[OutsiderFan]

Had a meeting with his boss, Ms. Barbour on Monday: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...our-monday

Presser at 2:30 PT on 3/31.

[OutsiderFan]

Had a meeting with his boss, Ms. Barbour on Monday: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...our-monday

Presser at 2:30 PT on 3/31.

[71Bear]

Sounds pretty solid...  Maybe UC can swipe Dawkins from LSJU...  ;)  What do you think, Garvin?  Is it a possibility?   

[71Bear]

Sounds pretty solid...  Maybe UC can swipe Dawkins from LSJU...  ;)  What do you think, Garvin?  Is it a possibility?   

[FarmBoy]

Actually, wouldn't the logical next step be to hire Trent Johnson? Then they can hire Dawkins 3-4 years down the road when Muir (or the next AD) has the guts to make a change...

[FarmBoy]

Actually, wouldn't the logical next step be to hire Trent Johnson? Then they can hire Dawkins 3-4 years down the road when Muir (or the next AD) has the guts to make a change...

[71Bear]

Farm... 

I think that you are on to something.  I'll look for an announcement re: Johnson soon......

Seriously, Utah's Krystkowiak will be among the top candidates.

[71Bear]

Farm... 

I think that you are on to something.  I'll look for an announcement re: Johnson soon......

Seriously, Utah's Krystkowiak will be among the top candidates.

[BostonCard]

Krystkowiak would be a great get, but I have to ask... Can you guys afford him?

BC

[BostonCard]

Krystkowiak would be a great get, but I have to ask... Can you guys afford him?

BC

[StanFan88]

Krystkowiak would be a great get, but I have to ask... Can you guys afford him?

BC

Better question is would he take the job if offered?

[StanFan88]

Krystkowiak would be a great get, but I have to ask... Can you guys afford him?

BC

Better question is would he take the job if offered?

[71Bear]

BC- I think so.  Monty makes $1.75 million/year and Krystkowiak earns $950,000/year.  I believe Krystkowiak would jump at an opportunity to nearly double his salary.

[71Bear]

BC- I think so.  Monty makes $1.75 million/year and Krystkowiak earns $950,000/year.  I believe Krystkowiak would jump at an opportunity to nearly double his salary.

[BostonCard]

BC- I think so.  Monty makes $1.75 million/year and Krystkowiak earns $950,000/year.  I believe Krystkowiak would jump at an opportunity to nearly double his salary.

Yeah, but with Tedford's buyout (two-thirds of $5.5 million over the next two years) and the possibility of having to buy out Dykes' contract in the next couple years, I wonder if Barbour is thinking that this might be a good opportunity for Cal to save a few bucks and maybe get a coach at around a million.  The situation is a bit different now than July 2012, when Montgomery signed his extension.  Plus you figure Utah would likely counter any Cal offer.

BC

[BostonCard]

BC- I think so.  Monty makes $1.75 million/year and Krystkowiak earns $950,000/year.  I believe Krystkowiak would jump at an opportunity to nearly double his salary.

Yeah, but with Tedford's buyout (two-thirds of $5.5 million over the next two years) and the possibility of having to buy out Dykes' contract in the next couple years, I wonder if Barbour is thinking that this might be a good opportunity for Cal to save a few bucks and maybe get a coach at around a million.  The situation is a bit different now than July 2012, when Montgomery signed his extension.  Plus you figure Utah would likely counter any Cal offer.

BC

[FarmBoy]

Sources have changed from "Monty May Retire" to "Monty Will Retire."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...y-retiring

Good riddance. Not cause I have anything against MM. More because it always just felt wrong seeing him over there.

Will he take some emeritus position in either AD office?

[FarmBoy]

Sources have changed from "Monty May Retire" to "Monty Will Retire."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...y-retiring

Good riddance. Not cause I have anything against MM. More because it always just felt wrong seeing him over there.

Will he take some emeritus position in either AD office?

[washingtonismoney]

Will he take some emeritus position in either AD office?

Not in the East Bay -- Andy Buh has that position locked. down.

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/201...tball-2014

[washingtonismoney]

Will he take some emeritus position in either AD office?

Not in the East Bay -- Andy Buh has that position locked. down.

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/201...tball-2014

[Hank 91]

I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

[Hank 91]

I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

[stupac2]

According to Wilner it's now official.

[stupac2]

According to Wilner it's now official.

[CTcard]

I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

Maybe.

But maybe had he stayed at Stanford, he would have spent the rest of his life wondering "could I have cut it at the highest level of basketball? If I had just given it a shot ... "

Who knows? Mostly it depends what drives the man - and I don't know him well enough for that.

[CTcard]

I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

Maybe.

But maybe had he stayed at Stanford, he would have spent the rest of his life wondering "could I have cut it at the highest level of basketball? If I had just given it a shot ... "

Who knows? Mostly it depends what drives the man - and I don't know him well enough for that.

[Mick]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=9764.msg86864#msg86864 date=1396295238]
I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

Maybe.

But maybe he had stayed at Stanford, he would have spent the rest of his life wondering "could I have cut it at the highest level of basketball? If I had just given it a shot ... "

Who knows? Mostly it depends what drives the man - and I don't know him well enough for that.
[/quote]


He made $10 million in four years with the Warriors.  I'm guessing that consoled him a bit.

[Mick]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=9764.msg86864#msg86864 date=1396295238]
I was thinking yesterday that Montgomery must have some degree of regret about leaving. Sure, he got his payday and a taste of the NBA, but if he had stayed at Stanford -- and maintained something close to the level of success he had had -- people would be looking at him as a viable Hall of Fame candidate. Such a shame.

Maybe.

But maybe he had stayed at Stanford, he would have spent the rest of his life wondering "could I have cut it at the highest level of basketball? If I had just given it a shot ... "

Who knows? Mostly it depends what drives the man - and I don't know him well enough for that.
[/quote]


He made $10 million in four years with the Warriors.  I'm guessing that consoled him a bit.

[Trevmiesterj]

Well, Monty was at Stanford for 18 years - that's a long time.  I think after bowing out in the 2nd round 3 years in a row before the Dubz came calling could have factored into his leaving.  Hard to say but that '97-'98 team was oh so close to the finals.  I remember that game against Kentucky with forever sadness.

[Trevmiesterj]

Well, Monty was at Stanford for 18 years - that's a long time.  I think after bowing out in the 2nd round 3 years in a row before the Dubz came calling could have factored into his leaving.  Hard to say but that '97-'98 team was oh so close to the finals.  I remember that game against Kentucky with forever sadness.

[triangle2]

I will always be grateful for what Mike did to bring the basketball program from the dark ages to a remarkable period of sustained excellence. 

I am just old enough to have personally experienced Stanford men's basketball of the mid-70's.  I can say for myself that getting to watch the program's ascendance from 7-20 under DiBiaso to  30-5 and the Final Four in 97-98 was the greatest experience I have had as a devoted college basketball fan.

It was a great ride.

[triangle2]

I will always be grateful for what Mike did to bring the basketball program from the dark ages to a remarkable period of sustained excellence. 

I am just old enough to have personally experienced Stanford men's basketball of the mid-70's.  I can say for myself that getting to watch the program's ascendance from 7-20 under DiBiaso to  30-5 and the Final Four in 97-98 was the greatest experience I have had as a devoted college basketball fan.

It was a great ride.

[Treebound]

One point to remember regarding the timing of Monty's departure:  It was the height (or the low point) of the Mamlet years.  She was severely hampering the recruiting fronts of many of the sports programs.    I did not have an issue with him leaving for the Warriors.  I was sad to see him go, but I wished him luck and understood his decision to try the NBA. 

I completely disagreed with his move to UCB.  Would John Wooden have gone to USC?  No!  He could have picked any other program in the country.  He then became Benedict Monty to me.  I also believe he was trying to work an angle with the AD on his role there before he departed.  I don't know all the details, but something was questioned around comp, I believe.  He tainted his Stanford ties with the move across the Bay.  Yes, I thank him for what he did for our program, but going to our rival was a poor decision.

[Treebound]

One point to remember regarding the timing of Monty's departure:  It was the height (or the low point) of the Mamlet years.  She was severely hampering the recruiting fronts of many of the sports programs.    I did not have an issue with him leaving for the Warriors.  I was sad to see him go, but I wished him luck and understood his decision to try the NBA. 

I completely disagreed with his move to UCB.  Would John Wooden have gone to USC?  No!  He could have picked any other program in the country.  He then became Benedict Monty to me.  I also believe he was trying to work an angle with the AD on his role there before he departed.  I don't know all the details, but something was questioned around comp, I believe.  He tainted his Stanford ties with the move across the Bay.  Yes, I thank him for what he did for our program, but going to our rival was a poor decision.

[71Bear]

I guess that I'll never understand people who consider coaches as "traitors" for taking jobs with their rivals.  It is a business.  They need to consider what is best for themselves and their families.  Everything else is secondary. 

This "dear ol' Alma Mater" stuff died when college athletics became an industry.  Heck, I never thought any less of John Ralston when he took the LSJU head coaching job even though he was one of "Pappy's Boy's".  I figured it was his best option at the time....

[71Bear]

I guess that I'll never understand people who consider coaches as "traitors" for taking jobs with their rivals.  It is a business.  They need to consider what is best for themselves and their families.  Everything else is secondary. 

This "dear ol' Alma Mater" stuff died when college athletics became an industry.  Heck, I never thought any less of John Ralston when he took the LSJU head coaching job even though he was one of "Pappy's Boy's".  I figured it was his best option at the time....

[BostonCard]

I guess that I'll never understand people who consider coaches as "traitors" for taking jobs with their rivals.  It is a business.  They need to consider what is best for themselves and their families.  Everything else is secondary. 

This "dear ol' Alma Mater" stuff died when college athletics became an industry.  Heck, I never thought any less of John Ralston when he took the LSJU head coaching job even though he was one of "Pappy's Boy's".  I figured it was his best option at the time....

Yes, I agree with you 71Bear.  I don't begrudge Monty.  He wanted to get back into coaching college, Stanford had a coach, and moving to Cal meant he didn't have to pack his bags.

We can't on the one hand advocate firing Dawkins while on the other begrudging a coach who used to coach us for taking an opportunity to coach elsewhere, even if it is with our rival.  I'd be a touch more miffed if he had been our head coach at the time, but even then, I'm not going to pretend that if another academic institution (even a "rival") offered me a better job that I wouldn't take it.

BC

[BostonCard]

I guess that I'll never understand people who consider coaches as "traitors" for taking jobs with their rivals.  It is a business.  They need to consider what is best for themselves and their families.  Everything else is secondary. 

This "dear ol' Alma Mater" stuff died when college athletics became an industry.  Heck, I never thought any less of John Ralston when he took the LSJU head coaching job even though he was one of "Pappy's Boy's".  I figured it was his best option at the time....

Yes, I agree with you 71Bear.  I don't begrudge Monty.  He wanted to get back into coaching college, Stanford had a coach, and moving to Cal meant he didn't have to pack his bags.

We can't on the one hand advocate firing Dawkins while on the other begrudging a coach who used to coach us for taking an opportunity to coach elsewhere, even if it is with our rival.  I'd be a touch more miffed if he had been our head coach at the time, but even then, I'm not going to pretend that if another academic institution (even a "rival") offered me a better job that I wouldn't take it.

BC

[rudruff]

The Final Four and the opportunity for my friends to complain about how he was winning conference titles gives him a pass from me. We haven't had a better coach.

[rudruff]

The Final Four and the opportunity for my friends to complain about how he was winning conference titles gives him a pass from me. We haven't had a better coach.