[terry]

The updated list of leaders in NCAA team championships:

110  UCLA
105  Stanford
99  U,S,C
51  Oklahoma St.
45  Penn St.
42  Arkansas
42  LSU
42  Texas
40  North Carolina
36  Michigan

I know I've said this before, but I think we need to keep an eye on U,S,C. They are a threat to us.

[terry]

The updated list of leaders in NCAA team championships:

110  UCLA
105  Stanford
99  U,S,C
51  Oklahoma St.
45  Penn St.
42  Arkansas
42  LSU
42  Texas
40  North Carolina
36  Michigan

I know I've said this before, but I think we need to keep an eye on U,S,C. They are a threat to us.

[terry]

This graphic shows the number of national championships for Stanford, U,S,C, and UCLA over time. It was posted by a UCLA fan on the UCLA board. It was posted last summer, so it doesn't include the current academic year, but that doesn't really make a difference. You can see that Stanford was well behind U,S,C and UCLA in the late 1970s and early 1980s, then made up a lot of ground in the 1980s and 1990s. Stanford caught U,S,C and almost caught UCLA around 1999. But UCLA opened up some space around 2001 and has held its lead ever since. U,S,C has closed a little bit of ground on UCLA and Stanford over the last few years.

Click on the chart to enlarge it.

[terry]

This graphic shows the number of national championships for Stanford, U,S,C, and UCLA over time. It was posted by a UCLA fan on the UCLA board. It was posted last summer, so it doesn't include the current academic year, but that doesn't really make a difference. You can see that Stanford was well behind U,S,C and UCLA in the late 1970s and early 1980s, then made up a lot of ground in the 1980s and 1990s. Stanford caught U,S,C and almost caught UCLA around 1999. But UCLA opened up some space around 2001 and has held its lead ever since. U,S,C has closed a little bit of ground on UCLA and Stanford over the last few years.

Click on the chart to enlarge it.

[CTcard]

Very interesting graph, Terry. And it answers a question I was going to ask - how close did Stanford ever get to UCLA. I think that chart says within 2, but it's hard enough to read I'd put a +/- 1 on that.

One thing I found interesting was that UCLA was at 0 championships until 1950, though Stanford had about 10 at that time. In fact the UCLA Bruin Wikipedia page lists their first title as 1950 men's tennis. Stanford's first was apparently Track and Field in 1924.

The UCLA championship wikipedia page lists 111 titles for UCLA. That appears to include the 1995 softball championship which was then negated by the NCAA - I think that was the Tanya Harding (no, the other one) imported ringer fiasco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_Bruins

There is a wikipedia page on "List of NCAA schools with the most Division 1 championships". They eventually rank schools by their own choice of "Total Team Titles" which adds to NCAA championships "Recognized Football Championships", AIAW championships, and those awarded by other organizations that were once NCAA sports. Makes me think an SC grad put the page together to get SC into second place. Archery doesn't make the cut, so ASU only gets to add 20 "other team titles". That sort of counting pushes the Ivies way up, as they excel in obscure sports and in the long-ago days when the NCAA didn't dominate the scene so much. Cornell gets 70 "other team titles", most in forms of rowing.

It is an interesting page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...mpionships

[CTcard]

Very interesting graph, Terry. And it answers a question I was going to ask - how close did Stanford ever get to UCLA. I think that chart says within 2, but it's hard enough to read I'd put a +/- 1 on that.

One thing I found interesting was that UCLA was at 0 championships until 1950, though Stanford had about 10 at that time. In fact the UCLA Bruin Wikipedia page lists their first title as 1950 men's tennis. Stanford's first was apparently Track and Field in 1924.

The UCLA championship wikipedia page lists 111 titles for UCLA. That appears to include the 1995 softball championship which was then negated by the NCAA - I think that was the Tanya Harding (no, the other one) imported ringer fiasco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_Bruins

There is a wikipedia page on "List of NCAA schools with the most Division 1 championships". They eventually rank schools by their own choice of "Total Team Titles" which adds to NCAA championships "Recognized Football Championships", AIAW championships, and those awarded by other organizations that were once NCAA sports. Makes me think an SC grad put the page together to get SC into second place. Archery doesn't make the cut, so ASU only gets to add 20 "other team titles". That sort of counting pushes the Ivies way up, as they excel in obscure sports and in the long-ago days when the NCAA didn't dominate the scene so much. Cornell gets 70 "other team titles", most in forms of rowing.

It is an interesting page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...mpionships

[Farm93]

How close was the UCLA Stanford gap?

In 1999, UCLA wanted to use the Most NCAA Team Titles in the century claim to then declare themselves the college athletics program on the century, but the gap was so small that they needed to wait for the fall sports to finish up.  I think they needed to wait until very late November because it was possible that Stanford could have won the XCs, MWP and/or WVP to zip right over the top.  At one point in there Stanford did not win one of those titles, and then with only one or two outstanding UCLA issued their press release to declare themselves the Program of the Century.  It was that close.

At the time it looked clear that the trend was our friend and that by 2001 or 2002 Stanford would move ahead.  I would never have thought that UCLAs lead would be safe apparently into 2015 and likely beyond.

[Farm93]

How close was the UCLA Stanford gap?

In 1999, UCLA wanted to use the Most NCAA Team Titles in the century claim to then declare themselves the college athletics program on the century, but the gap was so small that they needed to wait for the fall sports to finish up.  I think they needed to wait until very late November because it was possible that Stanford could have won the XCs, MWP and/or WVP to zip right over the top.  At one point in there Stanford did not win one of those titles, and then with only one or two outstanding UCLA issued their press release to declare themselves the Program of the Century.  It was that close.

At the time it looked clear that the trend was our friend and that by 2001 or 2002 Stanford would move ahead.  I would never have thought that UCLAs lead would be safe apparently into 2015 and likely beyond.

[terry]

There is a wikipedia page on "List of NCAA schools with the most Division 1 championships". They eventually rank schools by their own choice of "Total Team Titles" which adds to NCAA championships "Recognized Football Championships", AIAW championships, and those awarded by other organizations that were once NCAA sports. Makes me think an SC grad put the page together to get SC into second place. Archery doesn't make the cut, so ASU only gets to add 20 "other team titles". That sort of counting pushes the Ivies way up, as they excel in obscure sports and in the long-ago days when the NCAA didn't dominate the scene so much. Cornell gets 70 "other team titles", most in forms of rowing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...mpionships

Hmmm. The authors seem to have made some arbitrary choices about what to include. For example, they count equestrian, synchronized swimming, and women's badminton, but not sailing, women's lightweight rowing, or men's or co-ed badminton. I'm not sure why.

That page gives Stanford 116 national championships. But our athletic department claims 124 championships. I would take all these numbers with a grain of salt.

[terry]

There is a wikipedia page on "List of NCAA schools with the most Division 1 championships". They eventually rank schools by their own choice of "Total Team Titles" which adds to NCAA championships "Recognized Football Championships", AIAW championships, and those awarded by other organizations that were once NCAA sports. Makes me think an SC grad put the page together to get SC into second place. Archery doesn't make the cut, so ASU only gets to add 20 "other team titles". That sort of counting pushes the Ivies way up, as they excel in obscure sports and in the long-ago days when the NCAA didn't dominate the scene so much. Cornell gets 70 "other team titles", most in forms of rowing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...mpionships

Hmmm. The authors seem to have made some arbitrary choices about what to include. For example, they count equestrian, synchronized swimming, and women's badminton, but not sailing, women's lightweight rowing, or men's or co-ed badminton. I'm not sure why.

That page gives Stanford 116 national championships. But our athletic department claims 124 championships. I would take all these numbers with a grain of salt.

[BobK]

Agreed after posting I was back to delete.  Thanks Terry  :)

[BobK]

Agreed after posting I was back to delete.  Thanks Terry  :)