[JohnR34231]

Deion apparently going to Colorado.  Talk about a bold, exciting move.

Suspect he will take his star DB/WR along with him, who was considered the #1 guy in last year's recruiting class.

[JohnR34231]

Deion apparently going to Colorado.  Talk about a bold, exciting move.

Suspect he will take his star DB/WR along with him, who was considered the #1 guy in last year's recruiting class.

[Phogge]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

Sorry Einstein, only a state college grad. We didn't have spelling. I know you Stanford guys have a spellcheck gene in your medulla along with the elite gene.

[Phogge]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

Sorry Einstein, only a state college grad. We didn't have spelling. I know you Stanford guys have a spellcheck gene in your medulla along with the elite gene.

[qwerty49]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

Sorry Einstein, only a state college grad. We didn't have spelling. I know you Stanford guys have a spellcheck gene in your medulla along with the elite gene.

The Reiterare is an Italian car that goes in circles.  I owned one once.  The circle included the local auto repair shop.  I'm pretty sure I put the owner's kids thru college.

[qwerty49]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

Sorry Einstein, only a state college grad. We didn't have spelling. I know you Stanford guys have a spellcheck gene in your medulla along with the elite gene.

The Reiterare is an Italian car that goes in circles.  I owned one once.  The circle included the local auto repair shop.  I'm pretty sure I put the owner's kids thru college.

[CowboyIndian]

The Reiterare is an Italian car that goes in circles.  I owned one once.  The circle included the local auto repair shop.  I'm pretty sure I put the owner's kids thru college.

Reiterare is Latin for buying commercial real estate. Phogge should know that, having gone to SI.

[CowboyIndian]

The Reiterare is an Italian car that goes in circles.  I owned one once.  The circle included the local auto repair shop.  I'm pretty sure I put the owner's kids thru college.

Reiterare is Latin for buying commercial real estate. Phogge should know that, having gone to SI.

[martyup]

I keep coming to this thread thinking I'll see the news of our new football coach.

[martyup]

I keep coming to this thread thinking I'll see the news of our new football coach.

[gailtate]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

Shaw left the program he inherited in a state a bit different than when he took over.

[gailtate]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

Shaw left the program he inherited in a state a bit different than when he took over.

[82lsju]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

autocorrect/spellcheck often ignores words in all caps assuming it is an acronym

[82lsju]

To REITERARE the Domer punter was asked by a writer. Willingham didn't call the fake punt. He was just following the order to throw when the gunner wasn't covered.

REITERARE?!?

Not even sure how autocorrect got that thru auto spell check. . . .

autocorrect/spellcheck often ignores words in all caps assuming it is an acronym

[Mick]

I'd be fine with Roman -- or frankly, almost anyone -- as long as they:

1) Get three world class coordinators (Off/Def/ST), who can select world class assistants and are able to recruit all over the country. 
2) Sign a world class recruiting coordinator.
3) Employ a world class strength & conditioning lead / team.

[Mick]

I'd be fine with Roman -- or frankly, almost anyone -- as long as they:

1) Get three world class coordinators (Off/Def/ST), who can select world class assistants and are able to recruit all over the country. 
2) Sign a world class recruiting coordinator.
3) Employ a world class strength & conditioning lead / team.

[martyup]

I'd be fine with Roman -- or frankly, almost anyone -- as long as they:

1) Get three world class coordinators (Off/Def/ST), who can select world class assistants and are able to recruit all over the country. 
2) Sign a world class recruiting coordinator.
3) Employ a world class strength & conditioning lead / team.

World? 



Why not shoot for the stars?  Universal!

[martyup]

I'd be fine with Roman -- or frankly, almost anyone -- as long as they:

1) Get three world class coordinators (Off/Def/ST), who can select world class assistants and are able to recruit all over the country. 
2) Sign a world class recruiting coordinator.
3) Employ a world class strength & conditioning lead / team.

World? 



Why not shoot for the stars?  Universal!

[cardcrimson]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

[cardcrimson]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

[lex24]

Has anyone brought up Utah DC, Morgan Scalley?  Ever year they have a good to great defense.  And they are VERY physical.  He also knows the PAC 12.  Plus, why not weaken a rival to boot…..

[lex24]

Has anyone brought up Utah DC, Morgan Scalley?  Ever year they have a good to great defense.  And they are VERY physical.  He also knows the PAC 12.  Plus, why not weaken a rival to boot…..

[StanUSwagU]

Who stays to aid Eubanks to spearhead efforts to retain players and recruits? Lance? The entire staff?

I assume that there is a university “Rooney Rule” in place at Stanford. Who is on the committee to interview candidates?

The World Wonders. Sorry Lord Alfred.

Maybe Eubanks shouldn't stay ?

Maybe we need 'new fresh ideas' across the board for the Football Program; Eubanks after all, was part of the last 4 years of StanfordFootball decline (in recruiting and the exodus/lack of retention of players)

[StanUSwagU]

Who stays to aid Eubanks to spearhead efforts to retain players and recruits? Lance? The entire staff?

I assume that there is a university “Rooney Rule” in place at Stanford. Who is on the committee to interview candidates?

The World Wonders. Sorry Lord Alfred.

Maybe Eubanks shouldn't stay ?

Maybe we need 'new fresh ideas' across the board for the Football Program; Eubanks after all, was part of the last 4 years of StanfordFootball decline (in recruiting and the exodus/lack of retention of players)

[lex24]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

[lex24]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

[StanUSwagU]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

[StanUSwagU]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

[ca245]

Just be aware that it is now believed that there is a massive black hole in the center of each galaxy.

[ca245]

Just be aware that it is now believed that there is a massive black hole in the center of each galaxy.

[cardcrimson]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

Mike DuBose got them on probation and a brobdingnagian number of lost scholarships, driving Dennis Franchione to A&M. Enter Mike Price of strip club and stripper fame, enter and exit Mike Shula. A brobdingnagian mess and an embarrassment for a proud program.

[cardcrimson]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

Mike DuBose got them on probation and a brobdingnagian number of lost scholarships, driving Dennis Franchione to A&M. Enter Mike Price of strip club and stripper fame, enter and exit Mike Shula. A brobdingnagian mess and an embarrassment for a proud program.

[lex24]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

Mike DuBose got them on probation and a of immense proportions number of lost scholarships, driving Dennis Franchione to A&M. Enter Mike Price of strip club and stripper fame, enter and exit Mike Shula. A of immense proportions mess and an embarrassment for a proud program.

Yeah, but the Price story is ….Priceless.

[lex24]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

Mike DuBose got them on probation and a of immense proportions number of lost scholarships, driving Dennis Franchione to A&M. Enter Mike Price of strip club and stripper fame, enter and exit Mike Shula. A of immense proportions mess and an embarrassment for a proud program.

Yeah, but the Price story is ….Priceless.

[Mick]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'  ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

I might suggest that Saban fulfills criteria #2 as well. While he was "only" at Kent State, they went from 1-9 in Saban's soph year to the Tangerine Bowl in Saban's senior year (lost to Tampa) and Don James was their head coach, the same guy who went to 14 bowls in 18 years at Washington. So Saban was exposed to a Hall of Fame coach, and Jack Lambert was on defense with Saban. And as a DB, Saban had to cover Freddie Solomon, future WR of the Super Bowl winning 49ers.  Saban, sort of a smaller, slower version of John Lynch, always spoke very highly of Don James' program and the way he ran and organized things. Incidentally, James' longtime OC (and College HoF Coach) Gary Pinkel played tight end at Kent State.

[Mick]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'  ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

I might suggest that Saban fulfills criteria #2 as well. While he was "only" at Kent State, they went from 1-9 in Saban's soph year to the Tangerine Bowl in Saban's senior year (lost to Tampa) and Don James was their head coach, the same guy who went to 14 bowls in 18 years at Washington. So Saban was exposed to a Hall of Fame coach, and Jack Lambert was on defense with Saban. And as a DB, Saban had to cover Freddie Solomon, future WR of the Super Bowl winning 49ers.  Saban, sort of a smaller, slower version of John Lynch, always spoke very highly of Don James' program and the way he ran and organized things. Incidentally, James' longtime OC (and College HoF Coach) Gary Pinkel played tight end at Kent State.

[GK3]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'  ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

I might suggest that Saban fulfills criteria #2 as well. While he was "only" at Kent State, they went from 1-9 in Saban's soph year to the Tangerine Bowl in Saban's senior year (lost to Tampa) and Don James was their head coach, the same guy who went to 14 bowls in 18 years at Washington. So Saban was exposed to a Hall of Fame coach, and Jack Lambert was on defense with Saban. And as a DB, Saban had to cover Freddie Solomon, future WR of the Super Bowl winning 49ers.  Saban, sort of a smaller, slower version of John Lynch, always spoke very highly of Don James' program and the way he ran and organized things. Incidentally, James' longtime OC (and College HoF Coach) Gary Pinkel played tight end at Kent State.

I think the biggest issue at the moment is the question of Who is in Charge?  I doubt Bernard makes the cut, our Provost wishes the whole program goes away and the University President is digging foxholes and hoping he doesn't have to write his own " I quit " letter.  If there really is a search committee they are going to have to work hard to get the attention of anyone above them who cares at this point in time.  Not a good time to be trying to fix the coaching problem.

[GK3]

Just had to state: [Very much enjoying the posts of OutsiderFan & BostonCard]:


Coach JimHarbaugh turned around StanfordFootball on all fronts [W-L, Getting to the Jan1 BCS OrangeBowl, Recruiting, etc], so lets look at a few of his characteristics , and see if any of the coaches being bandied about match those characteristics:

Not that this is the entire story, but:

(1).  Played in the NFL
(2).  Starred at a Major BigTime College Program [Michigan]
(3).  Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind [EUTM]
(4).  Charismatic
(5).  Stated Slogan/Mission for Stanford Football was something like 'We will reclaim our rightful place atop CollegeFootball & Bow to no other program !'

[All these things make you a magnet for Blue Chip High School Recruits ...and a big part of success at CollegeFootball is Recruiting]

Do any of the names being bandied about, meet these 5 criteria ?

(Yes, I realize some College Football Coaches have had success without the above 5 characteristics, but were they able to take a 2win program to a BCS level; for example CoachShaw won a lot of games, but he didn't have to as a HeadCoach, Turn around a 2 win program into a 10 or 11 win program ...as CoachHarbaugh did).

How many of those criteria did Nick Saban check off when he took over a crappy Alabama program that was both in turmoil and on probation? Any?

“Roll Tide.”  Mike Price……

*********

CardCrimson:

(Good question, I will try to explain):

I think Saban meets criteria 3,4,5 above.

The reason I mention criteria 1 and 2 is that if you have a Coach who 'Played in the NFL' & 'Starred at a BigTime CollegeFootball Program' ....it is that 'extra magnet/cache/evidence' of 'the university being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball' ....for a program that maybe 4&5 star* recruits 'don't perceive as being 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'

Recruits (even in the down years of Alabama) knew Alabama was 'Serious about BigTime CollegeFootball'  ...hence they don't need a Coach to have criteria 1 and 2.

I might suggest that Saban fulfills criteria #2 as well. While he was "only" at Kent State, they went from 1-9 in Saban's soph year to the Tangerine Bowl in Saban's senior year (lost to Tampa) and Don James was their head coach, the same guy who went to 14 bowls in 18 years at Washington. So Saban was exposed to a Hall of Fame coach, and Jack Lambert was on defense with Saban. And as a DB, Saban had to cover Freddie Solomon, future WR of the Super Bowl winning 49ers.  Saban, sort of a smaller, slower version of John Lynch, always spoke very highly of Don James' program and the way he ran and organized things. Incidentally, James' longtime OC (and College HoF Coach) Gary Pinkel played tight end at Kent State.

I think the biggest issue at the moment is the question of Who is in Charge?  I doubt Bernard makes the cut, our Provost wishes the whole program goes away and the University President is digging foxholes and hoping he doesn't have to write his own " I quit " letter.  If there really is a search committee they are going to have to work hard to get the attention of anyone above them who cares at this point in time.  Not a good time to be trying to fix the coaching problem.

[CowboyIndian]

Yeah, but the Price story is ….Priceless.

You might call it "Destiny".

[CowboyIndian]

Yeah, but the Price story is ….Priceless.

You might call it "Destiny".