[Oasis]

I thought the Yale-Harvard game was very entertaining and compared well with non-Ivy games.  The Journal had an interesting article on Harvard football on Friday.  http://online.wsj.com/articles/how-harva...416499613 

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

[Oasis]

I thought the Yale-Harvard game was very entertaining and compared well with non-Ivy games.  The Journal had an interesting article on Harvard football on Friday.  http://online.wsj.com/articles/how-harva...416499613 

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

[yvonne]

The Ivies play in FCS, but do not participate in the playoff. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/5...eague-fcs/

[yvonne]

The Ivies play in FCS, but do not participate in the playoff. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/5...eague-fcs/

[Redrum]

But that doesn't mean those HS teams could compete with college teams.  So, too with the Ivies.  Oregon St. or Utah would clean their clocks.  Not knocking any kid or team of kids who suit up to play. They have my respect, but let's not come completely loose from our moorings when figuring where the Ivy schools fit in the football universe.

And...don't forget that the Nick Saban (or, insert your own favorite analog here) of Ivy League football currently is: Buddy Teevens.

[Redrum]

But that doesn't mean those HS teams could compete with college teams.  So, too with the Ivies.  Oregon St. or Utah would clean their clocks.  Not knocking any kid or team of kids who suit up to play. They have my respect, but let's not come completely loose from our moorings when figuring where the Ivy schools fit in the football universe.

And...don't forget that the Nick Saban (or, insert your own favorite analog here) of Ivy League football currently is: Buddy Teevens.

[Oasis]

After that Teevens comment I take it all back.

[Oasis]

After that Teevens comment I take it all back.

[Bruce Wang]

Even their students admit WIM is right: hedge funds with an university sidecar.

[Bruce Wang]

Even their students admit WIM is right: hedge funds with an university sidecar.

[Bruce Wang]

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

This is a very bad idea for us.  There are only so many D-1A players that can also play school. We have no margin to share.

[Bruce Wang]

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

This is a very bad idea for us.  There are only so many D-1A players that can also play school. We have no margin to share.

[theashwineffect]

I thought the Yale-Harvard game was very entertaining and compared well with non-Ivy games.  The Journal had an interesting article on Harvard football on Friday.  http://online.wsj.com/articles/how-harva...416499613 

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

I'm going to highlight that last part, "The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford."

Find me one physically AND academically inclined recruit (Besides Blake Barker, class of 2010 4* TE recruit, who chose Harvard after committing to us, played at Harvard for a half a season, before becoming full time lacrosse player) who chose Harvard over Stanford for football, basketball, or another high-level press sport.

Stanford is in its own class when it comes to the (venn diagram) overlap between academic and athletic, in that it completely owns the overlap between the highest level athletes and those that can qualify.

It's not even comically close + we have world class engineering departments that Harvard and Yale don't even remotely have.

I understand the perception-based references between us and the Ivies, but they don't hold a candle to us in terms of holistic competitiveness, because they don't even bother holistically competing at the levels that Stanford does.

Damn proud to be Cardinal. We're the best school in the world for this reason: we compete at the highest levels in every place that we can compete.

[theashwineffect]

I thought the Yale-Harvard game was very entertaining and compared well with non-Ivy games.  The Journal had an interesting article on Harvard football on Friday.  http://online.wsj.com/articles/how-harva...416499613 

The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford.  And Harvard is doing very well.  I hope the Ivies will consider bowls. 

I'm going to highlight that last part, "The upshot is that Harvard has so much money they can recruit nationally, probably going after guys we'd like to have at Stanford."

Find me one physically AND academically inclined recruit (Besides Blake Barker, class of 2010 4* TE recruit, who chose Harvard after committing to us, played at Harvard for a half a season, before becoming full time lacrosse player) who chose Harvard over Stanford for football, basketball, or another high-level press sport.

Stanford is in its own class when it comes to the (venn diagram) overlap between academic and athletic, in that it completely owns the overlap between the highest level athletes and those that can qualify.

It's not even comically close + we have world class engineering departments that Harvard and Yale don't even remotely have.

I understand the perception-based references between us and the Ivies, but they don't hold a candle to us in terms of holistic competitiveness, because they don't even bother holistically competing at the levels that Stanford does.

Damn proud to be Cardinal. We're the best school in the world for this reason: we compete at the highest levels in every place that we can compete.

[JohnR34231]

FWIW, Yale did beat Army this year.

[JohnR34231]

FWIW, Yale did beat Army this year.