(09-17-2018, 04:47 PM)Trevmiesterj Wrote: NDIrish-
While you are waiting to post thoughts, speculations and expectations on the TBD Tree vs Fighrish contest, considering reading an earlier season Cardboard thread entitled "Why schedule Notre Dame?"
I would be interested in a Notre Dame fan's, Honorable Heathen, Distinguished Foreigner thoughts on the rivalry.
https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...#pid227799
Alot of interesting opinions in there. (although i think the original post was right that its 7-2 the last 9 years lol). i havent ever really thought about whether or not we should play this game. Although this is a relatively short history (no. 10 on list of most matchups) its been played pretty much every year ive been a fan (born 85). i think its really put out some great games.
I agree with a lot of the pros and cons that were listed. Although, i do think that ND needs this game more than stanford does. As long as ND remains independent, they are going to need games like this to justify their worth. ND also gets a good recruiting boost playing out in California, not much of a boost for stanford to come to south bend. i think for an out of conference opponent, its a good game for stanford. Although, this is all largely assuming both teams stay solid. For this players, i think its a good experience for both teams.
i guess i would say its worth keeping for both teams. For the winning team, its a solid win for your resume, if you lose, it can be a good lost against a "rival". Also for stanford, it doesn't count as a loss against any specific conference, i.e. "well they can't even survive in the XXX conference because they lost to team X." it is largely broadcast as an academic and athletic rival (especially when in SB), and whereas Stanford has a much higher global prestige as far as academics go, i think for an average college football player, it would be comparable. Opportunities at Stanford are greater, but if a player is just looking to please their mom with a good degree and play football, that can be done at both.
Some people had commented on the vacated wins... that is a complete load of bs. I am still stunned that happened. ND self reported, pulled the players from the team, followed every step they were suppose to, and get hit with that? A number of other universities get caught hiding the truth and finding ways to allow players to play and get 0 punishments for far worse crimes.
i know ND gets a lot of crap for remaining independent, but i think they do schedule hard enough to remain that way. I go back and forth on whether or not they need to join a conference, but you can't really say they are taking the easy way out right now, if anything, it is harder. Now, so far this year, Florida state and usc have not panned out to be very good teams, but its hard to argue going into the year that a schedule that sees michigan, stanford, usc, virginia tech, florida state as your tier 1 games and your tier 2 include northwester, vandy, pitt, navy and teir 3 as wake forest, syracuse and ball state as anything but a tough schedule.
