[jb5O4]

I don\'t mean to create more gossip or speculation. I\'m not even bold enough to say Harbaugh would take the job at Michigan. Stanford is a great program, great university and Palo Alto does have nicer weather than Ann Arbor, MI.

But I must say alot of Michigan fans are making rumblings about trying to get Harbaugh. I\'d like to see Rodriguez succeed at Michigan at the same time I would like to see Harbaugh continue to succeed at Stanford. Should be interesting to see what happens in the next year at Michigan. I doubt we\'ll get rid of Rodriguez this season unless we get totally embarrassed in the bowl game. If we can\'t compete with the good teams on our schedule next year I don\'t see them not making a coaching change.

As a Michigan alum who\'s dream school was Stanford I hope to see success for both programs. Go Cardinal!

[jb5O4]

I don\'t mean to create more gossip or speculation. I\'m not even bold enough to say Harbaugh would take the job at Michigan. Stanford is a great program, great university and Palo Alto does have nicer weather than Ann Arbor, MI.

But I must say alot of Michigan fans are making rumblings about trying to get Harbaugh. I\'d like to see Rodriguez succeed at Michigan at the same time I would like to see Harbaugh continue to succeed at Stanford. Should be interesting to see what happens in the next year at Michigan. I doubt we\'ll get rid of Rodriguez this season unless we get totally embarrassed in the bowl game. If we can\'t compete with the good teams on our schedule next year I don\'t see them not making a coaching change.

As a Michigan alum who\'s dream school was Stanford I hope to see success for both programs. Go Cardinal!

[Redrum]

Didn\'t you know that Harbaugh is going to -- the 49ers, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jags, Cincinnatti Bengals, Washington Redskins, Raiders-- by the time Michigan gets its act together to rob Ft. Knox to hire him?   Absolute gospel truth.  I read it on the internet.

I thought Michigan had put out a contract on Harbaugh after his comments on the, uh, ummm,  less than rigorous academics served to football players at UM.   Players and ex-teammates swearing Harbaugh was dead to them.   What happened to all the anger, man?   Did you little scamps have a grown adult going around later explaining the real world to all those outraged people?

Either way, we\'ll see.   Harbaugh might surprise you guys...either with his price tag, or his "no thanks."   Could happen.  Stranger things have.

[Redrum]

Didn\'t you know that Harbaugh is going to -- the 49ers, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jags, Cincinnatti Bengals, Washington Redskins, Raiders-- by the time Michigan gets its act together to rob Ft. Knox to hire him?   Absolute gospel truth.  I read it on the internet.

I thought Michigan had put out a contract on Harbaugh after his comments on the, uh, ummm,  less than rigorous academics served to football players at UM.   Players and ex-teammates swearing Harbaugh was dead to them.   What happened to all the anger, man?   Did you little scamps have a grown adult going around later explaining the real world to all those outraged people?

Either way, we\'ll see.   Harbaugh might surprise you guys...either with his price tag, or his "no thanks."   Could happen.  Stranger things have.

[jb5O4]

His comments about academics did anger many people but we all know athletes at UM get special treatment. People would let it slide. Like I said theres a chance he would say no to Michigan. I don\'t think money would be much of a problem, UM would pay him what he wants. I think we can all agree at some point Rodriguez has to win to keep his job at Michigan. If the time comes he does not show that he can not get Michigan back to a perennial contender in the Big Ten race, then the program will go after the coach they think can get them back to that. I must say Harbaugh would be a target.

I just wanted to open some UM to Stanford fan discussion about it.

[jb5O4]

His comments about academics did anger many people but we all know athletes at UM get special treatment. People would let it slide. Like I said theres a chance he would say no to Michigan. I don\'t think money would be much of a problem, UM would pay him what he wants. I think we can all agree at some point Rodriguez has to win to keep his job at Michigan. If the time comes he does not show that he can not get Michigan back to a perennial contender in the Big Ten race, then the program will go after the coach they think can get them back to that. I must say Harbaugh would be a target.

I just wanted to open some UM to Stanford fan discussion about it.

[washingtonismoney]

Bruce Feldman is reporting that the trustees summit is false.

[washingtonismoney]

Bruce Feldman is reporting that the trustees summit is false.

[Redrum]

who was not caught snorting crack or doing his secretary.

i thought the whole deal with Shannon was an AA coach tapping into the rich S. Florida football talent pool and neutralizing the grip UF has had for almost the last decade.  And then he blows it by mis-evaluating talent?   Cripes.  

[Redrum]

who was not caught snorting crack or doing his secretary.

i thought the whole deal with Shannon was an AA coach tapping into the rich S. Florida football talent pool and neutralizing the grip UF has had for almost the last decade.  And then he blows it by mis-evaluating talent?   Cripes.  

[Pastor]

I understand that T Willy is available.

[Pastor]

I understand that T Willy is available.

[yvonne]

Let\'s just hire David Shaw. I\'m tired of these guys who just come here to use Stanford as a stepping stone. I\'m tired of the local media who create a self-fulfilling prophecy by talking about how much better the situation is elsewhere. I\'m tired of how they denigrate the crowd, even though it took a while for the crowds to build up elsewhere. I\'m tired of coaches who say all the right things about building a program only to leave and return the program in the same shambles it was in before they arrived.

Let\'s hire one of our own and be done with it.

[yvonne]

Let\'s just hire David Shaw. I\'m tired of these guys who just come here to use Stanford as a stepping stone. I\'m tired of the local media who create a self-fulfilling prophecy by talking about how much better the situation is elsewhere. I\'m tired of how they denigrate the crowd, even though it took a while for the crowds to build up elsewhere. I\'m tired of coaches who say all the right things about building a program only to leave and return the program in the same shambles it was in before they arrived.

Let\'s hire one of our own and be done with it.

[Leftcoast]

But Yvonne, I\'m not tired of this year nor  have I forgotten the deep hole of insignificance the program has been dug out of.   Are you?

And ... no one really knows what Harbaugh will do once the season ends, perhaps including Jim himself.

[Leftcoast]

But Yvonne, I\'m not tired of this year nor  have I forgotten the deep hole of insignificance the program has been dug out of.   Are you?

And ... no one really knows what Harbaugh will do once the season ends, perhaps including Jim himself.

[readarmy1976]

Football is not all that important to people at Stanoford, whereas it is the focal point of life to people at most state-run schools. Does harbs want 100,000 fans at his games? probably. but he\'s such an elitist he might prefer Stanford. Not sure.

[readarmy1976]

Football is not all that important to people at Stanoford, whereas it is the focal point of life to people at most state-run schools. Does harbs want 100,000 fans at his games? probably. but he\'s such an elitist he might prefer Stanford. Not sure.

[yvonne]

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

[yvonne]

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

[readarmy1976]

i don\'t see how any football coach would want to be at a place that cares as much about women\'s swimming as football, considering football is all-important at most schools. The whole point of stanford is that an engineering student thinks he\'s a bigger deal than a football player. totally different reality from 99% of american schools which are just using the concept of a college as a front for football partying.

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

[readarmy1976]

i don\'t see how any football coach would want to be at a place that cares as much about women\'s swimming as football, considering football is all-important at most schools. The whole point of stanford is that an engineering student thinks he\'s a bigger deal than a football player. totally different reality from 99% of american schools which are just using the concept of a college as a front for football partying.

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

[Leftcoast]

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

Do you really think Harbaugh leaving (which I\'m not willing to concede) will take us back to 2005?   That would be some fall .... and the table is still loaded with his recruits.   It would take a truly awful hire to let Stanford fall back into that pit.  

Worst case, he leaves this year after rescuing the program from irrelevance.   Best case he sticks around for another 10 years and we have another Monty (not a Stanford guy), but this time in football.  

I\'m still hoping for door 2.   And don\'t you remember Paul Wiggin?   Stanford guy, bled Red & White, would have stayed forever and the reason I (and John Elway) never saw a bowl during my undergrad years.   I\'d have died for a Jim Harbaugh.

[Leftcoast]

Look, if a coach is going to just come in, build up his resume, leave, and then allow us to fall back into the mire of irrelevance, then screw him. I want someone who wants to be here.

Do you really think Harbaugh leaving (which I\'m not willing to concede) will take us back to 2005?   That would be some fall .... and the table is still loaded with his recruits.   It would take a truly awful hire to let Stanford fall back into that pit.  

Worst case, he leaves this year after rescuing the program from irrelevance.   Best case he sticks around for another 10 years and we have another Monty (not a Stanford guy), but this time in football.  

I\'m still hoping for door 2.   And don\'t you remember Paul Wiggin?   Stanford guy, bled Red & White, would have stayed forever and the reason I (and John Elway) never saw a bowl during my undergrad years.   I\'d have died for a Jim Harbaugh.

[readarmy1976]

I think harbs is too smart to split before his seeds sprout. he\'s put in all this ground work...it would be foolish to split now. i mean, he can win a national title. it would take years to establish his culture at michigan. heck, it might not be possible to do it there.

but, i think he is deeply bothered by the lack of rabid fan support. if harbs does split, fangio all the way!

[readarmy1976]

I think harbs is too smart to split before his seeds sprout. he\'s put in all this ground work...it would be foolish to split now. i mean, he can win a national title. it would take years to establish his culture at michigan. heck, it might not be possible to do it there.

but, i think he is deeply bothered by the lack of rabid fan support. if harbs does split, fangio all the way!

[JohnR34231]

I obviously hope JH sticks around, but if he doesn\'t I want an up and comer, not a recycled coach. I also don\'t want someone from the current staff.

If you look at our track record with up and comers as opposed to recycled/current staff types.............

Up and comers Ralston, Walsh, Green, T.W, JH
Recycled/Current Staff Christiansen, Dowhower,Wiggin, Elway, Buddy, Wlat

A couple of up and comers who jump to mind
Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
Troy Calhoun, Air Force Academy

[JohnR34231]

I obviously hope JH sticks around, but if he doesn\'t I want an up and comer, not a recycled coach. I also don\'t want someone from the current staff.

If you look at our track record with up and comers as opposed to recycled/current staff types.............

Up and comers Ralston, Walsh, Green, T.W, JH
Recycled/Current Staff Christiansen, Dowhower,Wiggin, Elway, Buddy, Wlat

A couple of up and comers who jump to mind
Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
Troy Calhoun, Air Force Academy

[fyao]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

[fyao]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

[JeffInCorvallis]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

Who thought this?

[JeffInCorvallis]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

Who thought this?

[Hurlburt88]

I actually thought Green was successful at Northwestern . . . broke 3 year losing streak and actually got them to win 2-4 games per year before going to work for Walsh/49ers.  

[Hurlburt88]

I actually thought Green was successful at Northwestern . . . broke 3 year losing streak and actually got them to win 2-4 games per year before going to work for Walsh/49ers.  

[fyao]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

Who thought this?

Ted Leland.

He was supposed to bring offensive know how from being in Steve Spurrier\'s vaunted system in Florida.  He had never been a head coach, but Ted had high hopes for him.  And those hopes went beyond Ted to some degree.  Teevens talked a good game about bring the Florida way of doing things to Stanford, including how to rush the qb - shortly after his hiring, Julian Jenkins, the #1 DE in the country verballed to Stanford.

[fyao]

Also, Budddy Teeevens was thought to be a new up and coming coach who just needed an opportunity to show his stuff.

Who thought this?

Ted Leland.

He was supposed to bring offensive know how from being in Steve Spurrier\'s vaunted system in Florida.  He had never been a head coach, but Ted had high hopes for him.  And those hopes went beyond Ted to some degree.  Teevens talked a good game about bring the Florida way of doing things to Stanford, including how to rush the qb - shortly after his hiring, Julian Jenkins, the #1 DE in the country verballed to Stanford.

[yvonne]

I obviously hope JH sticks around, but if he doesn\'t I want an up and comer, not a recycled coach. I also don\'t want someone from the current staff.

Everybody wants Harbaugh to stick around. The question is whether it\'s a foregone conclusion that he\'ll be like all the rest (actually, I don\'t include Ralston in that mix.)

As for getting one from our staff, all our good coaches before came from the Ralston coaching tree:

Walsh, Green, Willingham.

If we get jilted, I want to pick someone who won\'t do it the next time around, and that\'s David Shaw.

[yvonne]

I obviously hope JH sticks around, but if he doesn\'t I want an up and comer, not a recycled coach. I also don\'t want someone from the current staff.

Everybody wants Harbaugh to stick around. The question is whether it\'s a foregone conclusion that he\'ll be like all the rest (actually, I don\'t include Ralston in that mix.)

As for getting one from our staff, all our good coaches before came from the Ralston coaching tree:

Walsh, Green, Willingham.

If we get jilted, I want to pick someone who won\'t do it the next time around, and that\'s David Shaw.

[ealtice]

Like all of us, I hope Harbaugh ends up staying for the next decade or so.  But, if he doesn\'t, I want a Harbaugh-trained coach, someone familiar with the culture JH has been able to establish with this program, and also someone who is capable of recruiting high-quality recruits to Stanford.  JH has gone a long way toward closing the talent-gap on the field.  One name that jumps to mind is Willie Taggert, the former JH assistant who has been head coach for a year at Western Kentucky.  While he hardly turned around the program in his first year, his team was consistently competitive in the second half of the season and clearly made strides from earlier years (mirroring Harbaugh\'s first year here).  And Taggert had a reputation as a recruiting whiz.  

My only misgiving about reaching out to Taggert is the move smacks of USC sending Kiffin to Tennessee for one year, only to grab him back and leave Tenn. in a jam.  But I do think Taggert would be a great choice for Stanford, and he does have at least one year of coaching experience, which is valuable since the first year at any new position is the most challenging and he now has at least some experience to draw from.

[ealtice]

Like all of us, I hope Harbaugh ends up staying for the next decade or so.  But, if he doesn\'t, I want a Harbaugh-trained coach, someone familiar with the culture JH has been able to establish with this program, and also someone who is capable of recruiting high-quality recruits to Stanford.  JH has gone a long way toward closing the talent-gap on the field.  One name that jumps to mind is Willie Taggert, the former JH assistant who has been head coach for a year at Western Kentucky.  While he hardly turned around the program in his first year, his team was consistently competitive in the second half of the season and clearly made strides from earlier years (mirroring Harbaugh\'s first year here).  And Taggert had a reputation as a recruiting whiz.  

My only misgiving about reaching out to Taggert is the move smacks of USC sending Kiffin to Tennessee for one year, only to grab him back and leave Tenn. in a jam.  But I do think Taggert would be a great choice for Stanford, and he does have at least one year of coaching experience, which is valuable since the first year at any new position is the most challenging and he now has at least some experience to draw from.