11-09-2021, 12:53 PM
Time for the Patu era
11-09-2021, 01:37 PM
from the press conference
- questionable
Higgins
Humphreys
Williamson
Smith
McKee (perhaps doubtful)
- Out
Herron
Kelly
Filkins
will also see Sanders at QB
- questionable
Higgins
Humphreys
Williamson
Smith
McKee (perhaps doubtful)
- Out
Herron
Kelly
Filkins
will also see Sanders at QB
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
11-09-2021, 01:59 PM
(11-09-2021, 01:37 PM)82lsju Wrote: from the press conference
- questionable
Higgins
Humphreys
Williamson
Smith
McKee (perhaps doubtful)
- Out
Herron
Kelly
Filkins
will also see Sanders at QB
The list above is shorter than I had anticipated based upon the physical pounding dished out by Utah.
11-09-2021, 02:13 PM
(11-09-2021, 01:59 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(11-09-2021, 01:37 PM)82lsju Wrote: from the press conference
- questionable
Higgins
Humphreys
Williamson
Smith
McKee (perhaps doubtful)
- Out
Herron
Kelly
Filkins
will also see Sanders at QB
The list above is shorter than I had anticipated based upon the physical pounding dished out by Utah.
Right. Really only Williamson and KBK were hurt vs. Utah. EJ slipped going down the tunnel at the end of the game (as reported by someone else here), and the rest were previously injured.
In the secondary, we lost Williamson and KBK but gained Bonner and STM. KBK is the best player on our defense and probably our team, but at least some DBs are coming back from injury.
(11-09-2021, 01:59 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(11-09-2021, 01:37 PM)82lsju Wrote: from the press conference
- questionable
Higgins
Humphreys
Williamson
Smith
McKee (perhaps doubtful)
- Out
Herron
Kelly
Filkins
will also see Sanders at QB
The list above is shorter than I had anticipated based upon the physical pounding dished out by Utah.
Right. Really only Williamson and KBK were hurt vs. Utah. EJ slipped going down the tunnel at the end of the game (as reported by someone else here), and the rest were previously injured.
In the secondary, we lost Williamson and KBK but gained Bonner and STM. KBK is the best player on our defense and probably our team, but at least some DBs are coming back from injury.
11-09-2021, 02:13 PM
(11-09-2021, 12:53 PM)Jamesy Wrote: Patu to start if Tanner can't go.
https://twitter.com/TroyClardy/status/14...75361?s=20
Unfortunately, QB eras don't last long at Stanford anymore. We had the Luck era (2009-2011), then the Hogan era (mid-2012-2015), with a smattering of Nunes in between. That's essentially two QBs over a 7-year stretch. This was followed by:
1) the Burns era (2016-mid-2016)
2) the Chryst era (mid-2016-mid-2017)
3) the Costello era (mid-2017-mid-2019)
4) the Mills era (mid-2019-2020)
5) the McKee era (2021-?)
That's 5 QBs in 6 years. I don't think we are transitioning to the Patu era quite yet, but let's see how he does on Saturday. I don't expect McKee to play.
(11-09-2021, 12:53 PM)Jamesy Wrote: Patu to start if Tanner can't go.
https://twitter.com/TroyClardy/status/14...75361?s=20
Unfortunately, QB eras don't last long at Stanford anymore. We had the Luck era (2009-2011), then the Hogan era (mid-2012-2015), with a smattering of Nunes in between. That's essentially two QBs over a 7-year stretch. This was followed by:
1) the Burns era (2016-mid-2016)
2) the Chryst era (mid-2016-mid-2017)
3) the Costello era (mid-2017-mid-2019)
4) the Mills era (mid-2019-2020)
5) the McKee era (2021-?)
That's 5 QBs in 6 years. I don't think we are transitioning to the Patu era quite yet, but let's see how he does on Saturday. I don't expect McKee to play.
11-09-2021, 02:50 PM
(11-09-2021, 02:13 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: Right. Really only Williamson and KBK were hurt vs. Utah. EJ slipped going down the tunnel at the end of the game (as reported by someone else here), and the rest were previously injured.
Given the EJ injury, it sure seems to me some kind of surface that works with cleats should be put in the tunnel ASAP. I recall the noise cleats make on concrete and the inevitable slipping and sliding that goes with it. No excuse for Stanford not fixing this situation RTFN.
(11-09-2021, 02:13 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: Right. Really only Williamson and KBK were hurt vs. Utah. EJ slipped going down the tunnel at the end of the game (as reported by someone else here), and the rest were previously injured.
Given the EJ injury, it sure seems to me some kind of surface that works with cleats should be put in the tunnel ASAP. I recall the noise cleats make on concrete and the inevitable slipping and sliding that goes with it. No excuse for Stanford not fixing this situation RTFN.
11-09-2021, 02:53 PM
Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
11-09-2021, 08:15 PM
(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Patu looked good in the spring game too. Honestly, after what we saw last week, I think I'd try Wade-Perry at QB if needed to change things up. Or let Sanders throw.
As for Smith, I reported that here after seeing it with my own eyes. No trolling. He was jogging off with no limp, then stopped to go back and high five a kid hanging over the railing. He then slipped and went down hard as he turned to go back down the tunnel. He was in obvious pain and was helped up by a teammate, and then put no weight on one foot as he was helped down the tunnel. I have to assume that's why he's on the questionable list.
(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Patu looked good in the spring game too. Honestly, after what we saw last week, I think I'd try Wade-Perry at QB if needed to change things up. Or let Sanders throw.
As for Smith, I reported that here after seeing it with my own eyes. No trolling. He was jogging off with no limp, then stopped to go back and high five a kid hanging over the railing. He then slipped and went down hard as he turned to go back down the tunnel. He was in obvious pain and was helped up by a teammate, and then put no weight on one foot as he was helped down the tunnel. I have to assume that's why he's on the questionable list.
11-09-2021, 08:19 PM
(11-09-2021, 08:15 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Patu looked good in the spring game too. Honestly, after what we saw last week, I think I'd try Wade-Perry at QB if needed to change things up. Or let Sanders throw.
As for Smith, I reported that here after seeing it with my own eyes. No trolling. He was jogging off with no limp, then stopped to go back and high five a kid hanging over the railing. He then slipped and went down hard as he turned to go back down the tunnel. He was in obvious pain and was helped up by a teammate, and then put no weight on one foot as he was helped down the tunnel. I have to assume that's why he's on the questionable list.
(shaking my head).
Sorry for doubting you. I guess when it rains, it pours.
(11-09-2021, 08:15 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Patu looked good in the spring game too. Honestly, after what we saw last week, I think I'd try Wade-Perry at QB if needed to change things up. Or let Sanders throw.
As for Smith, I reported that here after seeing it with my own eyes. No trolling. He was jogging off with no limp, then stopped to go back and high five a kid hanging over the railing. He then slipped and went down hard as he turned to go back down the tunnel. He was in obvious pain and was helped up by a teammate, and then put no weight on one foot as he was helped down the tunnel. I have to assume that's why he's on the questionable list.
(shaking my head).
Sorry for doubting you. I guess when it rains, it pours.
11-10-2021, 06:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2021, 06:19 AM by JohnR34231.)
(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Hope Patu looks good, but didn't I read somewhere that he didn't even play football his senior year of HS because of the pandemic?
Perhaps he will be a good QB for us eventually, but expecting a lot out of him in this game is unrealistic.
Of course, given how the West/Sanders combo looked against Utah, there isn't a lot of downside in giving him a shot.
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2021, 06:19 AM by JohnR34231.)
(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope. I was surprised to see a pretty decent downfield pass last week in the 2nd half, and then I realized that Patu was in the game. It wasn't caught.
Speaking of hope, I'd hoped the poster who said he'd witnessed Smith getting injured after the game was trolling. Geez.
Hope Patu looks good, but didn't I read somewhere that he didn't even play football his senior year of HS because of the pandemic?
Perhaps he will be a good QB for us eventually, but expecting a lot out of him in this game is unrealistic.
Of course, given how the West/Sanders combo looked against Utah, there isn't a lot of downside in giving him a shot.
11-10-2021, 06:16 AM
(11-09-2021, 02:13 PM)Austroturf Wrote:(11-09-2021, 12:53 PM)Jamesy Wrote: Patu to start if Tanner can't go.
https://twitter.com/TroyClardy/status/14...75361?s=20
Unfortunately, QB eras don't last long at Stanford anymore. We had the Luck era (2009-2011), then the Hogan era (mid-2012-2015), with a smattering of Nunes in between. That's essentially two QBs over a 7-year stretch. This was followed by:
1) the Burns era (2016-mid-2016)
2) the Chryst era (mid-2016-mid-2017)
3) the Costello era (mid-2017-mid-2019)
4) the Mills era (mid-2019-2020)
5) the McKee era (2021-?)
That's 5 QBs in 6 years. I don't think we are transitioning to the Patu era quite yet, but let's see how he does on Saturday. I don't expect McKee to play.
What, even more evidence having an offense that takes 2 years to learn is self-defeating and yet another example of inability to react to changing conditions? Who could have ever guessed?
(11-09-2021, 02:13 PM)Austroturf Wrote:(11-09-2021, 12:53 PM)Jamesy Wrote: Patu to start if Tanner can't go.
https://twitter.com/TroyClardy/status/14...75361?s=20
Unfortunately, QB eras don't last long at Stanford anymore. We had the Luck era (2009-2011), then the Hogan era (mid-2012-2015), with a smattering of Nunes in between. That's essentially two QBs over a 7-year stretch. This was followed by:
1) the Burns era (2016-mid-2016)
2) the Chryst era (mid-2016-mid-2017)
3) the Costello era (mid-2017-mid-2019)
4) the Mills era (mid-2019-2020)
5) the McKee era (2021-?)
That's 5 QBs in 6 years. I don't think we are transitioning to the Patu era quite yet, but let's see how he does on Saturday. I don't expect McKee to play.
What, even more evidence having an offense that takes 2 years to learn is self-defeating and yet another example of inability to react to changing conditions? Who could have ever guessed?
ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
11-10-2021, 10:47 AM
West was offered as a soph committed early and didn’t get much better after that
11-10-2021, 10:51 AM
(11-10-2021, 09:27 AM)82lsju Wrote: ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
West is not even listed on the depth chart. Is he out with injury? Quit? Banished? In hiding?
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(11-10-2021, 09:27 AM)82lsju Wrote: ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
West is not even listed on the depth chart. Is he out with injury? Quit? Banished? In hiding?
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-10-2021, 10:54 AM
(11-10-2021, 10:51 AM)martyup Wrote:(11-10-2021, 09:27 AM)82lsju Wrote: ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
West is not even listed on the depth chart. Is he out with injury? Quit? Banished? In hiding?
Given they list two or three people per position (three at QB) I'd guess he's fourth (or lower) on the depth chart
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(11-10-2021, 10:51 AM)martyup Wrote:(11-10-2021, 09:27 AM)82lsju Wrote: ADD: and now on the Stanford site
https://gostanford.com/documents/2021/11..._State.pdf
depth chart vs OSU (from the OSU site not ours....) see page 13 here
https://osubeavers.com/documents/2021/11...f?id=19829
West is not even listed on the depth chart. Is he out with injury? Quit? Banished? In hiding?
Given they list two or three people per position (three at QB) I'd guess he's fourth (or lower) on the depth chart
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
11-10-2021, 10:58 AM
(11-10-2021, 10:30 AM)winflop Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope.
Going with Patu just tells me how bad ShawVita were in evaluating West
If they made a bad decision on West they had plenty of company, even elite teams.
Check out his offer list some time.
11-10-2021, 11:58 AM
(11-10-2021, 10:58 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(11-10-2021, 10:30 AM)winflop Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope.
Going with Patu just tells me how bad ShawVita were in evaluating West
If they made a bad decision on West they had plenty of company, even elite teams.
Check out his offer list some time.
I think the bad decision to which many on this board are referring is starting West against KState.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(11-10-2021, 10:58 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(11-10-2021, 10:30 AM)winflop Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope.
Going with Patu just tells me how bad ShawVita were in evaluating West
If they made a bad decision on West they had plenty of company, even elite teams.
Check out his offer list some time.
I think the bad decision to which many on this board are referring is starting West against KState.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-10-2021, 12:39 PM
(11-10-2021, 10:58 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(11-10-2021, 10:30 AM)winflop Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope.
Going with Patu just tells me how bad ShawVita were in evaluating West
If they made a bad decision on West they had plenty of company, even elite teams.
Check out his offer list some time.
I'm not talking about the decision to offer him. I'm talking about the decision to start him Week 1. Frankly, the evaluation that he was anywhere near the same level as McKee.
(11-10-2021, 10:58 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(11-10-2021, 10:30 AM)winflop Wrote:(11-09-2021, 02:53 PM)murky Wrote: Going with Patu gives me some hope.
Going with Patu just tells me how bad ShawVita were in evaluating West
If they made a bad decision on West they had plenty of company, even elite teams.
Check out his offer list some time.
I'm not talking about the decision to offer him. I'm talking about the decision to start him Week 1. Frankly, the evaluation that he was anywhere near the same level as McKee.
11-10-2021, 12:45 PM
A more effective offensive line would make all of our QB's that much better than what we have seen. Remember that when we are singling out or criticizing anyone behind center.
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