[gailtate]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

Sounds like an upstanding, exemplary young man. Something tells me his current behavior is consistent with prior episodes his whole life and that his coach(es) knew all about it. Aren't sports supposed build character?

[gailtate]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

Sounds like an upstanding, exemplary young man. Something tells me his current behavior is consistent with prior episodes his whole life and that his coach(es) knew all about it. Aren't sports supposed build character?

[martyup]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

I guess that woman needs to reassess where she draws the red line.  Maybe not getting into bed with a violent thug should come before trying to stop him from smoking weed.

[martyup]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

I guess that woman needs to reassess where she draws the red line.  Maybe not getting into bed with a violent thug should come before trying to stop him from smoking weed.

[gailtate]

Yep, whoever said Lamson running the ball on fourth and short was totally predictable must have convinced Louisville of it.

Except... the linebacker had Lamson dead to rights and had he taken even a fraction of a second longer, he would have been sacked, and Mosely was covered, though he had a step on his DB.  By the way, Sam Roush totally ran by his coverage and there was a pretty egregious hold by what looks like #11 (though that number is listed as a TE on Louisville's roster) who just grabs his pants.

BC

I missed that uncalled penalty.
Just add it to the list of bad refereeing in the game.
The targeting call on Franklin and the no-call on the very late (long after the whistle) MMA throwdown of Cole Tabb that injured him out of the game. Couple of worst calls/no calls this season.

I attended the Syracuse-Cal game last week and saw some of the most laughable, head-scratching officiating in recent memory. Did the ACC bring in Pac12 reject-refs? BTW, the 'Cuse tortured the weenies all day. Final score was not indicative at all.  I'm a Syracuse dad and I wanted a preview of the weenies (they're eminently beatable -- but probably not by Stanford this year).

[gailtate]

Yep, whoever said Lamson running the ball on fourth and short was totally predictable must have convinced Louisville of it.

Except... the linebacker had Lamson dead to rights and had he taken even a fraction of a second longer, he would have been sacked, and Mosely was covered, though he had a step on his DB.  By the way, Sam Roush totally ran by his coverage and there was a pretty egregious hold by what looks like #11 (though that number is listed as a TE on Louisville's roster) who just grabs his pants.

BC

I missed that uncalled penalty.
Just add it to the list of bad refereeing in the game.
The targeting call on Franklin and the no-call on the very late (long after the whistle) MMA throwdown of Cole Tabb that injured him out of the game. Couple of worst calls/no calls this season.

I attended the Syracuse-Cal game last week and saw some of the most laughable, head-scratching officiating in recent memory. Did the ACC bring in Pac12 reject-refs? BTW, the 'Cuse tortured the weenies all day. Final score was not indicative at all.  I'm a Syracuse dad and I wanted a preview of the weenies (they're eminently beatable -- but probably not by Stanford this year).

[msqueri]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

[msqueri]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

[needle]

TT said last week that Rogers had a chance to play, did he not?

[needle]

TT said last week that Rogers had a chance to play, did he not?

[SkiBum80]

Yep, whoever said Lamson running the ball on fourth and short was totally predictable must have convinced Louisville of it.

Except... the linebacker had Lamson dead to rights and had he taken even a fraction of a second longer, he would have been sacked, and Mosely was covered, though he had a step on his DB.  By the way, Sam Roush totally ran by his coverage and there was a pretty egregious hold by what looks like #11 (though that number is listed as a TE on Louisville's roster) who just grabs his pants.

BC

I missed that uncalled penalty.
Just add it to the list of bad refereeing in the game.
The targeting call on Franklin and the no-call on the very late (long after the whistle) MMA throwdown of Cole Tabb that injured him out of the game. Couple of worst calls/no calls this season.

I attended the Syracuse-Cal game last week and saw some of the most laughable, head-scratching officiating in recent memory. Did the ACC bring in Pac12 reject-refs? BTW, the 'Cuse tortured the weenies all day. Final score was not indicative at all.  I'm a Syracuse dad and I wanted a preview of the weenies (they're eminently beatable -- but probably not by Stanford this year).

Is heartwarming to hear the 'Cuse tortured the weenies. When we were both conference-less wanderers in a desolate landscape, I had an almost affectionate affinity for their wellbeing, and wishes for a safe landing spot. Now that we are both in the ACC and remain conference rivals, I'm back to the much more comfortable and familiar attitude of hoping they get battered and pummeled, especially by us this Sat.
While it was always a logical possibility that we could Beat Cal this Sat, after the Louisville miracle, I'm much more optimistic that we can Beat Cal. However, I will wait til putting in my pick into the CardBoard contest, you know the one that has highly valuable prizes awarded to the season winners, until I hear if Coach TT has anything significant to say about our gazillion injuries and if any of them will be back available to play this weekend, or if he's planning to throw jerseys onto any live body students he can find, even EE majors, just to fill out the roster (no offense to EE's of course).

[SkiBum80]

Yep, whoever said Lamson running the ball on fourth and short was totally predictable must have convinced Louisville of it.

Except... the linebacker had Lamson dead to rights and had he taken even a fraction of a second longer, he would have been sacked, and Mosely was covered, though he had a step on his DB.  By the way, Sam Roush totally ran by his coverage and there was a pretty egregious hold by what looks like #11 (though that number is listed as a TE on Louisville's roster) who just grabs his pants.

BC

I missed that uncalled penalty.
Just add it to the list of bad refereeing in the game.
The targeting call on Franklin and the no-call on the very late (long after the whistle) MMA throwdown of Cole Tabb that injured him out of the game. Couple of worst calls/no calls this season.

I attended the Syracuse-Cal game last week and saw some of the most laughable, head-scratching officiating in recent memory. Did the ACC bring in Pac12 reject-refs? BTW, the 'Cuse tortured the weenies all day. Final score was not indicative at all.  I'm a Syracuse dad and I wanted a preview of the weenies (they're eminently beatable -- but probably not by Stanford this year).

Is heartwarming to hear the 'Cuse tortured the weenies. When we were both conference-less wanderers in a desolate landscape, I had an almost affectionate affinity for their wellbeing, and wishes for a safe landing spot. Now that we are both in the ACC and remain conference rivals, I'm back to the much more comfortable and familiar attitude of hoping they get battered and pummeled, especially by us this Sat.
While it was always a logical possibility that we could Beat Cal this Sat, after the Louisville miracle, I'm much more optimistic that we can Beat Cal. However, I will wait til putting in my pick into the CardBoard contest, you know the one that has highly valuable prizes awarded to the season winners, until I hear if Coach TT has anything significant to say about our gazillion injuries and if any of them will be back available to play this weekend, or if he's planning to throw jerseys onto any live body students he can find, even EE majors, just to fill out the roster (no offense to EE's of course).

[CardinalSagehen]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a void in playing time on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

Regarding Sinclair:
I don't remember what he hurt vs. NC State - maybe it was a shoulder. He looked pretty spry in videos of the post-game celebration on Saturday (jumping around and waving both arms - a far cry from playing football, but still...) My guess is that he'll find a way to suit up for his last Big Game. 

RBs: 
It would be great if one of them can return, almost certainly not Tabb. At least we're in better shape than in 2022. Davis Jr. and Butler have actually been trained in the position.

Safety:
Speaking of emergency running backs, we should add Leigber to the list. He took a blow to the head on Louisville's TD run in the 4th quarter, went to the tent, and did not return. #18 Sumlin took his place.

Rogers:
Medical exemption? Even though none of us can quite figure it out because he started game 5 and played about a quarter? I think others noted that he did not appear in the Last Walk photo.

[CardinalSagehen]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a void in playing time on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

Regarding Sinclair:
I don't remember what he hurt vs. NC State - maybe it was a shoulder. He looked pretty spry in videos of the post-game celebration on Saturday (jumping around and waving both arms - a far cry from playing football, but still...) My guess is that he'll find a way to suit up for his last Big Game. 

RBs: 
It would be great if one of them can return, almost certainly not Tabb. At least we're in better shape than in 2022. Davis Jr. and Butler have actually been trained in the position.

Safety:
Speaking of emergency running backs, we should add Leigber to the list. He took a blow to the head on Louisville's TD run in the 4th quarter, went to the tent, and did not return. #18 Sumlin took his place.

Rogers:
Medical exemption? Even though none of us can quite figure it out because he started game 5 and played about a quarter? I think others noted that he did not appear in the Last Walk photo.

[SamuelMcF]

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a big void on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

That means Patterson is out of eligibility. He already redshirted, he can't do so again...unless he applies for a medical.

[SamuelMcF]

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a big void on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

That means Patterson is out of eligibility. He already redshirted, he can't do so again...unless he applies for a medical.

[CardinalSagehen]

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a big void on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

That means Patterson is out of eligibility. He already redshirted, he can't do so again...unless he applies for a medical.

Right, that's exactly what I'm saying. The normal criteria for a medical exemption also include participation in less than 30% (rounded up) of the regular season contests. Do you think a medical exemption can be approved in his case, assuming they present medical information suggesting a risk of returning to play?

My view on the decision to return to play is that it's never black-and-white.  A highly motivated player like Sinclair might take great risks to play in his last Big Game, against medical advice. A player that is motivated not to play might have enough air cover from doctor's notes to justify a medical hardship waiver.

I'm not knowledgeable on the topic, but I took a quick look at this NCAA doc:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/complia...rPoint.pdf

[CardinalSagehen]

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a big void on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

That means Patterson is out of eligibility. He already redshirted, he can't do so again...unless he applies for a medical.

Right, that's exactly what I'm saying. The normal criteria for a medical exemption also include participation in less than 30% (rounded up) of the regular season contests. Do you think a medical exemption can be approved in his case, assuming they present medical information suggesting a risk of returning to play?

My view on the decision to return to play is that it's never black-and-white.  A highly motivated player like Sinclair might take great risks to play in his last Big Game, against medical advice. A player that is motivated not to play might have enough air cover from doctor's notes to justify a medical hardship waiver.

I'm not knowledgeable on the topic, but I took a quick look at this NCAA doc:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/complia...rPoint.pdf

[qwerty49]

Dude obviously took out his frustrations on those around him....

https://247sports.com/college/louisville...240004867/

[qwerty49]

Dude obviously took out his frustrations on those around him....

https://247sports.com/college/louisville...240004867/

[Mick]

And with that Thermofluids mid-term on Monday. Tsk, tsk.

[Mick]

And with that Thermofluids mid-term on Monday. Tsk, tsk.

[newguy]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

perhaps he should check out the following article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger_management

[newguy]

Today in Sick Sad World:

 LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – University of Louisville sophomore defensive back Tayon Holloway was arrested Sunday on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic assault, according to court records.

Holloway, 20, allegedly attacked a woman when she tried to stop him from smoking marijuana at about 9 p.m. Sunday night, according to a police report.

Police claim Holloway threw the woman off the bed and struck her in the face with his fists. When she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow over her face, smothering her for about 10 seconds before attempting to throw her out of the room, according to police.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-foo...c8455.html

This is the kid who committed the personal foul putting Stanford in field goal range to end the game. I don't feel sorry for him at all, but I am curious how he was treated by coaches and teammates after the game ended. Regardless, I hope he gets kicked off the team.

perhaps he should check out the following article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger_management

[JJJ]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a void in playing time on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

Regarding Sinclair:
I don't remember what he hurt vs. NC State - maybe it was a shoulder. He looked pretty spry in videos of the post-game celebration on Saturday (jumping around and waving both arms - a far cry from playing football, but still...) My guess is that he'll find a way to suit up for his last Big Game. 

RBs: 
It would be great if one of them can return, almost certainly not Tabb. At least we're in better shape than in 2022. Davis Jr. and Butler have actually been trained in the position.

Safety:
Speaking of emergency running backs, we should add Leigber to the list. He took a blow to the head on Louisville's TD run in the 4th quarter, went to the tent, and did not return. #18 Sumlin took his place.

Rogers:
Medical exemption? Even though none of us can quite figure it out because he started game 5 and played about a quarter? I think others noted that he did not appear in the Last Walk photo.

A little birdie told me that Tristan Sinclair is good to go for Big Game.

[JJJ]

1732032407[/url]']
I'll be very interested to hear how much and what exactly Coach TT says about injuries in his pre-Cal presser.
Of course I know he is reticent to say much about it, for competitive game-planning purposes.
But he has in the past sometimes been willing to comment on guys as being unavailable or unlikely or possible or day-to-day or something other.
Secondary, RB's, LB, almost every position seems to have somebody(s) down.

He has a practiced generic non-answer but will be honest when asked specifically about individuals. Reporters need to not ask how health is and instead do rapid fire on whether Wright, Sinclair, Ford, Tabb, Irvin, and Patterson will be available.

Regarding Patterson:
I'm speculating here, but I think they might seek a medical exemption. He redshirted one year (2019), played 3 years (2021-2023), and participated in four games this season (if memory serves). There's a strong incentive for him not to attempt to return if he wants to play another year at Stanford. This would give him time to finish a graduate degree and would fill a void in playing time on the interior DL with Phillips leaving and no big bodies in the pipeline.

Regarding Sinclair:
I don't remember what he hurt vs. NC State - maybe it was a shoulder. He looked pretty spry in videos of the post-game celebration on Saturday (jumping around and waving both arms - a far cry from playing football, but still...) My guess is that he'll find a way to suit up for his last Big Game. 

RBs: 
It would be great if one of them can return, almost certainly not Tabb. At least we're in better shape than in 2022. Davis Jr. and Butler have actually been trained in the position.

Safety:
Speaking of emergency running backs, we should add Leigber to the list. He took a blow to the head on Louisville's TD run in the 4th quarter, went to the tent, and did not return. #18 Sumlin took his place.

Rogers:
Medical exemption? Even though none of us can quite figure it out because he started game 5 and played about a quarter? I think others noted that he did not appear in the Last Walk photo.

A little birdie told me that Tristan Sinclair is good to go for Big Game.

[chrisk]

Dude obviously took out his frustrations on those around him....

https://247sports.com/college/louisville...240004867/

The return to Louisville was delayed a day by crew issues with their charter.

[chrisk]

Dude obviously took out his frustrations on those around him....

https://247sports.com/college/louisville...240004867/

The return to Louisville was delayed a day by crew issues with their charter.

[fullmetal]

The return to Louisville was delayed a day by crew issues with their charter.

Ha, well looks like some ACC schools get to feel our pain too.

Regarding Patterson, he might have the option to take two years for his post-bac program, so that would be nice.

Terrible to hear about the woman who was assaulted by the Louisville football player.  I hope the justice system there gives her a measure of solace and safety.

[fullmetal]

The return to Louisville was delayed a day by crew issues with their charter.

Ha, well looks like some ACC schools get to feel our pain too.

Regarding Patterson, he might have the option to take two years for his post-bac program, so that would be nice.

Terrible to hear about the woman who was assaulted by the Louisville football player.  I hope the justice system there gives her a measure of solace and safety.