[82lsju]

some details on what's happening including

Stanford’s decision to distribute Alston payments comes after former President Marc Tessier-Lavigne and former provost Persis Drell stepped down last year. According to sources, this timing is no coincidence.

“Provost Drell had a very narrow view of the role of athletics at Stanford and was entirely unwilling to adapt that view to accommodate for the myriad of changes the industry has experienced in recent years, to the benefit of student-athletes,” [graduate student distance runner and former president of SAAC Liam] Anderson wrote to The Daily.

https://stanforddaily.com/2024/01/31/als...an-31-2024

[82lsju]

some details on what's happening including

Stanford’s decision to distribute Alston payments comes after former President Marc Tessier-Lavigne and former provost Persis Drell stepped down last year. According to sources, this timing is no coincidence.

“Provost Drell had a very narrow view of the role of athletics at Stanford and was entirely unwilling to adapt that view to accommodate for the myriad of changes the industry has experienced in recent years, to the benefit of student-athletes,” [graduate student distance runner and former president of SAAC Liam] Anderson wrote to The Daily.

https://stanforddaily.com/2024/01/31/als...an-31-2024

[OCcardinal]

About 10% of Stanford undergrads participate in varsity sports.  That's like taking a "narrow view" of the role of the Computer Science department at Stanford.

[OCcardinal]

About 10% of Stanford undergrads participate in varsity sports.  That's like taking a "narrow view" of the role of the Computer Science department at Stanford.

[newguy]

About 10% of Stanford undergrads participate in varsity sports.  That's like taking a "narrow view" of the role of the Computer Science department at Stanford.

true.
but this is Persis Drell we're talking about.

[newguy]

About 10% of Stanford undergrads participate in varsity sports.  That's like taking a "narrow view" of the role of the Computer Science department at Stanford.

true.
but this is Persis Drell we're talking about.

[BobK]

About 12%. Yes Drell. Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

[BobK]

About 12%. Yes Drell. Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

[M T]

Wow, y’all nake it sound like Stanford stident-athletes have been peasants, struggling to find daily gruel.  And here I thought they were getting pretty much every advantage ( food, housing, coaching, tutoring), even better than the 7x as many non-athletes

[M T]

Wow, y’all nake it sound like Stanford stident-athletes have been peasants, struggling to find daily gruel.  And here I thought they were getting pretty much every advantage ( food, housing, coaching, tutoring), even better than the 7x as many non-athletes

[Mick]

About 12%.  Yes Drell.  Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

15% of the undergraduates at the Stanford of the East participate in a varsity sport...and here's an article on the "Professionalization of Ivy League Sports." It's from 2019. Imagine what that article would look like today...

The Professionalization of Ivy League Sports | Harvard Magazine

Here's the percentages by Ivy League schools, Stanford, a few other top "academic" universities and the military academies:

Dartmouth  21%
Princeton    20%
Yale           16%
Harvard     15%
Brown       14%
Columbia    10%
Penn            9%
Cornell        8%

Stanford        12%
Navy             26%
MIT              15%
Cal Tech        14%
Army             22%
Amherst         32%
Air Force        16%


Source Data: Chances of playing sports at Ivy League Schools | Scholarship Stats.com

[Mick]

About 12%.  Yes Drell.  Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

15% of the undergraduates at the Stanford of the East participate in a varsity sport...and here's an article on the "Professionalization of Ivy League Sports." It's from 2019. Imagine what that article would look like today...

The Professionalization of Ivy League Sports | Harvard Magazine

Here's the percentages by Ivy League schools, Stanford, a few other top "academic" universities and the military academies:

Dartmouth  21%
Princeton    20%
Yale           16%
Harvard     15%
Brown       14%
Columbia    10%
Penn            9%
Cornell        8%

Stanford        12%
Navy             26%
MIT              15%
Cal Tech        14%
Army             22%
Amherst         32%
Air Force        16%


Source Data: Chances of playing sports at Ivy League Schools | Scholarship Stats.com

[TrumpCard]

About 12%.  Yes Drell.  Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

15% of the undergraduates at the Stanford of the East participate in a varsity sport...and here's an article on the "Professionalization of Ivy League Sports." It's from 2019. Imagine what that article would look like today...

The Professionalization of Ivy League Sports | Harvard Magazine

Here's the percentages by Ivy League schools, Stanford, a few other top "academic" universities and the military academies:

Dartmouth  21%
Princeton    20%
Yale           16%
Harvard     15%
Brown       14%
Columbia    10%
Penn            9%
Cornell        8%

Stanford        12%
Navy             26%
MIT              15%
Cal Tech        14%
Army             22%
Amherst         32%
Air Force        16%


Source Data: Chances of playing sports at Ivy League Schools | Scholarship Stats.com

This data is interesting to me for a few reasons.  

First, this brings home just how important sports are in American life and culture.  At the top 20 private schools in the country, like 1 in 7 kids is a varsity athlete.  People who want to get on the fast track to success in life should consider competitive sports.  

Second, if you compare this data to what I imagine is the data at big state schools, the percentage of varsity athletes is much higher at these small private schools and military academies.  The number of varsity athletes may be similar, but the student body is much bigger at the state schools.  Do state schools have a much smaller percentage of students who played sports in high school?  I doubt it.  Is there an outlet for that large population of HS athletes at big state schools to play competitive sports?  Are intramural sports really legit at big state schools?

Third, I clicked the link and looked at the rest of the data.  Although the percentage of varsity athletes is high throughout the Ivy League, it's like double or triple that percentage at some of the top liberal arts colleges.  Amherst, Williams, Hamilton, Colby, Bowdoin all over 30%.  I would not have guessed that, but I guess it makes sense because the student body at those schools is so small.

[TrumpCard]

About 12%.  Yes Drell.  Thankfully it’s a new administration and they care about athletes.

15% of the undergraduates at the Stanford of the East participate in a varsity sport...and here's an article on the "Professionalization of Ivy League Sports." It's from 2019. Imagine what that article would look like today...

The Professionalization of Ivy League Sports | Harvard Magazine

Here's the percentages by Ivy League schools, Stanford, a few other top "academic" universities and the military academies:

Dartmouth  21%
Princeton    20%
Yale           16%
Harvard     15%
Brown       14%
Columbia    10%
Penn            9%
Cornell        8%

Stanford        12%
Navy             26%
MIT              15%
Cal Tech        14%
Army             22%
Amherst         32%
Air Force        16%


Source Data: Chances of playing sports at Ivy League Schools | Scholarship Stats.com

This data is interesting to me for a few reasons.  

First, this brings home just how important sports are in American life and culture.  At the top 20 private schools in the country, like 1 in 7 kids is a varsity athlete.  People who want to get on the fast track to success in life should consider competitive sports.  

Second, if you compare this data to what I imagine is the data at big state schools, the percentage of varsity athletes is much higher at these small private schools and military academies.  The number of varsity athletes may be similar, but the student body is much bigger at the state schools.  Do state schools have a much smaller percentage of students who played sports in high school?  I doubt it.  Is there an outlet for that large population of HS athletes at big state schools to play competitive sports?  Are intramural sports really legit at big state schools?

Third, I clicked the link and looked at the rest of the data.  Although the percentage of varsity athletes is high throughout the Ivy League, it's like double or triple that percentage at some of the top liberal arts colleges.  Amherst, Williams, Hamilton, Colby, Bowdoin all over 30%.  I would not have guessed that, but I guess it makes sense because the student body at those schools is so small.

[VB Card]

Wow, y’all nake it sound like Stanford stident-athletes have been peasants, struggling to find daily gruel.  And here I thought they were getting pretty much every advantage ( food, housing, coaching, tutoring), even better than the 7x as many non-athletes

Athletes at Stanford do not get better housing than non-athletes. There is no athlete housing or preferential treatment. Remember, Stanford lost a football transfer signee last year because he moved into his Kimball dorm room and was upset that he had a random non-athlete roommate...

[VB Card]

Wow, y’all nake it sound like Stanford stident-athletes have been peasants, struggling to find daily gruel.  And here I thought they were getting pretty much every advantage ( food, housing, coaching, tutoring), even better than the 7x as many non-athletes

Athletes at Stanford do not get better housing than non-athletes. There is no athlete housing or preferential treatment. Remember, Stanford lost a football transfer signee last year because he moved into his Kimball dorm room and was upset that he had a random non-athlete roommate...

[dabigv13]

The athletes I knew at Stanford had preferential housing. I remember football players in grad housing. Freshman bball players somehow getting single rooms. Maybe it's changed in the last 20 years or maybe there is still preferences but maybe not to the degree some athletes may prefer.

[dabigv13]

The athletes I knew at Stanford had preferential housing. I remember football players in grad housing. Freshman bball players somehow getting single rooms. Maybe it's changed in the last 20 years or maybe there is still preferences but maybe not to the degree some athletes may prefer.