12-17-2013, 10:26 PM
Interesting case here: http://www.ruleoftree.com/2013/12/17/522...ry-problem
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Do Dawkins's teams feature a disproportionate number of injuries?
Do Dawkins's teams feature a disproportionate number of injuries?
12-18-2013, 12:30 AM
This has caught my attention too.
Upon reading the article I am convinced that JD flat out just does not get it.
Upon reading the article I am convinced that JD flat out just does not get it.
"We should all be better." --- Bill Walton, UCLA telecast, Feb. 16, 2013
This has caught my attention too.
Upon reading the article I am convinced that JD flat out just does not get it.
Upon reading the article I am convinced that JD flat out just does not get it.
"We should all be better." --- Bill Walton, UCLA telecast, Feb. 16, 2013
12-18-2013, 12:51 AM
Interesting...Â
Waiting to see Mr. Jacobson's analysis of the women's team and Tara...
Waiting to see Mr. Jacobson's analysis of the women's team and Tara...
I thought that the article was dumb (and I am no Dawkins fan). The sample size for comparing injuries under Dawkins to injuries under previous coaches is way too small to draw any conclusions about JD's training program. My recollection is that we had a lot of injuries under Monty, too. Of course, Monty was successful, so the blame for those injuries fell upon the bouncy floor. Now, we have an unsuccessful coach and a less bouncy floor, so it's suddenly Dawkins' fault? And how exactly does the author know that Randle was gassed from practicing too hard? This is a lot of rampant speculation with zero evidence.Â
As for the impact of injuries, we'll miss the 3-point shooting of Gage and Bright, but neither are great on defense, which is our big weakness. Sanders and Allen were not major contributors last year. Having Brown would've helped last year, but I doubt that he would've made us a Tourney team. Blame Dawkins all you want for the team's poor performance, but injuries just happen sometimes.
(By the way, MBB has a big game at #10 UConn tonight on ESPN)
As for the impact of injuries, we'll miss the 3-point shooting of Gage and Bright, but neither are great on defense, which is our big weakness. Sanders and Allen were not major contributors last year. Having Brown would've helped last year, but I doubt that he would've made us a Tourney team. Blame Dawkins all you want for the team's poor performance, but injuries just happen sometimes.
(By the way, MBB has a big game at #10 UConn tonight on ESPN)
I thought that the article was dumb (and I am no Dawkins fan). The sample size for comparing injuries under Dawkins to injuries under previous coaches is way too small to draw any conclusions about JD's training program. My recollection is that we had a lot of injuries under Monty, too. Of course, Monty was successful, so the blame for those injuries fell upon the bouncy floor. Now, we have an unsuccessful coach and a less bouncy floor, so it's suddenly Dawkins' fault? And how exactly does the author know that Randle was gassed from practicing too hard? This is a lot of rampant speculation with zero evidence.Â
As for the impact of injuries, we'll miss the 3-point shooting of Gage and Bright, but neither are great on defense, which is our big weakness. Sanders and Allen were not major contributors last year. Having Brown would've helped last year, but I doubt that he would've made us a Tourney team. Blame Dawkins all you want for the team's poor performance, but injuries just happen sometimes.
(By the way, MBB has a big game at #10 UConn tonight on ESPN)
As for the impact of injuries, we'll miss the 3-point shooting of Gage and Bright, but neither are great on defense, which is our big weakness. Sanders and Allen were not major contributors last year. Having Brown would've helped last year, but I doubt that he would've made us a Tourney team. Blame Dawkins all you want for the team's poor performance, but injuries just happen sometimes.
(By the way, MBB has a big game at #10 UConn tonight on ESPN)
12-18-2013, 08:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-18-2013, 08:20 AM by CapitolHillCard.)
Agreed. This was a dumb, lazy article. Not only is there the sample size problem that burger mentioned, the author does not even bother to make comparisons to previous Stanford teams or other PAC-12 teams over the same time period. Montgomery also has had some real injuries problems at Cal over the last couple of years -- but they have not stopped him from reaching the NCAAs.
Which leads us to the issue of results. The data here are pretty clear: Dawkins hasn't yet delivered, last year in particular.Â
Of the current injuries, Rosco Allen, Aaron Bright, and Andy Brown hurt us the most.Â
Allen is athletic, has good size, and showed real improvement this summer. I continue to think our best line up has him at the three, which would allow Huestis and Powell to move to the 4 and 5 respectively. Nastic has improved offensively, but doesn't rebound and is a defensive liability.
Bright is undersized and not that quick, which leads to defensive problems, but he can shoot (well, other than last year) and is the closest thing that this team has to an experienced point guard. In other words, Bright was a useful first guy off the bench and backcourt depth for a team that has none.Â
Andy Brown is the glue guy that all successful teams need. Just a heady player. You also had to root for him given how many times and how hard he tried to come back after injuries.
Sanders may contribute next year, but didn't do a whole lot last year so can't really know whether he would have contributed this year.Â
Gage and Verhoeven are on the mend, back with the team and useful reserves in the front court.
The next two games -- UCONN tonight and Michigan this weekend -- are brobdingnagian for this team. In its absurdly early bracketology column, ESPN has us currently as one of the first four teams out of the NCAAs. Without a win in the next two games, any chances of making the NCAAs will depend entirely on a very good conference record and the PAC12 is looking much tougher this year.
Which leads us to the issue of results. The data here are pretty clear: Dawkins hasn't yet delivered, last year in particular.Â
Of the current injuries, Rosco Allen, Aaron Bright, and Andy Brown hurt us the most.Â
Allen is athletic, has good size, and showed real improvement this summer. I continue to think our best line up has him at the three, which would allow Huestis and Powell to move to the 4 and 5 respectively. Nastic has improved offensively, but doesn't rebound and is a defensive liability.
Bright is undersized and not that quick, which leads to defensive problems, but he can shoot (well, other than last year) and is the closest thing that this team has to an experienced point guard. In other words, Bright was a useful first guy off the bench and backcourt depth for a team that has none.Â
Andy Brown is the glue guy that all successful teams need. Just a heady player. You also had to root for him given how many times and how hard he tried to come back after injuries.
Sanders may contribute next year, but didn't do a whole lot last year so can't really know whether he would have contributed this year.Â
Gage and Verhoeven are on the mend, back with the team and useful reserves in the front court.
The next two games -- UCONN tonight and Michigan this weekend -- are brobdingnagian for this team. In its absurdly early bracketology column, ESPN has us currently as one of the first four teams out of the NCAAs. Without a win in the next two games, any chances of making the NCAAs will depend entirely on a very good conference record and the PAC12 is looking much tougher this year.
(This post was last modified: 12-18-2013, 08:20 AM by CapitolHillCard.)
Agreed. This was a dumb, lazy article. Not only is there the sample size problem that burger mentioned, the author does not even bother to make comparisons to previous Stanford teams or other PAC-12 teams over the same time period. Montgomery also has had some real injuries problems at Cal over the last couple of years -- but they have not stopped him from reaching the NCAAs.
Which leads us to the issue of results. The data here are pretty clear: Dawkins hasn't yet delivered, last year in particular.Â
Of the current injuries, Rosco Allen, Aaron Bright, and Andy Brown hurt us the most.Â
Allen is athletic, has good size, and showed real improvement this summer. I continue to think our best line up has him at the three, which would allow Huestis and Powell to move to the 4 and 5 respectively. Nastic has improved offensively, but doesn't rebound and is a defensive liability.
Bright is undersized and not that quick, which leads to defensive problems, but he can shoot (well, other than last year) and is the closest thing that this team has to an experienced point guard. In other words, Bright was a useful first guy off the bench and backcourt depth for a team that has none.Â
Andy Brown is the glue guy that all successful teams need. Just a heady player. You also had to root for him given how many times and how hard he tried to come back after injuries.
Sanders may contribute next year, but didn't do a whole lot last year so can't really know whether he would have contributed this year.Â
Gage and Verhoeven are on the mend, back with the team and useful reserves in the front court.
The next two games -- UCONN tonight and Michigan this weekend -- are brobdingnagian for this team. In its absurdly early bracketology column, ESPN has us currently as one of the first four teams out of the NCAAs. Without a win in the next two games, any chances of making the NCAAs will depend entirely on a very good conference record and the PAC12 is looking much tougher this year.
Which leads us to the issue of results. The data here are pretty clear: Dawkins hasn't yet delivered, last year in particular.Â
Of the current injuries, Rosco Allen, Aaron Bright, and Andy Brown hurt us the most.Â
Allen is athletic, has good size, and showed real improvement this summer. I continue to think our best line up has him at the three, which would allow Huestis and Powell to move to the 4 and 5 respectively. Nastic has improved offensively, but doesn't rebound and is a defensive liability.
Bright is undersized and not that quick, which leads to defensive problems, but he can shoot (well, other than last year) and is the closest thing that this team has to an experienced point guard. In other words, Bright was a useful first guy off the bench and backcourt depth for a team that has none.Â
Andy Brown is the glue guy that all successful teams need. Just a heady player. You also had to root for him given how many times and how hard he tried to come back after injuries.
Sanders may contribute next year, but didn't do a whole lot last year so can't really know whether he would have contributed this year.Â
Gage and Verhoeven are on the mend, back with the team and useful reserves in the front court.
The next two games -- UCONN tonight and Michigan this weekend -- are brobdingnagian for this team. In its absurdly early bracketology column, ESPN has us currently as one of the first four teams out of the NCAAs. Without a win in the next two games, any chances of making the NCAAs will depend entirely on a very good conference record and the PAC12 is looking much tougher this year.
12-18-2013, 08:27 AM
Gee .... I thought our injury problems went away when we swapped out the bouncy floor?
(I really liked that floor. I know, I know - Let it go Lefty .)
(I really liked that floor. I know, I know - Let it go Lefty .)
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
Gee .... I thought our injury problems went away when we swapped out the bouncy floor?
(I really liked that floor. I know, I know - Let it go Lefty .)
(I really liked that floor. I know, I know - Let it go Lefty .)
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
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12-18-2013, 08:34 AM
here's hoping AD muir already has his eye on eventual replacements for JD...
here's hoping AD muir already has his eye on eventual replacements for JD...
12-18-2013, 09:27 AM
Isn't Turley involved with more than just football? If not, he should be working very closely with other trainers in the Stanford system.
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