[chrisk]

11. I'm thrilled Karty got to kick the end of game field goal. That's the longest field goal made in college football all season by five yards. Wow wow wow wow wow a million times. And it wasn't even a good snap. Coupled with his perfect kicking record this season, he's absolutely a viable Groza candidate, though I'd bet on Moody repeating or maybe Dunn getting it. But with a big game against BYU, Karty has a very real shot. Let's play for that. Elsewhere on special teams, Sanborn had net punts of 37 (to the 45), 53 (to the 14), 29 (to the 17), 36 (to the 12), 29 (to the 37), 30 (to the Stanford 47), 48 (to he 27), and 46 (to the 17). Again very active and solid, but I think he's had way to many punts between the 10 and 20 to consider this a good season. Just not a weapon and I think we can do better. Tremayne, who has been a massive disappointment at receiver, had a great coverage play. It brings me no pleasure to say this about my favorite walk-on in recent years, but Thompson has the worst ball security I've ever seen. Beyond bizarre to muff it every six times you touch the ball. Completely unplayable. Burning a redshirt for somebody to handle the ball like this sure is a decision, though also an indication of how injuries hobbled us at both running back and the return game.

12. Game balls: Leigber, Moi (PFF did not agree but will trust my eyes/box score), Karty, Gould

13. We're almost there, one more week of the nightmare. But for those of us who are year-round diehards it's not really the end of the nightmare unless Shaw goes. We had just as much of a nightmare last year. In some ways it was even worse. And yet we are where we are. There can be no hope for Stanford football until this regime is gone. I hate that we're going to have another game in which losing to a mediocre or worse team is actually a relief because it increases the odds of the nightmare ending. DSMG. Now.

In 60 years of paying obsessive attention to Indian/Cardinal football starting even before my first Big Game in 1962, as a schoolboy usher at Memorial Stadium, I have never known such a competitively weak, thin, mistake-prone, hapless, hopeless, inept, woefully coached, outgunned and out-manned Stanford outfit as the one taking the field these days. It isn't crap football so much as Keystone Kops football. Laurel and Hardy slapstick. Lucy-holding-the-ball-for-Charlie Brown football (no offense to Joshua Karty, the lotus flower in all this mud). It is pie-in-the-face football. Moe, Curly, Larry football. This is NOT Stanford football, it's Disco 1970s -'80s Northwestern Mildcat football. A Larry David comedy. Who woulda thunk it was produced and directed by the same guy who almost made us feel like we were January regulars? The irony in this reversal of fortune is right outta Shakespeare. And now sinking into Greek tragedy.

I was thinking of a one or two line witty comment, but why? This sums it up perfectly.

Stanford is still ahead of 2022 Northwestern football, let alone the late 70s-80s version.
Northwestern (or possibly Duke) are the most comparable universities to Stanford. in the Power 5. Have any of those 3 schools fully embraced the current trends in the Power 5.

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

[chrisk]

11. I'm thrilled Karty got to kick the end of game field goal. That's the longest field goal made in college football all season by five yards. Wow wow wow wow wow a million times. And it wasn't even a good snap. Coupled with his perfect kicking record this season, he's absolutely a viable Groza candidate, though I'd bet on Moody repeating or maybe Dunn getting it. But with a big game against BYU, Karty has a very real shot. Let's play for that. Elsewhere on special teams, Sanborn had net punts of 37 (to the 45), 53 (to the 14), 29 (to the 17), 36 (to the 12), 29 (to the 37), 30 (to the Stanford 47), 48 (to he 27), and 46 (to the 17). Again very active and solid, but I think he's had way to many punts between the 10 and 20 to consider this a good season. Just not a weapon and I think we can do better. Tremayne, who has been a massive disappointment at receiver, had a great coverage play. It brings me no pleasure to say this about my favorite walk-on in recent years, but Thompson has the worst ball security I've ever seen. Beyond bizarre to muff it every six times you touch the ball. Completely unplayable. Burning a redshirt for somebody to handle the ball like this sure is a decision, though also an indication of how injuries hobbled us at both running back and the return game.

12. Game balls: Leigber, Moi (PFF did not agree but will trust my eyes/box score), Karty, Gould

13. We're almost there, one more week of the nightmare. But for those of us who are year-round diehards it's not really the end of the nightmare unless Shaw goes. We had just as much of a nightmare last year. In some ways it was even worse. And yet we are where we are. There can be no hope for Stanford football until this regime is gone. I hate that we're going to have another game in which losing to a mediocre or worse team is actually a relief because it increases the odds of the nightmare ending. DSMG. Now.

In 60 years of paying obsessive attention to Indian/Cardinal football starting even before my first Big Game in 1962, as a schoolboy usher at Memorial Stadium, I have never known such a competitively weak, thin, mistake-prone, hapless, hopeless, inept, woefully coached, outgunned and out-manned Stanford outfit as the one taking the field these days. It isn't crap football so much as Keystone Kops football. Laurel and Hardy slapstick. Lucy-holding-the-ball-for-Charlie Brown football (no offense to Joshua Karty, the lotus flower in all this mud). It is pie-in-the-face football. Moe, Curly, Larry football. This is NOT Stanford football, it's Disco 1970s -'80s Northwestern Mildcat football. A Larry David comedy. Who woulda thunk it was produced and directed by the same guy who almost made us feel like we were January regulars? The irony in this reversal of fortune is right outta Shakespeare. And now sinking into Greek tragedy.

I was thinking of a one or two line witty comment, but why? This sums it up perfectly.

Stanford is still ahead of 2022 Northwestern football, let alone the late 70s-80s version.
Northwestern (or possibly Duke) are the most comparable universities to Stanford. in the Power 5. Have any of those 3 schools fully embraced the current trends in the Power 5.

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

[winflop]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

[winflop]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

[lex24]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. What a coach does on the field is his job. Getting support from Admin increases what the coach can do off the field. Recruiting being no one. And recruiting these days doesn’t end with LOI day. Portal changed that. Dramatically.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin. Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help. Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to. Chicken and egg.

[lex24]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. What a coach does on the field is his job. Getting support from Admin increases what the coach can do off the field. Recruiting being no one. And recruiting these days doesn’t end with LOI day. Portal changed that. Dramatically.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin. Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help. Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to. Chicken and egg.

[GK3]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. Chances of winning without it drop.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin.  Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help.  Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to.  Chicken and egg.

Right on, Lex - If anyone on this board really knows the thinking of the BoT, the President and Provost as to the future of the football program, I don't think they are talking on this board. Our academic standards, current transfer rules, and probable lesser NIL deals probably makes us less attractive as a coaching stop and a place to play for the really good guys coming out of high school.  But maybe all that will change, but who really knows at this point.  It would really be nice to put this all behind us and figure out how to support whatever comes next.

[GK3]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. Chances of winning without it drop.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin.  Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help.  Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to.  Chicken and egg.

Right on, Lex - If anyone on this board really knows the thinking of the BoT, the President and Provost as to the future of the football program, I don't think they are talking on this board. Our academic standards, current transfer rules, and probable lesser NIL deals probably makes us less attractive as a coaching stop and a place to play for the really good guys coming out of high school.  But maybe all that will change, but who really knows at this point.  It would really be nice to put this all behind us and figure out how to support whatever comes next.

[gailtate]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. Chances of winning without it drop.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin.  Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help.  Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to.  Chicken and egg.

Right on, Lex - If anyone on this board really knows the thinking of the BoT, the President and Provost as to the future of the football program, I don't think they are talking on this board. Our academic standards, current transfer rules, and probable lesser NIL deals probably makes us less attractive as a coaching stop and a place to play for the really good guys coming out of high school.  But maybe all that will change, but who really knows at this point.  It would really be nice to put this all behind us and figure out how to support whatever comes next.

At this moment, I can't imagine any less attractive coaching jobs in the eyes of hot, up-and-coming HCs and assistants than this one. As for players with the talent that could put Stanford into contention, even just once in a while, how many of them dream of playing for a .500 team (in a good year) and a going to a third-tier bowl maybe once while you're here? Stanford has those guys right now. However, I can imagine Stanford being one of those places -- but only if it gathers the steam for a return to "the glory" of .500. This university has some grave decisions to take, like, right NOW. I'm curious to see where the buck stops on on this one but not counting on finding out.

[gailtate]

How can Stanford recruit a new coach until it has a strategy for football going forward?
What competent coach would accept the job without a roadmap from the administration?

Stanford should hire a coach who has a strategy for football going forward, not someone who's going to execute a roadmap from on high from a bunch of @$$clowns who don't know the first thing about football much less college athletics. I also think there are many coaches who would jump at the chance. Look at what coaching Stanford has done for the ones over the last 25 years who have been successful:
- Willingham went on to coach ND. No he didn't do well there, but his success here led to that opportunity
- Green went to the NFL and had mixed results. But again, his success here led to that opportunity
- Harbaugh took the Niners to a Super Bowl, resurrected Michigan from mediocrity, and is on cusp of making the playoffs
- I hope Shaw goes on to have success elsewhere, and that it begins on Nov 27

Landscape has changed. One way portal and NIL are massive factors.  Agree with Chrisk, and I’ve said it before, first thing I’d question and research if asked to interview is what, if any, administrative support I’d have.  Harbaugh certainly had support  under Bowlsby.  Going forward with Muir?  Who knows. 

Asking for administrative support has nothing to do with “executing a roadmap” from assclowns or anyone else. Chances of winning without it drop.

I’d be very curious to know, from anyone on this board with true knowledge on the subject, what can be expected from Admin.  Somehow being able to bring players in through the portal would help.  Course you also need to run a program that players want to come to.  Chicken and egg.

Right on, Lex - If anyone on this board really knows the thinking of the BoT, the President and Provost as to the future of the football program, I don't think they are talking on this board. Our academic standards, current transfer rules, and probable lesser NIL deals probably makes us less attractive as a coaching stop and a place to play for the really good guys coming out of high school.  But maybe all that will change, but who really knows at this point.  It would really be nice to put this all behind us and figure out how to support whatever comes next.

At this moment, I can't imagine any less attractive coaching jobs in the eyes of hot, up-and-coming HCs and assistants than this one. As for players with the talent that could put Stanford into contention, even just once in a while, how many of them dream of playing for a .500 team (in a good year) and a going to a third-tier bowl maybe once while you're here? Stanford has those guys right now. However, I can imagine Stanford being one of those places -- but only if it gathers the steam for a return to "the glory" of .500. This university has some grave decisions to take, like, right NOW. I'm curious to see where the buck stops on on this one but not counting on finding out.