[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit. I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc. All well and good. And all possible because he has the best players in America every year. As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford?

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do. Year after year they win. With good not great talent. They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense. They control clock. They beat their opponents physically. Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed. Why? Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years. Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit. I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc. All well and good. And all possible because he has the best players in America every year. As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford?

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do. Year after year they win. With good not great talent. They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense. They control clock. They beat their opponents physically. Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed. Why? Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years. Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

[cardcrimson]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Stanford = Cube Steak?!? How depressing. . . .

[cardcrimson]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Stanford = Cube Steak?!? How depressing. . . .

[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

No argument here. As for the paywall, here's money-shot content (pay particular attention to the second paragraph).

When people complain about Alabama’s dominance, they’re missing the point. To me, Alabama is sports at its best: not the wonder of competition or the joy of watching an underdog come out on top (obviously, though that’s pretty awesome, too), but the terror and awe of watching a behemoth. That term, “behemoth,” comes from Chapter 40 of the Book of Job, by the way, in which God describes a creature so powerful only he can kill it. “Its tail sways like a cedar,” its limbs are like “rods of iron,” the Lord says, and “a raging river does not alarm it.” And if you’ve ever seen Alabama play at home in the fourth quarter of a game against a feisty but overmatched opponent, well, this probably sounds pretty familiar.
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And Alabama, like any good villain, is fully sentient, always learning, always improving, always finding new and even more terrifying ways to decimate its opponents. Over the past four seasons, Alabama has become more creative and dynamic on offense, averaging 488 yards per game in 2021. In 2015, the Tide averaged 427 yards of offense per game. No surprise, the 2015 version of Alabama still won a national title.
Of course, teams do, on occasion, beat Alabama, as we saw this week. Since the 2010-2011 season, Alabama has lost a total of 17 games. (For comparison, Michigan State, which is really good, has lost 47 games in the same period.) I think I remember parts of all of them: In 2021, there was Rachel House Small, the wife of Texas A&M kicker Seth Small, holding hands with Seth’s mother as her husband kicked the game-winning field goal to defeat Alabama, then leaping onto the field to celebrate in a moment that became pandemonium.

And, in 2013, the Auburn University Marching Band’s ebullient, emotional, exhilarating reaction to Auburn’s defeat of Alabama on a last-second field goal returned for a touchdown in one of the most incredible moments in college football history, the “Kick Six.” I watched that game on a laptop in London, and I can tell you what the bedroom I was in looked like and how fuzzy the internet connection was. That’s what happens when you’re Alabama — your losses are so rare that they become precious jewels of football memorabilia.

It’s important to remember that the Tide went 7-6 in Coach Nick Saban’s first year in Tuscaloosa back in 2007, and before his arrival, the Alabama football teams of the early 2000s were sometimes pretty good and sometimes kind of mediocre. The year I was born, 1987, Alabama went 7-5. It was another team, the Miami Hurricanes, that finished 12-0 that year and won the national championship, part of an era for that team when it was so utterly superior to its opponents that the players had plenty of opportunities to invent new end zone celebrations.

Someday, Alabama won’t be Alabama anymore. Let’s appreciate this thing of beauty — or, more accurately, this unstoppable hell beast from the great beyond — while we can.
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/opinion/gop-trump-big-lie.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article]

[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

No argument here. As for the paywall, here's money-shot content (pay particular attention to the second paragraph).

When people complain about Alabama’s dominance, they’re missing the point. To me, Alabama is sports at its best: not the wonder of competition or the joy of watching an underdog come out on top (obviously, though that’s pretty awesome, too), but the terror and awe of watching a behemoth. That term, “behemoth,” comes from Chapter 40 of the Book of Job, by the way, in which God describes a creature so powerful only he can kill it. “Its tail sways like a cedar,” its limbs are like “rods of iron,” the Lord says, and “a raging river does not alarm it.” And if you’ve ever seen Alabama play at home in the fourth quarter of a game against a feisty but overmatched opponent, well, this probably sounds pretty familiar.
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And Alabama, like any good villain, is fully sentient, always learning, always improving, always finding new and even more terrifying ways to decimate its opponents. Over the past four seasons, Alabama has become more creative and dynamic on offense, averaging 488 yards per game in 2021. In 2015, the Tide averaged 427 yards of offense per game. No surprise, the 2015 version of Alabama still won a national title.
Of course, teams do, on occasion, beat Alabama, as we saw this week. Since the 2010-2011 season, Alabama has lost a total of 17 games. (For comparison, Michigan State, which is really good, has lost 47 games in the same period.) I think I remember parts of all of them: In 2021, there was Rachel House Small, the wife of Texas A&M kicker Seth Small, holding hands with Seth’s mother as her husband kicked the game-winning field goal to defeat Alabama, then leaping onto the field to celebrate in a moment that became pandemonium.

And, in 2013, the Auburn University Marching Band’s ebullient, emotional, exhilarating reaction to Auburn’s defeat of Alabama on a last-second field goal returned for a touchdown in one of the most incredible moments in college football history, the “Kick Six.” I watched that game on a laptop in London, and I can tell you what the bedroom I was in looked like and how fuzzy the internet connection was. That’s what happens when you’re Alabama — your losses are so rare that they become precious jewels of football memorabilia.

It’s important to remember that the Tide went 7-6 in Coach Nick Saban’s first year in Tuscaloosa back in 2007, and before his arrival, the Alabama football teams of the early 2000s were sometimes pretty good and sometimes kind of mediocre. The year I was born, 1987, Alabama went 7-5. It was another team, the Miami Hurricanes, that finished 12-0 that year and won the national championship, part of an era for that team when it was so utterly superior to its opponents that the players had plenty of opportunities to invent new end zone celebrations.

Someday, Alabama won’t be Alabama anymore. Let’s appreciate this thing of beauty — or, more accurately, this unstoppable hell beast from the great beyond — while we can.
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/opinion/gop-trump-big-lie.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article]

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

No argument here. As for the paywall, here's money-shot content (pay particular attention to the second paragraph).

When people complain about Alabama’s dominance, they’re missing the point. To me, Alabama is sports at its best: not the wonder of competition or the joy of watching an underdog come out on top (obviously, though that’s pretty awesome, too), but the terror and awe of watching a behemoth. That term, “behemoth,” comes from Chapter 40 of the Book of Job, by the way, in which God describes a creature so powerful only he can kill it. “Its tail sways like a cedar,” its limbs are like “rods of iron,” the Lord says, and “a raging river does not alarm it.” And if you’ve ever seen Alabama play at home in the fourth quarter of a game against a feisty but overmatched opponent, well, this probably sounds pretty familiar.
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And Alabama, like any good villain, is fully sentient, always learning, always improving, always finding new and even more terrifying ways to decimate its opponents. Over the past four seasons, Alabama has become more creative and dynamic on offense, averaging 488 yards per game in 2021. In 2015, the Tide averaged 427 yards of offense per game. No surprise, the 2015 version of Alabama still won a national title.
Of course, teams do, on occasion, beat Alabama, as we saw this week. Since the 2010-2011 season, Alabama has lost a total of 17 games. (For comparison, Michigan State, which is really good, has lost 47 games in the same period.) I think I remember parts of all of them: In 2021, there was Rachel House Small, the wife of Texas A&M kicker Seth Small, holding hands with Seth’s mother as her husband kicked the game-winning field goal to defeat Alabama, then leaping onto the field to celebrate in a moment that became pandemonium.

And, in 2013, the Auburn University Marching Band’s ebullient, emotional, exhilarating reaction to Auburn’s defeat of Alabama on a last-second field goal returned for a touchdown in one of the most incredible moments in college football history, the “Kick Six.” I watched that game on a laptop in London, and I can tell you what the bedroom I was in looked like and how fuzzy the internet connection was. That’s what happens when you’re Alabama — your losses are so rare that they become precious jewels of football memorabilia.

It’s important to remember that the Tide went 7-6 in Coach Nick Saban’s first year in Tuscaloosa back in 2007, and before his arrival, the Alabama football teams of the early 2000s were sometimes pretty good and sometimes kind of mediocre. The year I was born, 1987, Alabama went 7-5. It was another team, the Miami Hurricanes, that finished 12-0 that year and won the national championship, part of an era for that team when it was so utterly superior to its opponents that the players had plenty of opportunities to invent new end zone celebrations.

Someday, Alabama won’t be Alabama anymore. Let’s appreciate this thing of beauty — or, more accurately, this unstoppable hell beast from the great beyond — while we can.
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/opinion/gop-trump-big-lie.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article]

Thanks.  Interesting article .  And I get the always improving/evolving.  Much easier to do when you are the top dog.  Particularly when you are at a University that is football royalty.

Coaching is a tough profession.  Getting to the top is tough. Staying there, tougher.  LSU, Orgeron and Brady are great examples.  Orgeron  on top of the world, Brady the new “it” offensive mind.  Then Burrow and Chase graduated. Along with a slew of other players that were high NFL picks.  Orgeron is out.  Meanwhile, Brady goes to Carolina, bombs out and is gone.

Believe it or not, Gail, I agree with the criticism of Shaw not changing assistant coaches. I just don’t draw anything from Alabama.

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

No argument here. As for the paywall, here's money-shot content (pay particular attention to the second paragraph).

When people complain about Alabama’s dominance, they’re missing the point. To me, Alabama is sports at its best: not the wonder of competition or the joy of watching an underdog come out on top (obviously, though that’s pretty awesome, too), but the terror and awe of watching a behemoth. That term, “behemoth,” comes from Chapter 40 of the Book of Job, by the way, in which God describes a creature so powerful only he can kill it. “Its tail sways like a cedar,” its limbs are like “rods of iron,” the Lord says, and “a raging river does not alarm it.” And if you’ve ever seen Alabama play at home in the fourth quarter of a game against a feisty but overmatched opponent, well, this probably sounds pretty familiar.
[/url]
And Alabama, like any good villain, is fully sentient, always learning, always improving, always finding new and even more terrifying ways to decimate its opponents. Over the past four seasons, Alabama has become more creative and dynamic on offense, averaging 488 yards per game in 2021. In 2015, the Tide averaged 427 yards of offense per game. No surprise, the 2015 version of Alabama still won a national title.
Of course, teams do, on occasion, beat Alabama, as we saw this week. Since the 2010-2011 season, Alabama has lost a total of 17 games. (For comparison, Michigan State, which is really good, has lost 47 games in the same period.) I think I remember parts of all of them: In 2021, there was Rachel House Small, the wife of Texas A&M kicker Seth Small, holding hands with Seth’s mother as her husband kicked the game-winning field goal to defeat Alabama, then leaping onto the field to celebrate in a moment that became pandemonium.

And, in 2013, the Auburn University Marching Band’s ebullient, emotional, exhilarating reaction to Auburn’s defeat of Alabama on a last-second field goal returned for a touchdown in one of the most incredible moments in college football history, the “Kick Six.” I watched that game on a laptop in London, and I can tell you what the bedroom I was in looked like and how fuzzy the internet connection was. That’s what happens when you’re Alabama — your losses are so rare that they become precious jewels of football memorabilia.

It’s important to remember that the Tide went 7-6 in Coach Nick Saban’s first year in Tuscaloosa back in 2007, and before his arrival, the Alabama football teams of the early 2000s were sometimes pretty good and sometimes kind of mediocre. The year I was born, 1987, Alabama went 7-5. It was another team, the Miami Hurricanes, that finished 12-0 that year and won the national championship, part of an era for that team when it was so utterly superior to its opponents that the players had plenty of opportunities to invent new end zone celebrations.

Someday, Alabama won’t be Alabama anymore. Let’s appreciate this thing of beauty — or, more accurately, this unstoppable hell beast from the great beyond — while we can.
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/opinion/gop-trump-big-lie.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article]

Thanks.  Interesting article .  And I get the always improving/evolving.  Much easier to do when you are the top dog.  Particularly when you are at a University that is football royalty.

Coaching is a tough profession.  Getting to the top is tough. Staying there, tougher.  LSU, Orgeron and Brady are great examples.  Orgeron  on top of the world, Brady the new “it” offensive mind.  Then Burrow and Chase graduated. Along with a slew of other players that were high NFL picks.  Orgeron is out.  Meanwhile, Brady goes to Carolina, bombs out and is gone.

Believe it or not, Gail, I agree with the criticism of Shaw not changing assistant coaches. I just don’t draw anything from Alabama.

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That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

[slide]

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

[Red80]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  

And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford?  

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Couldn't agree more, Lex. And I firmly believe that it's the only way that Stanford will ever be relevant again in college football. Play-calling? New OC? It's laughable. Stanford needs to realign with what they once were under Shaw: The most physical downhill, violent running team in the country. It's how they won conference championships...in a league that was decidedly stronger than what it currently is.

[Red80]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  

And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford?  

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Couldn't agree more, Lex. And I firmly believe that it's the only way that Stanford will ever be relevant again in college football. Play-calling? New OC? It's laughable. Stanford needs to realign with what they once were under Shaw: The most physical downhill, violent running team in the country. It's how they won conference championships...in a league that was decidedly stronger than what it currently is.

[Langdude]

Yes! IMHO, I think that the reason that Stanford was ultra competitive for about 10 years was because they discovered an inefficiency in the market, maybe even by accident. There were a disproportionate number of student-atheletes who could qualify for Stanford and who were either (1) highly ranked, or (2) had enough qualities that would enable them to be coached up, that made for good players **in a particular system** - i.e., big and strong bodies that did not need to be exceptionally fast or nimble, but who were also exceptionally smart and super competitive. Combine that with the right system, a good strength, nutrition, and conditioning program, and some coaches who were smart, creative, enthusiastic, and committed -- and you get a program that attracts kids to the 40 year decision. But if you lose any of these things - system, the right coaches, excellent strength/conditioning, smart and competitive players - it goes downhill. If you lose a combination of them, it goes downhill fast.

-m.

[Langdude]

Yes! IMHO, I think that the reason that Stanford was ultra competitive for about 10 years was because they discovered an inefficiency in the market, maybe even by accident. There were a disproportionate number of student-atheletes who could qualify for Stanford and who were either (1) highly ranked, or (2) had enough qualities that would enable them to be coached up, that made for good players **in a particular system** - i.e., big and strong bodies that did not need to be exceptionally fast or nimble, but who were also exceptionally smart and super competitive. Combine that with the right system, a good strength, nutrition, and conditioning program, and some coaches who were smart, creative, enthusiastic, and committed -- and you get a program that attracts kids to the 40 year decision. But if you lose any of these things - system, the right coaches, excellent strength/conditioning, smart and competitive players - it goes downhill. If you lose a combination of them, it goes downhill fast.

-m.

[lex24]

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

Agree they need to improve recruiting.  But I never bought the argument that they could consistently recruit in the top 15.  Nor did I believe that they would consistently be challenging for Pac12 championships year after year. I always maintained that this would end at some point. Because I never saw a historical predicate to believe Stanford could be a year in year out football power. 

But I also agree 3-9 is not acceptable. Nor is what we saw in the second half of last year - which was one of the worst football teams in college football. In my mind they quit. Which is a h.u.g.e (I INTENSELY DISLIKE THAT ABSURD AUTOCHANGE. BUT BECAUSE ITS EQUIVALENT OF 12 YEAR OLD STUFF, ILL ACT LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD AND SCREAM MY DISAPPROVAL) indictment. So let’s see if they clear that up next year. Hopefully they do. 

Further I think the changes that the NCAA have instituted hurt Stanford.  The earlier commitment date and the portal. The latter is really a problem in my opinion.

At the end of the day I continue to believe that they need to focus on the lines. Go back to intellectual brutality. Have an identity that they can recruit to. And stick to it. I think they’ve gotten away from all of that. And the result has not been pretty. 

Speaking of lines, Slide, I can’t help but mention the Georgia defensive line. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that in college football. Massive and incredibly athletic. My goodness.

[lex24]

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

Agree they need to improve recruiting.  But I never bought the argument that they could consistently recruit in the top 15.  Nor did I believe that they would consistently be challenging for Pac12 championships year after year. I always maintained that this would end at some point. Because I never saw a historical predicate to believe Stanford could be a year in year out football power. 

But I also agree 3-9 is not acceptable. Nor is what we saw in the second half of last year - which was one of the worst football teams in college football. In my mind they quit. Which is a h.u.g.e (I INTENSELY DISLIKE THAT ABSURD AUTOCHANGE. BUT BECAUSE ITS EQUIVALENT OF 12 YEAR OLD STUFF, ILL ACT LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD AND SCREAM MY DISAPPROVAL) indictment. So let’s see if they clear that up next year. Hopefully they do. 

Further I think the changes that the NCAA have instituted hurt Stanford.  The earlier commitment date and the portal. The latter is really a problem in my opinion.

At the end of the day I continue to believe that they need to focus on the lines. Go back to intellectual brutality. Have an identity that they can recruit to. And stick to it. I think they’ve gotten away from all of that. And the result has not been pretty. 

Speaking of lines, Slide, I can’t help but mention the Georgia defensive line. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that in college football. Massive and incredibly athletic. My goodness.

[gailtate]

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

I wrote Shaw OFF when he publicly embraced the absurd notion of recruiting only "Stanford guys". AYFKM??  WTF is a "Stanford guy"?  Many of the "guys" I see out there today are conspicuously and sadly out of their depth. Overwhelmed by the Utahs, Wazoos and Weenies of a WEAK conference. YES, THE WEENIES. This is the reason why, even as I continue to root for Stanford, I will jump for joy if/when Shaw goes down in flames should he stay his current course.  Icebergs? What icebergs? I see nothing but calm seas and smooth sailing.  Glub-glub...

[gailtate]

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Lex -- my take is Saban prioritizes recruiting, then developing the talent.  that's his process.  Saban uses all 85 scholarships every year, he uses all (or nearly all) 56 official visits every year, he is active recruiting particularly with the whales, he does in homes with undecided recruits, he has a recruiting coordinator, he holds staff accountable for recruiting etc.  Shaw does none of these things and has quirky views in recruiting like gap year QB recruiting as a method.

years ago, Peter Skov (Shayne and Patrick's father) put together some work on recruiting that showed with a modicum of effort Stanford should be 15 to 20 nationally every year with occasional years in the top 5.  I still buy into his views.  of course, it will now be much more difficult to get back to that level with 11-19 over the past 3 years with on-field product deteriorating and roster talent down, way down.  the '22 class is a start, but we need 2 or 3 classes in a row like this class.

I wrote Shaw OFF when he publicly embraced the absurd notion of recruiting only "Stanford guys". AYFKM??  WTF is a "Stanford guy"?  Many of the "guys" I see out there today are conspicuously and sadly out of their depth. Overwhelmed by the Utahs, Wazoos and Weenies of a WEAK conference. YES, THE WEENIES. This is the reason why, even as I continue to root for Stanford, I will jump for joy if/when Shaw goes down in flames should he stay his current course.  Icebergs? What icebergs? I see nothing but calm seas and smooth sailing.  Glub-glub...

[slide]

Speaking of lines, Slide, I can’t help but mention the Georgia defensive line. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that in college football. Massive and incredibly athletic. My goodness.

they were fun to watch this year.  it looks like Jalen Carter and may be Nolan Smith will be back to lead them next year.  

going into this season, the front 7 of D was a big UGA concern (and they did well).  same type replacement concerns will be a question mark for the '22 team.

talent/depth along front 4 is big differentiator between good teams in SEC and good teams in other conferences.

[slide]

Speaking of lines, Slide, I can’t help but mention the Georgia defensive line. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that in college football. Massive and incredibly athletic. My goodness.

they were fun to watch this year.  it looks like Jalen Carter and may be Nolan Smith will be back to lead them next year.  

going into this season, the front 7 of D was a big UGA concern (and they did well).  same type replacement concerns will be a question mark for the '22 team.

talent/depth along front 4 is big differentiator between good teams in SEC and good teams in other conferences.

[Phogge]

Lex that 1999 game when Texas scored 69 was h.u.g.e.

[Phogge]

Lex that 1999 game when Texas scored 69 was h.u.g.e.

[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Painfully true. And I witnessed both of those games. But he finally figured out a way to score a few more (23) in his third effort against SC. Still, his overall record vs. Trojans: 1-4.

[gailtate]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Painfully true. And I witnessed both of those games. But he finally figured out a way to score a few more (23) in his third effort against SC. Still, his overall record vs. Trojans: 1-4.

[Red80]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Painfully true. And I witnessed both of those games. But he finally figured out a way to score a few more (23) in his third effort against SC. Still, his overall record vs. Trojans: 1-4.

16 in his third effort. Lynch's pick six sealed it.

[Red80]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

That it’s quite nice to be able to have the top recruiting class in the nation every year?  Saban is a great coach.  But of course he never lines up against a team with superior talent.  Just like Urban M.  Until he went to the NFL and showed his limitations. Saban didn’t fare too well in NFL either.

I could only read part of the article, then the paywall hit.  I get that Saban brings in top level assistants, changes things up etc.  All well and good.  And all possible because he has the best players in America every year.  As for his bringing in top level OC’s and DC’s do you think any would even consider Stanford? 

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

You want to find a comparison - look at what Wisconsin and Iowa do.  Year after year they win.  With good not great talent.  They do so by building top rate offensive lines and playing excellent defense.  They control clock.  They beat their opponents physically.  Then they run into OSU (when scheduled) and get waxed.  Why?  Cause OSU always has better athletes. (As a reminder the greatest offensive football mind of the last 60 years managed 7 points vs. USC in two years.  Cause SC was able to dominate physically.)

Painfully true. And I witnessed both of those games. But he finally figured out a way to score a few more (23) in his third effort against SC. Still, his overall record vs. Trojans: 1-4.

16 in his third effort. Lynch's pick six sealed it.

[Bruce Wang]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

I like this analogy because filet is for suckers.  An expensive flavorless chunk of meat.  A skilled cook with the right equipment can make almost any other cut taste better.

[Bruce Wang]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

I like this analogy because filet is for suckers.  An expensive flavorless chunk of meat.  A skilled cook with the right equipment can make almost any other cut taste better.

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

I like this analogy because filet is for suckers.  An expensive flavorless chunk of meat.  A skilled cook with the right equipment can make almost any other cut taste better.

LOL.  

I do greatly prefer a NY.  Filet I usually make a sauce.  NY needs no sauce. Much more flavor.

---

Lex that 1999 game when Texas scored 69 was h.u.g.e.

Is that where the silly thing comes from?  I’ve never known.

[lex24]

The Tide will roll on. And on, and on. It's no mystery as to why and how. What, if anything, can Stanford football learn from this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/opini...tball.html

Comparing Alabama to Stanford is like comparing Filet Mignon to cube steak.  I don’t care how great a chef one is, the Filet will always be better…..

I like this analogy because filet is for suckers.  An expensive flavorless chunk of meat.  A skilled cook with the right equipment can make almost any other cut taste better.

LOL.  

I do greatly prefer a NY.  Filet I usually make a sauce.  NY needs no sauce. Much more flavor.

---

Lex that 1999 game when Texas scored 69 was h.u.g.e.

Is that where the silly thing comes from?  I’ve never known.

[BostonCard]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

[BostonCard]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

[cardcrimson]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

[cardcrimson]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

[PAsportsfan]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

It’s so beneath me.

Pardon me. Would you have any Grey Poupon?

LOL

[PAsportsfan]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

It’s so beneath me.

Pardon me. Would you have any Grey Poupon?

LOL

[cardcrimson]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

It’s so beneath me.

Pardon me. Would you have any Grey Poupon?

LOL

Do you really think the auto replace is funny? Seriously? Love to see a poll. Oh wait. That was tried and IIRC the thread was locked or deleted.

[cardcrimson]

Yeah, before the game, one of our numbers, who shall remain nameless, proclaimed that the game was “h.uge”.  And we know how it turned out.  Ever since, the word has been banned.

BC

. . . .and it remains hugely childish.

It’s so beneath me.

Pardon me. Would you have any Grey Poupon?

LOL

Do you really think the auto replace is funny? Seriously? Love to see a poll. Oh wait. That was tried and IIRC the thread was locked or deleted.