[BosCard]

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thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

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If that same game was re-played, reffed the exact same way, and each team took the same shots, we typically win by a wide margin. As others have mentioned, Hannah was really off.  Many of her 3 point attemps were wide open. There's 6-12 points right there. They also banked in 2 threes and Daniels hit one from the right wing that somehow went in even though the height of the shot was never above the rim :> Everything went right for them and nothing really went right for us. But we had Cam and they didn't. 

Kiki committed some dumb fouls. All but one of them were obvious. It's the same story, we need Kiki and Cam to stay on the court - we were +22 with Kiki on the court. Our guards just aren't consistent enough shooters. If they have an off night, we can be beaten by teams like UW.

Kudos to Courtney Ogden. Those 11 points were big. As 81 has mentioned, she could be a big difference maker down the stretch now that she's healthy. 

Very happy the team found a way to win this one. Go Card!

Ogden does something that no one else on the team does which is take and make the dribble pull up jumper.   Watkins from USC destroyed us with that shot.  It’s not the highest percentage but good defenses will take away the interior,  pressure/contest 3’s and take away passing angles.   In the tournament, we will need someone to drive against tight perimeter defense and hit the pull up jumper

[BosCard]

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thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

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If that same game was re-played, reffed the exact same way, and each team took the same shots, we typically win by a wide margin. As others have mentioned, Hannah was really off.  Many of her 3 point attemps were wide open. There's 6-12 points right there. They also banked in 2 threes and Daniels hit one from the right wing that somehow went in even though the height of the shot was never above the rim :> Everything went right for them and nothing really went right for us. But we had Cam and they didn't. 

Kiki committed some dumb fouls. All but one of them were obvious. It's the same story, we need Kiki and Cam to stay on the court - we were +22 with Kiki on the court. Our guards just aren't consistent enough shooters. If they have an off night, we can be beaten by teams like UW.

Kudos to Courtney Ogden. Those 11 points were big. As 81 has mentioned, she could be a big difference maker down the stretch now that she's healthy. 

Very happy the team found a way to win this one. Go Card!

Ogden does something that no one else on the team does which is take and make the dribble pull up jumper.   Watkins from USC destroyed us with that shot.  It’s not the highest percentage but good defenses will take away the interior,  pressure/contest 3’s and take away passing angles.   In the tournament, we will need someone to drive against tight perimeter defense and hit the pull up jumper

[CompSci87]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

[CompSci87]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

[MV72018]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

[MV72018]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

[BillBradley]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

Yes, I think that's right. Good clarification.

[BillBradley]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

Yes, I think that's right. Good clarification.

[Bampa]

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

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[Bampa]

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

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[TheFarm07]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

And this isn't new, for the last few seasons, we've had trouble inbounding the ball in late-game, close score situations. Our national title wouldn't have been if Aliyah Bosron didn't miss the easy putback when South Carolina stole the ball at the end of the national semis.

[TheFarm07]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

And this isn't new, for the last few seasons, we've had trouble inbounding the ball in late-game, close score situations. Our national title wouldn't have been if Aliyah Bosron didn't miss the easy putback when South Carolina stole the ball at the end of the national semis.

[old spanish trail]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

And this isn't new, for the last few seasons, we've had trouble inbounding the ball in late-game, close score situations. Our national title wouldn't have been if Aliyah Bosron didn't miss the easy putback when South Carolina stole the ball at the end of the national semis.

Yep, remember how many times Haley couldn't enter the ball from the sideline in 1992 and 93. I remember some opponent said we always run the same inbound plays. It's always been the biggest achilles heel in Tara's coaching, imo

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thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

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If that same game was re-played, reffed the exact same way, and each team took the same shots, we typically win by a wide margin. As others have mentioned, Hannah was really off.  Many of her 3 point attemps were wide open. There's 6-12 points right there. They also banked in 2 threes and Daniels hit one from the right wing that somehow went in even though the height of the shot was never above the rim :> Everything went right for them and nothing really went right for us. But we had Cam and they didn't. 

Kiki committed some dumb fouls. All but one of them were obvious. It's the same story, we need Kiki and Cam to stay on the court - we were +22 with Kiki on the court. Our guards just aren't consistent enough shooters. If they have an off night, we can be beaten by teams like UW.

Kudos to Courtney Ogden. Those 11 points were big. As 81 has mentioned, she could be a big difference maker down the stretch now that she's healthy. 

Very happy the team found a way to win this one. Go Card!

Ogden does something that no one else on the team does which is take and make the dribble pull up jumper.   Watkins from USC destroyed us with that shot.  It’s not the highest percentage but good defenses will take away the interior,  pressure/contest 3’s and take away passing angles.   In the tournament, we will need someone to drive against tight perimeter defense and hit the pull up jumper

Agree totally, 81, re Ogden's pull up jumper. Kiki has an excellent mid range jumper, but not the dribble pull up. It wouldn't surprise me if she and Agara come back next year with one. I've always been surprised Jump hasn't perfected the pull up. It would be great if Demetre could do it, but I'm afraid her dribble is too high.

[old spanish trail]

7-0 run in 27 seconds for Washington. We couldn’t get the ball inbounded over and over. Why is Brooke taking it out every time.

Yes, ridiculous.

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

And this isn't new, for the last few seasons, we've had trouble inbounding the ball in late-game, close score situations. Our national title wouldn't have been if Aliyah Bosron didn't miss the easy putback when South Carolina stole the ball at the end of the national semis.

Yep, remember how many times Haley couldn't enter the ball from the sideline in 1992 and 93. I remember some opponent said we always run the same inbound plays. It's always been the biggest achilles heel in Tara's coaching, imo

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1707589695[/url]']

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thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

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If that same game was re-played, reffed the exact same way, and each team took the same shots, we typically win by a wide margin. As others have mentioned, Hannah was really off.  Many of her 3 point attemps were wide open. There's 6-12 points right there. They also banked in 2 threes and Daniels hit one from the right wing that somehow went in even though the height of the shot was never above the rim :> Everything went right for them and nothing really went right for us. But we had Cam and they didn't. 

Kiki committed some dumb fouls. All but one of them were obvious. It's the same story, we need Kiki and Cam to stay on the court - we were +22 with Kiki on the court. Our guards just aren't consistent enough shooters. If they have an off night, we can be beaten by teams like UW.

Kudos to Courtney Ogden. Those 11 points were big. As 81 has mentioned, she could be a big difference maker down the stretch now that she's healthy. 

Very happy the team found a way to win this one. Go Card!

Ogden does something that no one else on the team does which is take and make the dribble pull up jumper.   Watkins from USC destroyed us with that shot.  It’s not the highest percentage but good defenses will take away the interior,  pressure/contest 3’s and take away passing angles.   In the tournament, we will need someone to drive against tight perimeter defense and hit the pull up jumper

Agree totally, 81, re Ogden's pull up jumper. Kiki has an excellent mid range jumper, but not the dribble pull up. It wouldn't surprise me if she and Agara come back next year with one. I've always been surprised Jump hasn't perfected the pull up. It would be great if Demetre could do it, but I'm afraid her dribble is too high.

[M T]

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

I presume Demetre is the one they practice this with.  She's tall so she can look over the top of smaller defenders.

End of regulation, in detail.
2:01 50-43 Lepolo sinks an inside-out, wide open 3ptr.
1:54 UW Timeout
1:49 Ogden is bowled over by UW#14 Daniels, no call.
1:48 UW#14 saves the overpass
1:46 The refs rule the ball touches Lepolo on the way out of  bounds
1:39 UW 3FGA. Stanford has 3 rebounders but a bad miss means a long rebound to UW.
1:28 UW pass deep into the lane, Jump & Brink double the player, leaving an unguarded player on the 3pt line
1:26 UW 3FGA, Stanford has 4 rebounders
1:24 Iriafen gets a contested rebound but is sliding on her back and is called for a travel. Shot clock set to 30
1:22 UW inbounds.
1:01 After good Stanford defense, UW makes an unforced TO by throwing the ball to the out-of-bounds.
1:01 Stanford inbounds in the back court to Lepolo under full court pressure.
0:55.9 Lepolo is fouled just as she passes into the forecourt.
0:55.9 Inbounds pass is to a breaking Jump, who had gotten separation.  However, Iriafen, who had broken earlier (and on previous inbounds) was coming back toward the inbounder.  Her player intercepts.
0:53 Ogden jumps the UW pass, but the intended receiver pulls Ogden's left arm so she can't control the ball.
0:48 Stanford scrambles to get in position defensively and does so.
0:41.4 50-46 UW #1 is on 3pt line with Brink sloughed off.  She gets the ball and hits a 3.
0:41.4 From near half-court, Demetre inbounds to Iriafen (no problem).
0:35.6 Lepolo and Demetre cause a traffic jam at Iriafen who gets triple teamed, leading to a tie ball. Stanford possession
0:34.2 From near half-court Demetre inbounds (with some difficulty) to Brink near the half court line.  Brink tries dribbling out of it (maybe not the best idea) and gets fouled.
0:32.8 From the sidelines, Demetre inbounds to Iriafen (who broke from the elbow) on the sideline.  She gets tied up. UW possession.
(Words were spoken, noticeably by Iriafen.  Tara comes down barking at Iriafen.)
0:32.8 UW inbounds in the back court - NO pressure by Stanford to slow them down.  Indeed, Ogden and Iriafen are the two who are guarding the two bringing the ball down.  ??
0:24 UW misses a step-back 3FGA.  Brink was pressuring the shooter. No one from either team was in the lane.  By the time the shoot comes down, 3 Stanford and 2 UW players are in the key.
0:22.7 Jump's player gets the rebound and Jump is whistled for a foul.  Washington is in the bonus, so she gets FTA
0:22.7 50-47 Second FT was made.  Stanford Timeout
0:22.7 From the sidelines, Demetre inbounds easily to Brink, who is fouled.  Rather than hugging the ball waiting for a foul, she could have thrown it to a wide open Jump (not for a shot, but to use clock)
0:21.3 From the sidelines, Demetre has trouble inbounding.  Brink was open briefly, but Demetre was looking for Iriafen who wasn't open until she reversed, but a throw to her wouldn't work because of the defender on Demetre.  She makes a lob pass to Lepolo who is guarded.  The ball is tipped and UW gets to it.
0:15.5 50-50 A banked 3 pointer goes in.
0:15.5 Inbounding from the sideline, Demetre gets it to Lepolo near the sideline.  Lepolo makes no improvement of position as Stanford has no one on the right half of the court.  Pass to Iriafen on the right elbow with 3.4 seconds left.  Iriafen gets a clean shot off.  We crash 3 rebounders but UW got the rebound as time ended.  Washington did have a timeout left, so an earlier shot might have let them call a timeout.

I saw no real issue on Demeter's inbounding, except maybe the lob should have been deeper (not to Lepolo but over her).   There were some issues in players being unable to get open (for instance, Iriafen was guarded by a smaller, faster player).  The traffic jam that led to a tie ball was questionable but that was after the inbounds.  Against smaller players, maybe Brink can hold the ball over her head rather than hugging it, which then allows her to pass it.
UW hustled and benefited from long rebounds, but Stanford was in position.  Stanford seemed to expect UW to foul and never got into an offense - only one shot in two minutes.

Stanford seemed to expect UW to foul, and therefore had almost no offense in the last 2 minutes

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It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

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[M T]

It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

I presume Demetre is the one they practice this with.  She's tall so she can look over the top of smaller defenders.

End of regulation, in detail.
2:01 50-43 Lepolo sinks an inside-out, wide open 3ptr.
1:54 UW Timeout
1:49 Ogden is bowled over by UW#14 Daniels, no call.
1:48 UW#14 saves the overpass
1:46 The refs rule the ball touches Lepolo on the way out of  bounds
1:39 UW 3FGA. Stanford has 3 rebounders but a bad miss means a long rebound to UW.
1:28 UW pass deep into the lane, Jump & Brink double the player, leaving an unguarded player on the 3pt line
1:26 UW 3FGA, Stanford has 4 rebounders
1:24 Iriafen gets a contested rebound but is sliding on her back and is called for a travel. Shot clock set to 30
1:22 UW inbounds.
1:01 After good Stanford defense, UW makes an unforced TO by throwing the ball to the out-of-bounds.
1:01 Stanford inbounds in the back court to Lepolo under full court pressure.
0:55.9 Lepolo is fouled just as she passes into the forecourt.
0:55.9 Inbounds pass is to a breaking Jump, who had gotten separation.  However, Iriafen, who had broken earlier (and on previous inbounds) was coming back toward the inbounder.  Her player intercepts.
0:53 Ogden jumps the UW pass, but the intended receiver pulls Ogden's left arm so she can't control the ball.
0:48 Stanford scrambles to get in position defensively and does so.
0:41.4 50-46 UW #1 is on 3pt line with Brink sloughed off.  She gets the ball and hits a 3.
0:41.4 From near half-court, Demetre inbounds to Iriafen (no problem).
0:35.6 Lepolo and Demetre cause a traffic jam at Iriafen who gets triple teamed, leading to a tie ball. Stanford possession
0:34.2 From near half-court Demetre inbounds (with some difficulty) to Brink near the half court line.  Brink tries dribbling out of it (maybe not the best idea) and gets fouled.
0:32.8 From the sidelines, Demetre inbounds to Iriafen (who broke from the elbow) on the sideline.  She gets tied up. UW possession.
(Words were spoken, noticeably by Iriafen.  Tara comes down barking at Iriafen.)
0:32.8 UW inbounds in the back court - NO pressure by Stanford to slow them down.  Indeed, Ogden and Iriafen are the two who are guarding the two bringing the ball down.  ??
0:24 UW misses a step-back 3FGA.  Brink was pressuring the shooter. No one from either team was in the lane.  By the time the shoot comes down, 3 Stanford and 2 UW players are in the key.
0:22.7 Jump's player gets the rebound and Jump is whistled for a foul.  Washington is in the bonus, so she gets FTA
0:22.7 50-47 Second FT was made.  Stanford Timeout
0:22.7 From the sidelines, Demetre inbounds easily to Brink, who is fouled.  Rather than hugging the ball waiting for a foul, she could have thrown it to a wide open Jump (not for a shot, but to use clock)
0:21.3 From the sidelines, Demetre has trouble inbounding.  Brink was open briefly, but Demetre was looking for Iriafen who wasn't open until she reversed, but a throw to her wouldn't work because of the defender on Demetre.  She makes a lob pass to Lepolo who is guarded.  The ball is tipped and UW gets to it.
0:15.5 50-50 A banked 3 pointer goes in.
0:15.5 Inbounding from the sideline, Demetre gets it to Lepolo near the sideline.  Lepolo makes no improvement of position as Stanford has no one on the right half of the court.  Pass to Iriafen on the right elbow with 3.4 seconds left.  Iriafen gets a clean shot off.  We crash 3 rebounders but UW got the rebound as time ended.  Washington did have a timeout left, so an earlier shot might have let them call a timeout.

I saw no real issue on Demeter's inbounding, except maybe the lob should have been deeper (not to Lepolo but over her).   There were some issues in players being unable to get open (for instance, Iriafen was guarded by a smaller, faster player).  The traffic jam that led to a tie ball was questionable but that was after the inbounds.  Against smaller players, maybe Brink can hold the ball over her head rather than hugging it, which then allows her to pass it.
UW hustled and benefited from long rebounds, but Stanford was in position.  Stanford seemed to expect UW to foul and never got into an offense - only one shot in two minutes.

Stanford seemed to expect UW to foul, and therefore had almost no offense in the last 2 minutes

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It was ridiculous, but the blame is on the COACHES, not the players, for not designing or calling for a clever inbounds play. Sheer negligence -- unless they were told exactly what to do and how and then failed to implement it. But blowing a three-possession lead in 27 seconds? This is the kind of scenario that well organized coaches simiulate over and over in practice over the season so everyone knows what to do and doesn't have to do something new for the first time in crunch time.

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[81alum]

Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQnf1UxRzVA&t=1s

Audio of press conference:

https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Women%27...B2.9.24%5D

[81alum]

Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQnf1UxRzVA&t=1s

Audio of press conference:

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[MiniBlueHawkCard]

First and foremost, figuring out how to successfully and repeatedly inbound the ball from the sideline would be a welcomed revelation. However, until that day comes why does Tara use her timeouts to advance the ball to the sideline? (This also allows teams to set up pressure.) I love that she saves timeouts all game but there is no requirement that you advance the ball when calling those timeouts at the end of the game (plus, I would rather timeouts be used to bail on a failed play then throw the ball up for grabs). While advancing the ball essentially eliminates a 10 second violation, a 10 second violation would be an improvement at this rate.....

[MiniBlueHawkCard]

First and foremost, figuring out how to successfully and repeatedly inbound the ball from the sideline would be a welcomed revelation. However, until that day comes why does Tara use her timeouts to advance the ball to the sideline? (This also allows teams to set up pressure.) I love that she saves timeouts all game but there is no requirement that you advance the ball when calling those timeouts at the end of the game (plus, I would rather timeouts be used to bail on a failed play then throw the ball up for grabs). While advancing the ball essentially eliminates a 10 second violation, a 10 second violation would be an improvement at this rate.....

[jonnyss]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

Yes, I think that's right. Good clarification.

 

well, yes, that's how i understand the rules, too. i wasn't clear above: i said brooke was on the sideline. i meant on the sideline well outside that trapezoid. i thought the refs missed 2 fouls on that play and placed the ball incorrectly...but maybe not. as others have pointed out, it's hard to get the recording to play the end of the game.

[jonnyss]

thanks for the explanation of no foul call. ok, then riddle me this: why did we get the ball out of bounds under the basket (not that i minded)? as i recall, brooke had the ball on the sideline with several defenders trying to steal or foul, and just before, cam was clobbered in the head near half-court.

Refs follow specific rules as to where the ball is inbounded (sideline or under the basket). It's based on where the foul is committed. I'm pretty sure they use an imaginary line that runs from the elbows to the corners.  if a foul is committed inside that trapezoid (below the free throw line), then the inbound position is under the basket. Otherwise, it's on the sideline.

Of course there was no foul called at all in this case -- the refs stopped play because Cam appeared injured and/or to review the contact on her a few seconds previously. But I suppose the same rules are followed for where to inbound from when resuming play, based on where the player who had possession when play was stopped was.

Yes, I think that's right. Good clarification.

 

well, yes, that's how i understand the rules, too. i wasn't clear above: i said brooke was on the sideline. i meant on the sideline well outside that trapezoid. i thought the refs missed 2 fouls on that play and placed the ball incorrectly...but maybe not. as others have pointed out, it's hard to get the recording to play the end of the game.