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75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 07:58 PM)lex24 Wrote: 75. Greatest Stanford player of my lifetime. One of the main reasons I’m a Stanford football fan. And by all accounts a terrific person.
Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote: Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(12-05-2022, 08:46 PM)Red80 Wrote: Plunkett to Vataha was a joy to watch.
WSU HC Jim Sweeney called Plunkett, "The best college football player I've ever seen". That was 1970.
In 1995 Sweeney said, "Jim Plunkett is still the best college football player I've ever seen."
Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 08:41 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
I was there for the two most exciting/emotional games of Stanford football in my lifetime (arguably of all time) in 1970. The matchless beat-down of USC, and the Rose Bowl clincher a month later against UW. I'll never forget Mike Simone with a red rose clenched in teeth post-game. Plunkett rose to both occasions like the champ he was. Bigger the game, the higher his performance. Capped off, of course, on Jan. 1, 1971. I took my dad to the USC game that year. At half-time there was a salute to Ernie Nevers in which they retired jersey #1. After the game my father commented that he had just seen the two best players in Stanford history. Something he would tell anyone who was listening for the rest of his life. I saw every one of Elway's home games. All of them. He was spectacular. Unsurpassed. Still, to me, Plunkett was indisputably best and it's really not even close.
(12-06-2022, 08:41 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
I was there for the two most exciting/emotional games of Stanford football in my lifetime (arguably of all time) in 1970. The matchless beat-down of USC, and the Rose Bowl clincher a month later against UW. I'll never forget Mike Simone with a red rose clenched in teeth post-game. Plunkett rose to both occasions like the champ he was. Bigger the game, the higher his performance. Capped off, of course, on Jan. 1, 1971. I took my dad to the USC game that year. At half-time there was a salute to Ernie Nevers in which they retired jersey #1. After the game my father commented that he had just seen the two best players in Stanford history. Something he would tell anyone who was listening for the rest of his life. I saw every one of Elway's home games. All of them. He was spectacular. Unsurpassed. Still, to me, Plunkett was indisputably best and it's really not even close.
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
(12-06-2022, 08:59 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 08:41 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
I was there for the two most exciting/emotional games of Stanford football in my lifetime (arguably of all time) in 1970. The matchless beat-down of USC, and the Rose Bowl clincher a month later against UW. I'll never forget Mike Simone with a red rose clenched in teeth post-game. Plunkett rose to both occasions like the champ he was. Bigger the game, the higher his performance. Capped off, of course, on Jan. 1, 1971. I took my dad to the USC game that year. At half-time there was a salute to Ernie Nevers in which they retired jersey #1. After the game my father commented that he had just seen the two best players in Stanford history. Something he would tell anyone who was listening for the rest of his life. I saw every one of Elway's home games. All of them. He was spectacular. Unsurpassed. Still, to me, Plunkett was indisputably best and it's really not even close.
That USC game is, and always will be, my No 1 Stanford football game. And agree on Plunkett over Elway while at Stanford. Although I always will wonder what Elway and Stanford could have acheived at Stanford if Walsh stayed.
(12-06-2022, 08:59 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 08:41 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
I was there for the two most exciting/emotional games of Stanford football in my lifetime (arguably of all time) in 1970. The matchless beat-down of USC, and the Rose Bowl clincher a month later against UW. I'll never forget Mike Simone with a red rose clenched in teeth post-game. Plunkett rose to both occasions like the champ he was. Bigger the game, the higher his performance. Capped off, of course, on Jan. 1, 1971. I took my dad to the USC game that year. At half-time there was a salute to Ernie Nevers in which they retired jersey #1. After the game my father commented that he had just seen the two best players in Stanford history. Something he would tell anyone who was listening for the rest of his life. I saw every one of Elway's home games. All of them. He was spectacular. Unsurpassed. Still, to me, Plunkett was indisputably best and it's really not even close.
That USC game is, and always will be, my No 1 Stanford football game. And agree on Plunkett over Elway while at Stanford. Although I always will wonder what Elway and Stanford could have acheived at Stanford if Walsh stayed.
(12-06-2022, 08:22 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
IIRC, that game clinched the title. I believe it was shown through a live feed at Maples. (The game was not televised). But I may be misremembering. Anyone else remember this?
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
Arkansas was favored. They had barely lost”The Game of the Century” to James Street and Texas in ‘69. Montgomery was a good college QB. That win launched Stanford into prominence that year. Was an important part of Plunkett winning the H. Archie Manning was the odds on favorite going into the year. SIs College Football Edition featured the QBs - Plunkett, Pastorini perhaps one other I’m forgetting. Then had an article entitled “And the best of them all is….”Archie”. Being 12 and a big Plunkett fan it took me several years to “forgive” Manning. Another guy who got beat up in the NFL.
(12-06-2022, 08:22 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
IIRC, that game clinched the title. I believe it was shown through a live feed at Maples. (The game was not televised). But I may be misremembering. Anyone else remember this?
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:06 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Vaguely remember Plunkett when he played at Stanford. Plunkett to Vataha was pretty much it. Should be in the HOF, if only for surviving the epic mistreatment by the Patriots, then ignored by the Niners, only to recover to win not one, but two Super Bowls. Was in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum when he replaced Pastorini, and in the Superdome when he won his first championship later that year. Hard not to root for the guy.
However, Elway was probably the best I've seen. Biased though, as he was in my class. . . .
Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
Arkansas was favored. They had barely lost”The Game of the Century” to James Street and Texas in ‘69. Montgomery was a good college QB. That win launched Stanford into prominence that year. Was an important part of Plunkett winning the H. Archie Manning was the odds on favorite going into the year. SIs College Football Edition featured the QBs - Plunkett, Pastorini perhaps one other I’m forgetting. Then had an article entitled “And the best of them all is….”Archie”. Being 12 and a big Plunkett fan it took me several years to “forgive” Manning. Another guy who got beat up in the NFL.
(12-06-2022, 09:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
Interesting because ten years earlier I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. A great time to be a Husky fan as they went to three Rose Bowls in five years. Actually Jim Owens' career there somewhat paralleled Shaw's. A lot of success early and then things gradually declined.
(12-06-2022, 09:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
Interesting because ten years earlier I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. A great time to be a Husky fan as they went to three Rose Bowls in five years. Actually Jim Owens' career there somewhat paralleled Shaw's. A lot of success early and then things gradually declined.
(12-06-2022, 02:00 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 08:22 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
IIRC, that game clinched the title. I believe it was shown through a live feed at Maples. (The game was not televised). But I may be misremembering. Anyone else remember this?
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote: Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
Arkansas was favored. They had barely lost”The Game of the Century” to James Street and Texas in ‘69. Montgomery was a good college QB. That win launched Stanford into prominence that year. Was an important part of Plunkett winning the H. Archie Manning was the odds on favorite going into the year. SIs College Football Edition featured the QBs - Plunkett, Pastorini perhaps one other I’m forgetting. Then had an article entitled “And the best of them all is….”Archie”. Being 12 and a big Plunkett fan it took me several years to “forgive” Manning. Another guy who got beat up in the NFL.
The 1970 UW game was televised by ABC. Wilkinson and Schenkel were the announcers. I actually have the DVD.
(12-06-2022, 02:00 PM)Red80 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 08:22 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 06:27 AM)Austroturf Wrote: During the Plunkett era, I was a young Husky fan living in Seattle. Washington had a talented young QB by the name of Sonny Sixkiller (no match for Plunkett's abilities, but an excellent collegiate QB); and we were hoping for an upset victory down on the Farm. But Plunkett out-dueled Sixkiller to lead Stanford to a 29-22 victory en route to a Pac-8 title and a Rose Bowl berth.
Washington finished in a 4-way tie for second at 4-3. Frankly, I was happy to see Stanford win the conference title because I was so sick of seeing USC win. It was a refreshing spectacle to see Stanford in the Rose Bowl; and since Plunkett and his story were so inspiring, you simply had to like the guy (even if he had just punked your team).
IIRC, that game clinched the title. I believe it was shown through a live feed at Maples. (The game was not televised). But I may be misremembering. Anyone else remember this?
(12-06-2022, 06:30 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-06-2022, 12:11 AM)Red80 Wrote:(12-05-2022, 09:51 PM)lex24 Wrote: Had a lot more than Vataha at Stanford. Jack Lassiter was a good WR. Bob Moore a great TE. Jackie Brown one of the most underrated Stanford RB’s (He would have been an NFL back, but didn’t want to play in NFL. Became a lawyer instead.) Hillary Shockley an excellent FB. Eric Cross his third or fourth wide receiver (Ran a reverse first play of Rose Bowl.) Demea Washington another good receiver. John Sande at Center.
Defense - Thunder Chickens, Jeff Siemon, Benny Barnes. Charles McCloud. To name a few.
That was a great football team.
No bigger Elway fan than I. And, of course, the much better pro. But Jim Plunkett is the greatest Stanford QB. As for NE - I’ve hated them ever since.
Shockley was nicknamed "The Runaway Babe". A fullback with breakaway speed. I remember him running about 60 yards for a TD vs Arkansas in the nationally televised season opener in 1970.
Interesting guy and a great interview. He said he quit the team before the Rose Bowl vs Michigan because of a dispute with the coaches. A decision that he still regrets. He later "bombed out" of Stanford Law School before making a fortune in real estate.
I remember that Arkansas game. I was so sure we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory the way we had the previous year against Purdue and U$C. Very pleasantly surprised when we didn't.
Arkansas was favored. They had barely lost”The Game of the Century” to James Street and Texas in ‘69. Montgomery was a good college QB. That win launched Stanford into prominence that year. Was an important part of Plunkett winning the H. Archie Manning was the odds on favorite going into the year. SIs College Football Edition featured the QBs - Plunkett, Pastorini perhaps one other I’m forgetting. Then had an article entitled “And the best of them all is….”Archie”. Being 12 and a big Plunkett fan it took me several years to “forgive” Manning. Another guy who got beat up in the NFL.
The 1970 UW game was televised by ABC. Wilkinson and Schenkel were the announcers. I actually have the DVD.