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WHERE STANDS THE PAC-12 AFTER WEEK ONE?
Clearly, Ducks folding late (again) was the tragedy of the weekend.
Some mags already had WASH vs UTAH in the Title game out West...
In part because Utes do not play Oregon or Stanford in season.
UTAH must visit Seattle Oct 19 for a possible preview. But, their Home sched is favorable in the South.

Based on opening week...
Looks like WASH vs UTAH for Pac12 Champ game (again), until they are beaten.
Still, in 2017 -- we survived the visit to SLC, and beat #8 WASH in PA for the North to make the title game
* QB Eason had Large opener (against inferior EWAS), with dangerous receivers (Fuller, McClatcher) behind a big OLine. No injuries.
* UTAH has a complete team, with a strong defense. RB Zach Moss is a stud; That Defense will keep them in every game.
* WAST: Tore up NMST, 58-7 -- the mad pirate is a genius to take new QBs and still pile up yardage with the Air Raid. Both QBs >90 QBR.
Going to Pullman in Nov, not fun. We need a RUN game to keep Cougs off field.
* OREG still can't finish games. Blew it against AUBN. Very quick on Defense. Potent offense with Herbert.
Duck loss really hurt the entire Pac12 -- just like 2018 when Huskies bowed to AUBN.
* KAL stumbled out of the gate, but got it together in 2H against AA-level UC Davis.
Good defense and signs of an Offense, but Garbers is the shakiest QB in the league.
* UCLA still sucks on Defense, but away at CINC is a tough opener.
And their QB DTRobinson put in a very scattered performance at just 8 for 26, 150y with 2 TDs, 2 INTs.
Chip Kelly has not righted the ship, but their best rusher Josh Kelley was sidelined (knee).
* ZONA lacks a Defense also, losing @HAWI. Cats vs Bruins might be a basketball score.
* USC played sloppy against a weak FRES team, but brings plenty of skill players as usual, especially at WR, RB.
QB JT Daniels out with knee injury; we get rookie Slovis at QB.
Game next week in Troy goes to team that can gain Offensive rhythm. Maybe turnovers.
Trojans gave up 460 yards to FRES.
Adebo again served notice, total ball hawk. Paulson-o-Raptor. CB Adebo vs WR Vaughn is the showdown.

Frankly I like our Quartet out wide: M.Wilson (stud YAC TD), Fehoko, O.StBrown, and Wedington.
Will KJ be back bcuz he walked off the field, or concussion protocol? JT Daniels was carted off.
What about OT Walker Little, our best OLine guy?
Our Defense played much better than anticipated, up front, with big sacks and turnovers.
Still not totally in gear at Safety, but this unit is better than last year already.

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WHERE STANDS THE PAC-12 AFTER WEEK ONE?
Clearly, Ducks folding late (again) was the tragedy of the weekend.
Some mags already had WASH vs UTAH in the Title game out West...
In part because Utes do not play Oregon or Stanford in season.
UTAH must visit Seattle Oct 19 for a possible preview. But, their Home sched is favorable in the South.

Based on opening week...
Looks like WASH vs UTAH for Pac12 Champ game (again), until they are beaten.
Still, in 2017 -- we survived the visit to SLC, and beat #8 WASH in PA for the North to make the title game
* QB Eason had Large opener (against inferior EWAS), with dangerous receivers (Fuller, McClatcher) behind a big OLine. No injuries.
* UTAH has a complete team, with a strong defense. RB Zach Moss is a stud; That Defense will keep them in every game.
* WAST: Tore up NMST, 58-7 -- the mad pirate is a genius to take new QBs and still pile up yardage with the Air Raid. Both QBs >90 QBR.
Going to Pullman in Nov, not fun. We need a RUN game to keep Cougs off field.
* OREG still can't finish games. Blew it against AUBN. Very quick on Defense. Potent offense with Herbert.
Duck loss really hurt the entire Pac12 -- just like 2018 when Huskies bowed to AUBN.
* KAL stumbled out of the gate, but got it together in 2H against AA-level UC Davis.
Good defense and signs of an Offense, but Garbers is the shakiest QB in the league.
* UCLA still sucks on Defense, but away at CINC is a tough opener.
And their QB DTRobinson put in a very scattered performance at just 8 for 26, 150y with 2 TDs, 2 INTs.
Chip Kelly has not righted the ship, but their best rusher Josh Kelley was sidelined (knee).
* ZONA lacks a Defense also, losing @HAWI. Cats vs Bruins might be a basketball score.
* USC played sloppy against a weak FRES team, but brings plenty of skill players as usual, especially at WR, RB.
QB JT Daniels out with knee injury; we get rookie Slovis at QB.
Game next week in Troy goes to team that can gain Offensive rhythm. Maybe turnovers.
Trojans gave up 460 yards to FRES.
Adebo again served notice, total ball hawk. Paulson-o-Raptor. CB Adebo vs WR Vaughn is the showdown.

Frankly I like our Quartet out wide: M.Wilson (stud YAC TD), Fehoko, O.StBrown, and Wedington.
Will KJ be back bcuz he walked off the field, or concussion protocol? JT Daniels was carted off.
What about OT Walker Little, our best OLine guy?
Our Defense played much better than anticipated, up front, with big sacks and turnovers.
Still not totally in gear at Safety, but this unit is better than last year already.

[fullmetal]

Oregon vs. Auburn -- That second half rushing yardage was brutal (something like 14 for Oregon and 143 for Auburn). We need Walker Little back, and we need part of the Stanford offensive identity to be rooted in healthy run-blocking.

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

[fullmetal]

Oregon vs. Auburn -- That second half rushing yardage was brutal (something like 14 for Oregon and 143 for Auburn). We need Walker Little back, and we need part of the Stanford offensive identity to be rooted in healthy run-blocking.

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

[CTcard]

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

Well, in significant non-conf play ...

ACC: Louisville loses to und, Duke loses to Alabama, UNC beats South Carolina, Miami lost to Florida, FSU lost to Boise

Big 12: there was no significant non-conf play

Big Ten: Northwestern lost to Stanford

SEC: Auburn beat Oregon, Alabama beats Duke, Florida beats Miami, South Carolina loses to UNC.
Plus, in non-significant non-conf play Tenn loses to Ga Southern, Mizzou loses to Wyoming, Mississippi loses to Memphis.


By all rights no conference should be getting much respect; except perhaps the upper half of the SEC.

[CTcard]

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

Well, in significant non-conf play ...

ACC: Louisville loses to und, Duke loses to Alabama, UNC beats South Carolina, Miami lost to Florida, FSU lost to Boise

Big 12: there was no significant non-conf play

Big Ten: Northwestern lost to Stanford

SEC: Auburn beat Oregon, Alabama beats Duke, Florida beats Miami, South Carolina loses to UNC.
Plus, in non-significant non-conf play Tenn loses to Ga Southern, Mizzou loses to Wyoming, Mississippi loses to Memphis.


By all rights no conference should be getting much respect; except perhaps the upper half of the SEC.

[Spiny_Norman]

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia - those schools just look to be on a different plane than everyone else talent-wise including schools in their own conferences.

The P12 looks like the rest of the ACC minus Clemson. Or the SEC East minus Georgia.

[Spiny_Norman]

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia - those schools just look to be on a different plane than everyone else talent-wise including schools in their own conferences.

The P12 looks like the rest of the ACC minus Clemson. Or the SEC East minus Georgia.

[Believer]

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

Well, in significant non-conf play ...

ACC: Louisville loses to und, Duke loses to Alabama, UNC beats South Carolina, Miami lost to Florida, FSU lost to Boise

Big 12: there was no significant non-conf play

Big Ten: Northwestern lost to Stanford

SEC: Auburn beat Oregon, Alabama beats Duke, Florida beats Miami, South Carolina loses to UNC.
Plus, in non-significant non-conf play Tenn loses to Ga Southern, Mizzou loses to Wyoming, Mississippi loses to Memphis.


By all rights no conference should be getting much respect; except perhaps the upper half of the SEC.

Ya, and Tennessee loses to Georgia Southern? SEC lost 4 out of 14 games to an arguably much softer schedule of non conference games. PAC lost 3 of 12,one of which was to Auburn,,,too early to give respect to any one conference yet.

[Believer]

In significant non-conf play, Oregon loses to Auburn and Stanford beats Northwestern. I don't see the Pac-12 getting much respect this year (as if I were expecting otherwise).

Well, in significant non-conf play ...

ACC: Louisville loses to und, Duke loses to Alabama, UNC beats South Carolina, Miami lost to Florida, FSU lost to Boise

Big 12: there was no significant non-conf play

Big Ten: Northwestern lost to Stanford

SEC: Auburn beat Oregon, Alabama beats Duke, Florida beats Miami, South Carolina loses to UNC.
Plus, in non-significant non-conf play Tenn loses to Ga Southern, Mizzou loses to Wyoming, Mississippi loses to Memphis.


By all rights no conference should be getting much respect; except perhaps the upper half of the SEC.

Ya, and Tennessee loses to Georgia Southern? SEC lost 4 out of 14 games to an arguably much softer schedule of non conference games. PAC lost 3 of 12,one of which was to Auburn,,,too early to give respect to any one conference yet.

[TreesAndBirds]

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Co...35128355_2


Per ESPN power rankings best pac12 school at #12 (Utah). Stanford at #20. 5 pac12 teams between 12-25.


And here is the coaches poll

https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

[TreesAndBirds]

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Co...35128355_2


Per ESPN power rankings best pac12 school at #12 (Utah). Stanford at #20. 5 pac12 teams between 12-25.


And here is the coaches poll

https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

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UTAH could run the table (cuz they don't play us or Oregon -- LARGE), but for a visit to Seattle on Nov. 2.
Everything else sets up well for them in league... .except strength of schedule, which will not lift them into the Top 4.

So if UTAH finishes 12-1... I still think they get shut out because ESPN has already settled on:
#1 CLEM vs #4 BAMA plus #2 MICH (or OHST) vs #3 GEOR (maybe LSU).
-- NastyDame was a BIG bust last year, getting slammed by CLEM 30-3.
-- OHST 2015 showed what a B1G team can do in the CFP. [Albeit against... a Pac12 team]
That is the RATINGS BONANZA MEGA-BONUS BONANZA for the Studio Execs.
UTAH? Meh. So, Utes after defeating WASH would get the MICH / OHST loser in the Rose Bowl.
Lotta Utes renting hotels and buying meals in Pasadena. They have NEVER been.

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UTAH could run the table (cuz they don't play us or Oregon -- LARGE), but for a visit to Seattle on Nov. 2.
Everything else sets up well for them in league... .except strength of schedule, which will not lift them into the Top 4.

So if UTAH finishes 12-1... I still think they get shut out because ESPN has already settled on:
#1 CLEM vs #4 BAMA plus #2 MICH (or OHST) vs #3 GEOR (maybe LSU).
-- NastyDame was a BIG bust last year, getting slammed by CLEM 30-3.
-- OHST 2015 showed what a B1G team can do in the CFP. [Albeit against... a Pac12 team]
That is the RATINGS BONANZA MEGA-BONUS BONANZA for the Studio Execs.
UTAH? Meh. So, Utes after defeating WASH would get the MICH / OHST loser in the Rose Bowl.
Lotta Utes renting hotels and buying meals in Pasadena. They have NEVER been.

[BostonCard]

Remember under those circumstances, Utah has to play UW twice (or Oregon or, with any luck, Stanford) in the pac-12 championships, so they could easily be 11-2. Plus every year there are upsets.

Utah can be a 10-win team. I would be surprised if they are a 12 win team.

BC

[BostonCard]

Remember under those circumstances, Utah has to play UW twice (or Oregon or, with any luck, Stanford) in the pac-12 championships, so they could easily be 11-2. Plus every year there are upsets.

Utah can be a 10-win team. I would be surprised if they are a 12 win team.

BC