[theashwineffect]

Leaving the Columbia football program as abruptly as he did.

http://deadspin.com/columbia-footballers...1666801499

[theashwineffect]

Leaving the Columbia football program as abruptly as he did.

http://deadspin.com/columbia-footballers...1666801499

[fullmetal]

It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

[fullmetal]

It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

[Scooter_Stepford]

This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure. 

[Scooter_Stepford]

This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure. 

[76lsjumb]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure.
[/quote]

Really?  He must have been 5 years old then.  Or he uses a lot of Grecian formula...

[76lsjumb]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure.
[/quote]

Really?  He must have been 5 years old then.  Or he uses a lot of Grecian formula...

[StanFan88]

It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

[StanFan88]

It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

[82 Card]

[quote author=Scooter_Stepford link=topic=11280.msg107461#msg107461 date=1417739138]
[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure.
[/quote]

Really?  He must have been 5 years old then.  Or he uses a lot of Grecian formula...
[/quote]

Must be Grecian Formula. Born June 17, 1955 according to Wikipedia.

[82 Card]

[quote author=Scooter_Stepford link=topic=11280.msg107461#msg107461 date=1417739138]
[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

The Columbia coach was an OL coach at Stanford during Coach Wiggin's tenure.
[/quote]

Really?  He must have been 5 years old then.  Or he uses a lot of Grecian formula...
[/quote]

Must be Grecian Formula. Born June 17, 1955 according to Wikipedia.

[fullmetal]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.
[/quote]

I was thinking that the coach chose to portray Nottingham's actions as such.  What if Nottingham did respond, but the coach chose to ignore it?  No recourse there.  And it wouldn't be out of this coach's character to twist the facts...what a sad situation.

[fullmetal]

[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11280.msg107443#msg107443 date=1417733045]
It doesn't even sound like Nottingham left the program so much as he was forced out of the program, according to the article.  This coach is a piece of work...a real character.  Worst than that Wlat dude if he forced his players to play through concussions (haven't heard that about Harris).

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.
[/quote]

I was thinking that the coach chose to portray Nottingham's actions as such.  What if Nottingham did respond, but the coach chose to ignore it?  No recourse there.  And it wouldn't be out of this coach's character to twist the facts...what a sad situation.

[Redrum]

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

Actually, it's just the opposite of childish.  In any government or business endeavor, not all departures or splits are harmonious.  The most gracious way to inform the public is to be brief and generally positive  OR brief and neutral.  Another, equally respectful, is to just say nothing.  That is respectable: not taking personal shots at people or organizations on the way out.  The public-- you or I--are not owed any explanation.  Except in certain positions of public responsibility no explanation is required. 

Maybe Nottingham is how you describe him:  spoiled and a quitter.  But that would make his silence in this case all the more remarkable and mature.   

[Redrum]

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

Actually, it's just the opposite of childish.  In any government or business endeavor, not all departures or splits are harmonious.  The most gracious way to inform the public is to be brief and generally positive  OR brief and neutral.  Another, equally respectful, is to just say nothing.  That is respectable: not taking personal shots at people or organizations on the way out.  The public-- you or I--are not owed any explanation.  Except in certain positions of public responsibility no explanation is required. 

Maybe Nottingham is how you describe him:  spoiled and a quitter.  But that would make his silence in this case all the more remarkable and mature.   

[StanFan88]

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

Actually, it's just the opposite of childish.  In any government or business endeavor, not all departures or splits are harmonious.  The most gracious way to inform the public is to be brief and generally positive  OR brief and neutral.  Another, equally respectful, is to just say nothing.  That is respectable: not taking personal shots at people or organizations on the way out.  The public-- you or I--are not owed any explanation.  Except in certain positions of public responsibility no explanation is required. 

Maybe Nottingham is how you describe him:  spoiled and a quitter.  But that would make his silence in this case all the more remarkable and mature. 

Nottingham left two football programs because he was told he wouldn't be the starter (Stanford) and lost his starting job (Columbia).  It would have been very simple for Nottingham to issue a gracious, brief statement along the lines of, "I have decided to leave the Columbia football program for personal reasons but plan to finish my degree there (or enroll elsewhere to complete my degree).  I would like to thank my coaches and teammates and wish them the best of luck going forward."

That would be leaving with class and dignity.  To slink away silently is immature, considering he's done it twice.

[StanFan88]

Regardless of whether he was forced out or chose to leave, to simply not say anything is childish.  All the more evidence to me that he's a spoiled brat who quits when he doesn't get what he wants.  I hope he grows up someday.

Actually, it's just the opposite of childish.  In any government or business endeavor, not all departures or splits are harmonious.  The most gracious way to inform the public is to be brief and generally positive  OR brief and neutral.  Another, equally respectful, is to just say nothing.  That is respectable: not taking personal shots at people or organizations on the way out.  The public-- you or I--are not owed any explanation.  Except in certain positions of public responsibility no explanation is required. 

Maybe Nottingham is how you describe him:  spoiled and a quitter.  But that would make his silence in this case all the more remarkable and mature. 

Nottingham left two football programs because he was told he wouldn't be the starter (Stanford) and lost his starting job (Columbia).  It would have been very simple for Nottingham to issue a gracious, brief statement along the lines of, "I have decided to leave the Columbia football program for personal reasons but plan to finish my degree there (or enroll elsewhere to complete my degree).  I would like to thank my coaches and teammates and wish them the best of luck going forward."

That would be leaving with class and dignity.  To slink away silently is immature, considering he's done it twice.

[CowboyIndian]

I would like to thank my coaches ...... and wish them the best of luck going forward."

Now you want him to lie?

[CowboyIndian]

I would like to thank my coaches ...... and wish them the best of luck going forward."

Now you want him to lie?

[StanFan88]

[quote author=StanFan88 link=topic=11280.msg107529#msg107529 date=1417809748]
I would like to thank my coaches ...... and wish them the best of luck going forward."

Now you want him to lie?
[/quote]

If that's a lie then he's even more of a spoiled brat & quitter than I thought.

[StanFan88]

[quote author=StanFan88 link=topic=11280.msg107529#msg107529 date=1417809748]
I would like to thank my coaches ...... and wish them the best of luck going forward."

Now you want him to lie?
[/quote]

If that's a lie then he's even more of a spoiled brat & quitter than I thought.

[yvonne]

I think it's a bit early to tell whether Nottingham needs to grow up. The best way to tell is to wait until he's 47 and anonymously bashing 20-year-olds on message boards. That, truly is the sign of maturity.

[yvonne]

I think it's a bit early to tell whether Nottingham needs to grow up. The best way to tell is to wait until he's 47 and anonymously bashing 20-year-olds on message boards. That, truly is the sign of maturity.

[BostonCard]

I think it's a bit early to tell whether Nottingham needs to grow up. The best way to tell is to wait until he's 47 and anonymously bashing 20-year-olds on message boards. That, truly is the sign of maturity.

LOL, where's the upvote.

Thanks Yvonne for that.

BC

[BostonCard]

I think it's a bit early to tell whether Nottingham needs to grow up. The best way to tell is to wait until he's 47 and anonymously bashing 20-year-olds on message boards. That, truly is the sign of maturity.

LOL, where's the upvote.

Thanks Yvonne for that.

BC

[Rally]

I think the Nottingham shaming is despicable and has no place here.  Unless you know him personally you have no right to disrespect him in this way.  Better to look to your own maturity.  Geez.

[Rally]

I think the Nottingham shaming is despicable and has no place here.  Unless you know him personally you have no right to disrespect him in this way.  Better to look to your own maturity.  Geez.

[StanFan88]

I **DID** meet both him and his dad...seemed like a decent kid but there was definitely an air of something not quite right.  A little bit of Todd Marinovich maybe

And he is associated with my alma mater, and I think his behavior does not reflect well on it.

I hope he grows up, because if he leaves a job like that he will be burning bridges that he may not be able to repair.

[StanFan88]

I **DID** meet both him and his dad...seemed like a decent kid but there was definitely an air of something not quite right.  A little bit of Todd Marinovich maybe

And he is associated with my alma mater, and I think his behavior does not reflect well on it.

I hope he grows up, because if he leaves a job like that he will be burning bridges that he may not be able to repair.

[CowboyIndian]

I **DID** meet both him and his dad...seemed like a decent kid but there was definitely an air of something not quite right.  A little bit of Todd Marinovich maybe

And he is associated with my alma mater, and I think his behavior does not reflect well on it.

I hope he grows up, because if he leaves a job like that he will be burning bridges that he may not be able to repair.

Why is it any of your goddam business and why do you give a damn in the first place? This strong a reaction seems to reflect more on you than on him. You passed inappropriate a few exits back.

[CowboyIndian]

I **DID** meet both him and his dad...seemed like a decent kid but there was definitely an air of something not quite right.  A little bit of Todd Marinovich maybe

And he is associated with my alma mater, and I think his behavior does not reflect well on it.

I hope he grows up, because if he leaves a job like that he will be burning bridges that he may not be able to repair.

Why is it any of your goddam business and why do you give a damn in the first place? This strong a reaction seems to reflect more on you than on him. You passed inappropriate a few exits back.

[Redrum]

Turns out, without a word of explanation, Columbia (now "former") Coach Mangurian resigns.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/05/columbia-university-mangurian-resigns_n_6277394.html

[Redrum]

Turns out, without a word of explanation, Columbia (now "former") Coach Mangurian resigns.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/05/columbia-university-mangurian-resigns_n_6277394.html

[CowboyIndian]

Turns out, without a word of explanation, Columbia (now "former") Coach Mangurian resigns.

He's a quitter. I hope he grows up someday.

[CowboyIndian]

Turns out, without a word of explanation, Columbia (now "former") Coach Mangurian resigns.

He's a quitter. I hope he grows up someday.