11-06-2022, 05:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2022, 05:03 PM by cardcrimson.)
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(11-07-2022, 06:14 AM)Card07 Wrote: College football has very clearly moved away from student-athletes towards minor league semi-pro training camp for pseudo-students.
What Stanford did with recruiting in the 2009ish timeframe was nothing but remarkable. Not sure it works in the era of NIL and the transfer portal.
(11-07-2022, 06:14 AM)Card07 Wrote: College football has very clearly moved away from student-athletes towards minor league semi-pro training camp for pseudo-students.
What Stanford did with recruiting in the 2009ish timeframe was nothing but remarkable. Not sure it works in the era of NIL and the transfer portal.
(11-07-2022, 06:38 AM)Mick Wrote:(11-07-2022, 06:14 AM)Card07 Wrote: College football has very clearly moved away from student-athletes towards minor league semi-pro training camp for pseudo-students.
What Stanford did with recruiting in the 2009ish timeframe was nothing but remarkable. Not sure it works in the era of NIL and the transfer portal.
I don't think it's semi-pro so much as it is "pro." They can be paid directly through NIL, they can transfer to play for another team with few barriers, and they still get room, board, tuition, books, gear, training table, coaching, and, I suspect for the majority of them, they are admitted to a university that, in the absence of football, they wouldn't have a prayer of being admitted.
The only reason that universities are involved is a century of tradition from Princeton v. Rutgers in 1869 onward. Otherwise, it would be the San Jose Apaches semi-pro team playing in front of average crowds of 3,800 -- an unsustainable model at best. You remember the Apaches, right? Jerry Bradley and Jack Schraub from Cal, Chon Gallegos and nine other guys from San Jose State; Bob Conrad, John Guillory, John Read and C. B. Simons from Stanford; Gary Filizetti (who later founded DevCon) from Santa Clara. Almost every player was in their early '20s. No one wanted to see them. Put a "Michigan" jersey on, and 110k want to see them.
(11-07-2022, 06:38 AM)Mick Wrote:(11-07-2022, 06:14 AM)Card07 Wrote: College football has very clearly moved away from student-athletes towards minor league semi-pro training camp for pseudo-students.
What Stanford did with recruiting in the 2009ish timeframe was nothing but remarkable. Not sure it works in the era of NIL and the transfer portal.
I don't think it's semi-pro so much as it is "pro." They can be paid directly through NIL, they can transfer to play for another team with few barriers, and they still get room, board, tuition, books, gear, training table, coaching, and, I suspect for the majority of them, they are admitted to a university that, in the absence of football, they wouldn't have a prayer of being admitted.
The only reason that universities are involved is a century of tradition from Princeton v. Rutgers in 1869 onward. Otherwise, it would be the San Jose Apaches semi-pro team playing in front of average crowds of 3,800 -- an unsustainable model at best. You remember the Apaches, right? Jerry Bradley and Jack Schraub from Cal, Chon Gallegos and nine other guys from San Jose State; Bob Conrad, John Guillory, John Read and C. B. Simons from Stanford; Gary Filizetti (who later founded DevCon) from Santa Clara. Almost every player was in their early '20s. No one wanted to see them. Put a "Michigan" jersey on, and 110k want to see them.