Raynaud instead of Keefe. 

To me, this is reckless. These players are not interchangeable and I think the coach is letting his team down when he puts lineups like that on the court. 

His only other sub the rest of the half was to bring DeLaire in for Angel at some point.

So, UCLA ends the half on a 10-2 run. Instead of us being right with them at half, we find ourselves down 10.

Yep, couldn't agree more. Maybe they try to get floor burns in practice. The sub lineup is in even worse shape when UCLA doesn't play along and leaves their top scorers on the floor. Game after game. I don't remember Wash, but in many of the games this kind of lineup catastrophe occurs. I can't think of any explanation other than everybody gets a trophy. And, it's a stinking shame because other than that, and some ill advised play at the end in trying to catch up, they played pretty well.

[AlbanyCardinal]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

[AlbanyCardinal]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

[teejers1]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

[teejers1]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

[gailtate]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

Yes, the ones Haase recruited and now coaches.

[gailtate]

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

Yes, the ones Haase recruited and now coaches.

[AlbanyCardinal]

No, you didn't read me correctly or I didn't make myself clear. UCLA called the timeouts. I'm just saying that whenever Stanford made a run, Haase changed the lineup. Why not keep a winning lineup in, for once? Why change it all up every time? Who else does that so consistently? And, yes, I would definitely blame Haase for putting in Delaire (and then keeping him in) when the team had been enjoying great success without him during those runs (or at least the last one). Predictably, he fouled, made terrible passes, and tried to do too much (which we saw in the first UCLA matchup, too). I'm no hoops coach or guru, but if I can predict this, why can't the coach?

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

[AlbanyCardinal]

No, you didn't read me correctly or I didn't make myself clear. UCLA called the timeouts. I'm just saying that whenever Stanford made a run, Haase changed the lineup. Why not keep a winning lineup in, for once? Why change it all up every time? Who else does that so consistently? And, yes, I would definitely blame Haase for putting in Delaire (and then keeping him in) when the team had been enjoying great success without him during those runs (or at least the last one). Predictably, he fouled, made terrible passes, and tried to do too much (which we saw in the first UCLA matchup, too). I'm no hoops coach or guru, but if I can predict this, why can't the coach?

I don't get it. Every time Stanford made a run, there'd be a timeout and Haase would make the strangest substitutions. In a matter of minutes, UCLA would take the reins and build a nice lead again. It's to the point where teams take a timeout only to get Haase to make poor substitutions. No need for the other team's coaches to come up with a better game plan -- sit back, relax, and let Haase do his magic.

So it was a Haase timeout that caused the killer 4-point play by UCLA in 2H, after Stanford had cut the lead to 4?  

I agree on EOH lineup - not good.  But otoh, I don't ascribe all blame for everything that goes wrong to Haase.  
There were plenty of real "execution" errors.  That's on the players, folks.

[SamuelMcF]

+/- in the 35 minutes with Harrison Ingram on the floor: EVEN

+/- in the 5 minutes without Harrison Ingram on the floor: -9

Ballgame.

UCLA is a better and more talented team. We mostly played well, and they mostly played well. The more talented team wins basically every time that's the case. This could've easily been a blowout like last time (or most of our other games against top 25 teams), and wasn't. Let's go beat Oregon.

[SamuelMcF]

+/- in the 35 minutes with Harrison Ingram on the floor: EVEN

+/- in the 5 minutes without Harrison Ingram on the floor: -9

Ballgame.

UCLA is a better and more talented team. We mostly played well, and they mostly played well. The more talented team wins basically every time that's the case. This could've easily been a blowout like last time (or most of our other games against top 25 teams), and wasn't. Let's go beat Oregon.

[Goose]

+/- in the 35 minutes with Harrison Ingram on the floor: EVEN

+/- in the 5 minutes without Harrison Ingram on the floor: -9

Ballgame.

UCLA is a better and more talented team. We mostly played well, and they mostly played well. The more talented team wins basically every time that's the case. This could've easily been a blowout like last time (or most of our other games against top 25 teams), and wasn't. Let's go beat Oregon.

Pretty much says it all. Some might argue that Ingram should be asked to play the whole game every game, but maybe that leads to teams fading in February. There is only so much gas in the tank, and the coaches have to guess what the optimal balance is.

[Goose]

+/- in the 35 minutes with Harrison Ingram on the floor: EVEN

+/- in the 5 minutes without Harrison Ingram on the floor: -9

Ballgame.

UCLA is a better and more talented team. We mostly played well, and they mostly played well. The more talented team wins basically every time that's the case. This could've easily been a blowout like last time (or most of our other games against top 25 teams), and wasn't. Let's go beat Oregon.

Pretty much says it all. Some might argue that Ingram should be asked to play the whole game every game, but maybe that leads to teams fading in February. There is only so much gas in the tank, and the coaches have to guess what the optimal balance is.

[doubledub]

Something is off with Delaire...he double clutches nearly every time he goes to the hoop and tries to hang in the air too long and then gets his shot blocked or horribly altered. He seems to have little confidence that he can get his shot off without all of that and other teams know it.

[doubledub]

Something is off with Delaire...he double clutches nearly every time he goes to the hoop and tries to hang in the air too long and then gets his shot blocked or horribly altered. He seems to have little confidence that he can get his shot off without all of that and other teams know it.