[Rally]

Although I'm sure many have done this, it doesn't bode well IMHO.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/24393...tour-diary

[Rally]

Although I'm sure many have done this, it doesn't bode well IMHO.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/24393...tour-diary

[washingtonismoney]

...why?

[washingtonismoney]

...why?

[Rally]

...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.

[Rally]

...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.

[washingtonismoney]

On rooming with non-athletes:

It was cool hanging out with the players. They're a good group of guys and funny too.

I was supposed to stay with McCaffrey but ended up spending the night in Perez's dorm room. Unlike a lot of schools, Stanford athletes actually live with non-athletes while in campus dorms.

They encourage athletes to integrate with the entire student body. Sometimes you could be living with someone on the verge of doing something groundbreaking, so you better make sure to become friends. There are a lot of smart people at Stanford.

The room was set up really efficiently, so there was space for me to sleep on a pull-out couch.

This sounds neutral-to-positive on rooming with athletes. "Oh man, I hate rooming with smart people who might do something groundbreaking" is not a sentiment you hear terribly often.

On class:

It was a pretty interesting course that focused on the study of sleep cycles. I was tired from all the traveling and actually fell asleep during that class.

I know, it was ironic.

Falling asleep in an 8 a.m. class...sounds like an awful lot of Stanford students I've known in my day. And correctly using the word "ironic" indicates someone...who's more likely a Stanford type of guy than not.

So I'm not sure I agree 100% with your police work there, Lou.

[washingtonismoney]

On rooming with non-athletes:

It was cool hanging out with the players. They're a good group of guys and funny too.

I was supposed to stay with McCaffrey but ended up spending the night in Perez's dorm room. Unlike a lot of schools, Stanford athletes actually live with non-athletes while in campus dorms.

They encourage athletes to integrate with the entire student body. Sometimes you could be living with someone on the verge of doing something groundbreaking, so you better make sure to become friends. There are a lot of smart people at Stanford.

The room was set up really efficiently, so there was space for me to sleep on a pull-out couch.

This sounds neutral-to-positive on rooming with athletes. "Oh man, I hate rooming with smart people who might do something groundbreaking" is not a sentiment you hear terribly often.

On class:

It was a pretty interesting course that focused on the study of sleep cycles. I was tired from all the traveling and actually fell asleep during that class.

I know, it was ironic.

Falling asleep in an 8 a.m. class...sounds like an awful lot of Stanford students I've known in my day. And correctly using the word "ironic" indicates someone...who's more likely a Stanford type of guy than not.

So I'm not sure I agree 100% with your police work there, Lou.

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12082.msg117545#msg117545 date=1430526029]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.
[/quote]

And falling asleep in class?

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12082.msg117545#msg117545 date=1430526029]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.
[/quote]

And falling asleep in class?

[BostonCard]

Based on my own personal experience, he'd fit right in.

BC

[BostonCard]

Based on my own personal experience, he'd fit right in.

BC

[pefloresjr]

I saw this a few days ago and felt that he was interested in Stanford but he seemed to be more excited about some of the other schools.  There were no happy photos of him hanging out from Stanford. However, he seems to be approaching the search in a systematic way and will lhopefully decide based on a lot more than a few impressions I got from selected portions of his travel journal.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[pefloresjr]

I saw this a few days ago and felt that he was interested in Stanford but he seemed to be more excited about some of the other schools.  There were no happy photos of him hanging out from Stanford. However, he seems to be approaching the search in a systematic way and will lhopefully decide based on a lot more than a few impressions I got from selected portions of his travel journal.
Cheers,
Pete F.

[Rally]

I give up.  Consider him a lock.

[Rally]

I give up.  Consider him a lock.

[socalstanfan1]

I read this article a few days ago and had a very mixed reaction, but not as positive as I hoped. He seemed most upbeat about USC, both the offer and his interactions with Tee Martin. On the other hand, he clearly spent more time at Stanford than elsewhere.

Hopeful, but a bit less optimistic than before I saw the article.

[socalstanfan1]

I read this article a few days ago and had a very mixed reaction, but not as positive as I hoped. He seemed most upbeat about USC, both the offer and his interactions with Tee Martin. On the other hand, he clearly spent more time at Stanford than elsewhere.

Hopeful, but a bit less optimistic than before I saw the article.

[Mick]

[quote author=ThePassionOfTheChryst link=topic=12082.msg117546#msg117546 date=1430528981]
[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12082.msg117545#msg117545 date=1430526029]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.
[/quote]

And falling asleep in class?
[/quote]

I think if you looked at the bell curve of my grades, my two 8 a.m. classes had the worst grades.  Neither of my sons took 8 a.m. classes (one of them had a 10 a.m. class as his earliest class, and he complained about that).  So I'm not all that concerned about someone who drops off in an 8 a.m. class.  And his comments on non-athletes seem pretty right on with respect to what most athletes (and other well-lopsided candidates) seem to think about the standard world-class student at Stanford.

Not a lock, for sure.  But we used to say that if we could get them to visit, they would come. 

Judging from the look in his eyes, my youngest definitely had that feeling.  Sort of the opposite of the feeling he had at U$ :o, when he was frowning and shaking his head from the moment he stepped on the campus.  Five minutes in: "Just so you know, I'm not coming here."  Older son said he'd rather go to a JC for two years than U$ :o, and he'd had three very close friends go there.

[Mick]

[quote author=ThePassionOfTheChryst link=topic=12082.msg117546#msg117546 date=1430528981]
[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12082.msg117545#msg117545 date=1430526029]
[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=12082.msg117544#msg117544 date=1430523670]
...why?

Didn't seem to like the idea of rooming with non athletes and, mostly, fell asleep in class.  Really just making a joke about falling asleep while trying to make a good impression.
[/quote]
I actually didn't glean any of that.  To me he seemed nonplussed about the idea of rooming with non-athletes.
[/quote]

And falling asleep in class?
[/quote]

I think if you looked at the bell curve of my grades, my two 8 a.m. classes had the worst grades.  Neither of my sons took 8 a.m. classes (one of them had a 10 a.m. class as his earliest class, and he complained about that).  So I'm not all that concerned about someone who drops off in an 8 a.m. class.  And his comments on non-athletes seem pretty right on with respect to what most athletes (and other well-lopsided candidates) seem to think about the standard world-class student at Stanford.

Not a lock, for sure.  But we used to say that if we could get them to visit, they would come. 

Judging from the look in his eyes, my youngest definitely had that feeling.  Sort of the opposite of the feeling he had at U$ :o, when he was frowning and shaking his head from the moment he stepped on the campus.  Five minutes in: "Just so you know, I'm not coming here."  Older son said he'd rather go to a JC for two years than U$ :o, and he'd had three very close friends go there.

[Hulk01]

Josh is a 4.0 student from a family that stresses academics.

He has called ours "my dream offer," and ranked us with Ohio State as his leader--even before we offered.  (And Ohio State had.)

He's visited us in each of the last three years, coming all the way from Georgia at his family's expense.

He loved his visit.  Loved.

And he knows that Stanford stresses big receivers, while USC runs a yard-after-the-catch offense.  And he sees what SC's approach has done for the NFL careers of Robert Woods and Marqise Lee, which is remarkably little considering their elite status entering college. 

We're in excellent shape here.

[Hulk01]

Josh is a 4.0 student from a family that stresses academics.

He has called ours "my dream offer," and ranked us with Ohio State as his leader--even before we offered.  (And Ohio State had.)

He's visited us in each of the last three years, coming all the way from Georgia at his family's expense.

He loved his visit.  Loved.

And he knows that Stanford stresses big receivers, while USC runs a yard-after-the-catch offense.  And he sees what SC's approach has done for the NFL careers of Robert Woods and Marqise Lee, which is remarkably little considering their elite status entering college. 

We're in excellent shape here.

[Rally]

I WAS JUST KIDDINGLY!  Mea culpa :(

[Rally]

I WAS JUST KIDDINGLY!  Mea culpa :(

[Rally]

It's too late. If we don't get him, it'll all be your fault. And if we do, we'll all scream "I told you so!" for the next 20 years. Pretty sure the only way out involves Kool Aid.

Any particular flavor?  But, Hey!  He probably can't kick anyway.

[Rally]

It's too late. If we don't get him, it'll all be your fault. And if we do, we'll all scream "I told you so!" for the next 20 years. Pretty sure the only way out involves Kool Aid.

Any particular flavor?  But, Hey!  He probably can't kick anyway.

[threepointer]

On the topic of 8 am classes....they are going the way of the slide rule.

When students began to rate professors online and anonymous the professors quickly figured out that teaching a class at 8 am was a kiss of death.  No one wants to take a class at 8 am and no one wants to teach a class at 8 am.

It's just one of the reasons for the building boom at Stanford. 

Yes, there is a lot more research going on in a lot more areas.  But there are now more classrooms.  So many more classes are being held at 10 am and later. 

A simple example of supply and demand.

[threepointer]

On the topic of 8 am classes....they are going the way of the slide rule.

When students began to rate professors online and anonymous the professors quickly figured out that teaching a class at 8 am was a kiss of death.  No one wants to take a class at 8 am and no one wants to teach a class at 8 am.

It's just one of the reasons for the building boom at Stanford. 

Yes, there is a lot more research going on in a lot more areas.  But there are now more classrooms.  So many more classes are being held at 10 am and later. 

A simple example of supply and demand.

[81alum]

These things are mostly a matter of economic status.

At a university where a lot of students work, early morning classes are still sometimes popular, since some students like to finish school early enough to go to an afternoon job, and since working-class students are simply used to having to get up for jobs, summer work, the school bus, etc. 

But I have noticed as my university has become much more selective with admissions, student willingness to come to early morning classes has gone down.  I am sure part of it is general cultural change--the proliferation of the internet and online social media/video gaming has destroyed a lot of sleep schedules.  But I also think that working class kids tend to be more disciplined.

In any case, I used to teach 730am classes--no longer.  My students now complain that my 1030 class is too early.

[81alum]

These things are mostly a matter of economic status.

At a university where a lot of students work, early morning classes are still sometimes popular, since some students like to finish school early enough to go to an afternoon job, and since working-class students are simply used to having to get up for jobs, summer work, the school bus, etc. 

But I have noticed as my university has become much more selective with admissions, student willingness to come to early morning classes has gone down.  I am sure part of it is general cultural change--the proliferation of the internet and online social media/video gaming has destroyed a lot of sleep schedules.  But I also think that working class kids tend to be more disciplined.

In any case, I used to teach 730am classes--no longer.  My students now complain that my 1030 class is too early.

[FarmBoy]

We watched McFarland USA over the weekend. It was amazing to see these kids get up at 5AM to go pick in the field, then do a full day of class, then run cross country practice then go back to the field to pick some more. Man, I had it easy, for sure. And my kids even more so.

[FarmBoy]

We watched McFarland USA over the weekend. It was amazing to see these kids get up at 5AM to go pick in the field, then do a full day of class, then run cross country practice then go back to the field to pick some more. Man, I had it easy, for sure. And my kids even more so.

[Mick]

[quote author=threepointer link=topic=12082.msg117623#msg117623 date=1430711358]
On the topic of 8 am classes....they are going the way of the slide rule.

When students began to rate professors online and anonymous the professors quickly figured out that teaching a class at 8 am was a kiss of death.  No one wants to take a class at 8 am and no one wants to teach a class at 8 am.

It's just one of the reasons for the building boom at Stanford. 

Yes, there is a lot more research going on in a lot more areas.  But there are now more classrooms.  So many more classes are being held at 10 am and later. 

A simple example of supply and demand.

I will never forget my shock at discovering that, although I had a 30 min commute, my first boss expected me at work at 8 and sneered when I was later than 7:30.  Cruel world for a newly wed :)
[/quote]

Reminds me of three things:

* My first firm had a 3Com network, and we networked the building ourselves.  The boss told me to show up Saturday morning.  I arrived at 8:00 a.m.  Everyone else got there at 6:00, and it was already done.

* At that first job, I didn't arrive after 7:00 a.m. or leave before 6:00 p.m. my first six months.  I had a successful eight year run with that company.  My successor was much less successful, and the bosses asked me to talk with her to uncover why.  First words out of her mouth were "Look, I have a life," meaning one outside work.  She further informed me that her commitment was 40 hours per week, and that did not mean 40 hours and 10 minutes.

* About five years after I graduated, my college roommate and I created a series of seminars for the seniors at SCU, designed to help them transition more easily and successfully and to make it less of an ice-bath-plunge shock.  Our title?  "The Real World is an 8 a.m. Class That Lasts All Day."  Not sure what happened to that series, but if Gen-Xers didn't kill it, the Millenials sure did.

[Mick]

[quote author=threepointer link=topic=12082.msg117623#msg117623 date=1430711358]
On the topic of 8 am classes....they are going the way of the slide rule.

When students began to rate professors online and anonymous the professors quickly figured out that teaching a class at 8 am was a kiss of death.  No one wants to take a class at 8 am and no one wants to teach a class at 8 am.

It's just one of the reasons for the building boom at Stanford. 

Yes, there is a lot more research going on in a lot more areas.  But there are now more classrooms.  So many more classes are being held at 10 am and later. 

A simple example of supply and demand.

I will never forget my shock at discovering that, although I had a 30 min commute, my first boss expected me at work at 8 and sneered when I was later than 7:30.  Cruel world for a newly wed :)
[/quote]

Reminds me of three things:

* My first firm had a 3Com network, and we networked the building ourselves.  The boss told me to show up Saturday morning.  I arrived at 8:00 a.m.  Everyone else got there at 6:00, and it was already done.

* At that first job, I didn't arrive after 7:00 a.m. or leave before 6:00 p.m. my first six months.  I had a successful eight year run with that company.  My successor was much less successful, and the bosses asked me to talk with her to uncover why.  First words out of her mouth were "Look, I have a life," meaning one outside work.  She further informed me that her commitment was 40 hours per week, and that did not mean 40 hours and 10 minutes.

* About five years after I graduated, my college roommate and I created a series of seminars for the seniors at SCU, designed to help them transition more easily and successfully and to make it less of an ice-bath-plunge shock.  Our title?  "The Real World is an 8 a.m. Class That Lasts All Day."  Not sure what happened to that series, but if Gen-Xers didn't kill it, the Millenials sure did.

[Hulk01]

Different folks.  I always scheduled 8 am classes to ensure I got up early.  Guess I was driven.  But my memory is that my dorms got quieter after 10:30 pm and were almost silent after 11:30.

[Hulk01]

Different folks.  I always scheduled 8 am classes to ensure I got up early.  Guess I was driven.  But my memory is that my dorms got quieter after 10:30 pm and were almost silent after 11:30.

[stupac2]

But my memory is that my dorms got quieter after 10:30 pm and were almost silent after 11:30.

Definitely not the case during my time. My senior year I was consistently annoyed by one of the A Capella groups practicing in the common room (right next to my room) until 11 or so. Not late for most people, but I was trying to sleep...

[stupac2]

But my memory is that my dorms got quieter after 10:30 pm and were almost silent after 11:30.

Definitely not the case during my time. My senior year I was consistently annoyed by one of the A Capella groups practicing in the common room (right next to my room) until 11 or so. Not late for most people, but I was trying to sleep...