[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

[BostonCard]

See TC the advantage of this thread is you can consolidate it all into a single thread.

Also, get a therapy kitten. Seems to have done wonders for another poster.

BC

[BostonCard]

See TC the advantage of this thread is you can consolidate it all into a single thread.

Also, get a therapy kitten. Seems to have done wonders for another poster.

BC

[81alum]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

[81alum]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

[PalmTree]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

New/therapy cats and lowered expectations sound like good and cheaper solutions than my approach which was to be out of the country for the Colorado, WSU and Big games - on my planet, we're really just 4-5....

[PalmTree]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

New/therapy cats and lowered expectations sound like good and cheaper solutions than my approach which was to be out of the country for the Colorado, WSU and Big games - on my planet, we're really just 4-5....

[CowboyIndian]

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

[CowboyIndian]

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

[Phogge]

I’m allergic to cats. We did some horrible things to cats near Playland in the early 50’s.

[Phogge]

I’m allergic to cats. We did some horrible things to cats near Playland in the early 50’s.

[BostonCard]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

Funny, our black cat was also a bit funny.  Very skittish, and always seemed to be scurrying.  Now we are convinced we have a munchkin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_cat

BC

[BostonCard]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

Funny, our black cat was also a bit funny.  Very skittish, and always seemed to be scurrying.  Now we are convinced we have a munchkin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_cat

BC

[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

Funny, our black cat was also a bit funny.  Very skittish, and always seemed to be scurrying.  Now we are convinced we have a munchkin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_cat

BC

Interesting cats. Ours is certainly long legged and not very skittish. Fun little guy.

[cardcrimson]

Frankly, was the most relaxed I've been during a game all season. I think the therapy kitten that my daughter adopted earlier in the week really helped. It spent the entire second half sleeping on my shoulder--what a calming effect!

Hah!  We just adopted a cat too.  It definitely lowers blood pressure.  That and low expectations made this game much less stressful to watch than I expected.

Odd cat, kinda looks like a black Bill the Cat. She likes to sleep on one's neck and/or shoulders and nibble on the ears and nose. Have fun with yours!

Funny, our black cat was also a bit funny.  Very skittish, and always seemed to be scurrying.  Now we are convinced we have a munchkin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_cat

BC

Interesting cats. Ours is certainly long legged and not very skittish. Fun little guy.

[cardcrimson]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

[cardcrimson]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

[VFRing98]

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

You’ve got me confused for another, old man. Ironic, given your schtick.

Funny how a Shawpologist gleefully pointed out how Kelly had to use a TO to avoid a delay penalty, and doesn’t that mean, by the logic of Shaw’s critics, that Kelly’s an awful coach, etc etc...this clever rhetorical flourish being made while the Kelly-coached team is curb-stomping Stanford. Pretty rich!

Enjoy your lower-tier bowl game once every couple years, Shaw fanboys.

[VFRing98]

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

You’ve got me confused for another, old man. Ironic, given your schtick.

Funny how a Shawpologist gleefully pointed out how Kelly had to use a TO to avoid a delay penalty, and doesn’t that mean, by the logic of Shaw’s critics, that Kelly’s an awful coach, etc etc...this clever rhetorical flourish being made while the Kelly-coached team is curb-stomping Stanford. Pretty rich!

Enjoy your lower-tier bowl game once every couple years, Shaw fanboys.

[cardcrimson]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

Why was a post about the pool reporters dumped into the Stanford Football sucks thread? Seriously?

And what happened to the Niner game post?

[cardcrimson]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

Why was a post about the pool reporters dumped into the Stanford Football sucks thread? Seriously?

And what happened to the Niner game post?

[BostonCard]

H

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

You’ve got me confused for another, old man. Ironic, given your schtick.

Funny how a Shawpologist gleefully pointed out how Kelly had to use a TO to avoid a delay penalty, and doesn’t that mean, by the logic of Shaw’s critics, that Kelly’s an awful coach, etc etc...this clever rhetorical flourish being made while the Kelly-coached team is curb-stomping Stanford. Pretty rich!

Enjoy your lower-tier bowl game once every couple years, Shaw fanboys.

Since I was the one that posted that Kelly used not one but two time outs in the game to prevent a delay of game, perhaps it is worth explaining my rationale.

Having to take a time out before a play is run is a highly visible failure. What I mean by that is that it is self evident that something wrong happened, and it seems like it should be so preventable - just do everything faster.  The truth of the matter is that it is rarely so easy. Because this was a subject of interest to me, I was looking at the play clock a lot. We always got to the line of scrimmage by the 15 second mark. When there was trouble (either the one time out we did take or the couple of times the play clock got to within a second), It was because something in the defensive alignment was confusing, or another Dame as threatening to blitz.  I don’t know if Mills called an audible or the line was making sure it got its assignment right, but that did get the play clock down to under three seconds.  The same thing happened when Notre Dame called time out.

It’s easy to say just keep track of time better. The truth of the matter is that in a span of forty seconds, there is a lot that has to be done, of which the clock is just one (very visible) part. It is just as much of a breakdown by the offense of a blocking assignment is missed (with arguably worse consequences than a used time out), but it is not immediately apparent to most viewers whether the breakdown happened pre-snap or whether the defender made a nice play, because most fans are not watching the blocking up front.

I am a Shaw supporter, but I’m not necessarily a shawpologist. Folks that I know and respect, including many who know a lot of football, make well reasoned critiques of Shaw, and the record this year speaks for itself.  However, lazy thinking is a pet peeve of mine, and I find many of the critiques of Shaw to be rooted in lazy thinking (please don’t be offended; I’m not trying to single you out), and I think the “Shaw takes time outs to prevent a delay of game” is rooted in that.  It’s much more informative to tell us where the breakdown is happening and to determine whether it is preventable or not. My conclusion, having looked at the plays in which it happens (both at the college and pro level), is that pretty much any system where you are counting on reading the defense pre-snap will leave you vulnerable to running the clock down. Perhaps that is why many offenses have moved to run-pass options which are keyed by post snap reads, although even in RPO’s, there is some need to read the D per-snap, and I think it was UCLA that shockingly had a time out to prevent a DOG against us.

BC

[BostonCard]

H

This is so lame.

This is asinine 101.

See ya Cardboard.

Damn! No more 3-page soccer reports.

You’ve got me confused for another, old man. Ironic, given your schtick.

Funny how a Shawpologist gleefully pointed out how Kelly had to use a TO to avoid a delay penalty, and doesn’t that mean, by the logic of Shaw’s critics, that Kelly’s an awful coach, etc etc...this clever rhetorical flourish being made while the Kelly-coached team is curb-stomping Stanford. Pretty rich!

Enjoy your lower-tier bowl game once every couple years, Shaw fanboys.

Since I was the one that posted that Kelly used not one but two time outs in the game to prevent a delay of game, perhaps it is worth explaining my rationale.

Having to take a time out before a play is run is a highly visible failure. What I mean by that is that it is self evident that something wrong happened, and it seems like it should be so preventable - just do everything faster.  The truth of the matter is that it is rarely so easy. Because this was a subject of interest to me, I was looking at the play clock a lot. We always got to the line of scrimmage by the 15 second mark. When there was trouble (either the one time out we did take or the couple of times the play clock got to within a second), It was because something in the defensive alignment was confusing, or another Dame as threatening to blitz.  I don’t know if Mills called an audible or the line was making sure it got its assignment right, but that did get the play clock down to under three seconds.  The same thing happened when Notre Dame called time out.

It’s easy to say just keep track of time better. The truth of the matter is that in a span of forty seconds, there is a lot that has to be done, of which the clock is just one (very visible) part. It is just as much of a breakdown by the offense of a blocking assignment is missed (with arguably worse consequences than a used time out), but it is not immediately apparent to most viewers whether the breakdown happened pre-snap or whether the defender made a nice play, because most fans are not watching the blocking up front.

I am a Shaw supporter, but I’m not necessarily a shawpologist. Folks that I know and respect, including many who know a lot of football, make well reasoned critiques of Shaw, and the record this year speaks for itself.  However, lazy thinking is a pet peeve of mine, and I find many of the critiques of Shaw to be rooted in lazy thinking (please don’t be offended; I’m not trying to single you out), and I think the “Shaw takes time outs to prevent a delay of game” is rooted in that.  It’s much more informative to tell us where the breakdown is happening and to determine whether it is preventable or not. My conclusion, having looked at the plays in which it happens (both at the college and pro level), is that pretty much any system where you are counting on reading the defense pre-snap will leave you vulnerable to running the clock down. Perhaps that is why many offenses have moved to run-pass options which are keyed by post snap reads, although even in RPO’s, there is some need to read the D per-snap, and I think it was UCLA that shockingly had a time out to prevent a DOG against us.

BC

[winflop]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

This is a point of frustration for me. Nobody seems willing to challenge him. I don’t care if he gets frustrated and snippy. It’s your job to ask tough questions, ESPECIALLY after a season like this

[winflop]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

This is a point of frustration for me. Nobody seems willing to challenge him. I don’t care if he gets frustrated and snippy. It’s your job to ask tough questions, ESPECIALLY after a season like this

[BostonCard]

It’s Human nature; most people aren’t confrontational by nature, and it is really hard to ask questions like that in front of cameras.

Also, I’m not sure it is that useful; press conferences are highly orchestrated affairs designed to provide filler for the inevitable article that has to be written the next day.  And my guess is that everyone here knows the response Shaw would give, and would be deeply unsatisfied by it.

BC

[BostonCard]

It’s Human nature; most people aren’t confrontational by nature, and it is really hard to ask questions like that in front of cameras.

Also, I’m not sure it is that useful; press conferences are highly orchestrated affairs designed to provide filler for the inevitable article that has to be written the next day.  And my guess is that everyone here knows the response Shaw would give, and would be deeply unsatisfied by it.

BC

[JohnR34231]

It’s Human nature; most people aren’t confrontational by nature, and it is really hard to ask questions like that in front of cameras.

Also, I’m not sure it is that useful; press conferences are highly orchestrated affairs designed to provide filler for the inevitable article that has to be written the next day.  And my guess is that everyone here knows the response Shaw would give, and would be deeply unsatisfied by it.

BC

Shaw previously said he wasn't going to think about next season until this season was over. So unless he gave it a lot of thought while he was walking off the field he probably wouldn't have said much.

[JohnR34231]

It’s Human nature; most people aren’t confrontational by nature, and it is really hard to ask questions like that in front of cameras.

Also, I’m not sure it is that useful; press conferences are highly orchestrated affairs designed to provide filler for the inevitable article that has to be written the next day.  And my guess is that everyone here knows the response Shaw would give, and would be deeply unsatisfied by it.

BC

Shaw previously said he wasn't going to think about next season until this season was over. So unless he gave it a lot of thought while he was walking off the field he probably wouldn't have said much.

[BostonCard]

He probably has given it some thought, maybe a lot of thought. But press conferences being what they are, even if he had given it a lot of thought, I’m betting his reply would have been that his focus has been on this season and that he hasn’t wanted to give it thought until this season was over.

A daily reminder that we are not the target audience for a press conference.

BC

[BostonCard]

He probably has given it some thought, maybe a lot of thought. But press conferences being what they are, even if he had given it a lot of thought, I’m betting his reply would have been that his focus has been on this season and that he hasn’t wanted to give it thought until this season was over.

A daily reminder that we are not the target audience for a press conference.

BC

[JohnR34231]

He probably has given it some thought, maybe a lot of thought. But press conferences being what they are, even if he had given it a lot of thought, I’m betting his reply would have been that his focus has been on this season and that he hasn’t wanted to give it thought until this season was over.

A daily reminder that we are not the target audience for a press conference.

BC

You're probably right.
What he meant when he said he wasn't going to think about it until the season was over was he wasn't going to talk about it until the season was over.
You do make a mistake when you take what football coaches say for public consumptrion at face value.

[JohnR34231]

He probably has given it some thought, maybe a lot of thought. But press conferences being what they are, even if he had given it a lot of thought, I’m betting his reply would have been that his focus has been on this season and that he hasn’t wanted to give it thought until this season was over.

A daily reminder that we are not the target audience for a press conference.

BC

You're probably right.
What he meant when he said he wasn't going to think about it until the season was over was he wasn't going to talk about it until the season was over.
You do make a mistake when you take what football coaches say for public consumptrion at face value.

[SamuelMcF]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

This is a point of frustration for me. Nobody seems willing to challenge him. I don’t care if he gets frustrated and snippy. It’s your job to ask tough questions, ESPECIALLY after a season like this

$9.99 a month will show you someone who asked. Shaw's answer was not encouraging.

[SamuelMcF]

Not a single reporter asked Shaw what he plans to do next year so a 4 and 8 season doesn't happen again. Does the Stanford press pool have anybody with any stones?

This is a point of frustration for me. Nobody seems willing to challenge him. I don’t care if he gets frustrated and snippy. It’s your job to ask tough questions, ESPECIALLY after a season like this

$9.99 a month will show you someone who asked. Shaw's answer was not encouraging.

[gailtate]

Yeah, that's your typical Stanford alum: lazy, no sense of urgency, no desire to improve. If you were a generation older, I wouldn't be surprised to hear you use the word "shiftless."

Nice cheap-shot, Yvonne. Throw out that trusty ol' race card. And YOU'RE in charge of  "civility" around here?

[gailtate]

Yeah, that's your typical Stanford alum: lazy, no sense of urgency, no desire to improve. If you were a generation older, I wouldn't be surprised to hear you use the word "shiftless."

Nice cheap-shot, Yvonne. Throw out that trusty ol' race card. And YOU'RE in charge of  "civility" around here?