12-09-2022, 11:33 AM
Football Recruiting Class of 2023
12-09-2022, 12:18 PM
more on Myles Jackson
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/recr...tid=Zxz2cZ
Quote:"It's everything you could want in a school and like I said, I'm comfortable with the situation now in terms of waiting to see who the new head coach will be. I heard it could happen soon, they could name someone by the weekend so I'm just being patient on that."
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/recr...tid=Zxz2cZ
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
more on Myles Jackson
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/recr...tid=Zxz2cZ
Quote:"It's everything you could want in a school and like I said, I'm comfortable with the situation now in terms of waiting to see who the new head coach will be. I heard it could happen soon, they could name someone by the weekend so I'm just being patient on that."
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/recr...tid=Zxz2cZ
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
12-09-2022, 12:26 PM
sounds like it's a "wait for Sac State to finish up its game and name Taylor" situation.
sounds like it's a "wait for Sac State to finish up its game and name Taylor" situation.
12-09-2022, 03:43 PM
(12-09-2022, 11:33 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(12-09-2022, 11:24 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: How does one reclassify one's graduating class? How does one graduate early and still have the academic transcripts and and associated challenges that Stanford requires?
He has taken multiple college classes and full summer quarters since freshman year.
Wilfredo Aybar also reclassified and enrolled one year early.
(12-09-2022, 11:33 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(12-09-2022, 11:24 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: How does one reclassify one's graduating class? How does one graduate early and still have the academic transcripts and and associated challenges that Stanford requires?
He has taken multiple college classes and full summer quarters since freshman year.
Wilfredo Aybar also reclassified and enrolled one year early.
12-10-2022, 04:45 PM
At least one recruit is pleased with the Taylor hire: https://twitter.com/PaleSimione/status/1...8315618304
At least one recruit is pleased with the Taylor hire: https://twitter.com/PaleSimione/status/1...8315618304
12-14-2022, 12:30 AM
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ismaelcisse_/status/1602461761856118784?s=61&t=8PnXV1FdQ3B5uq9Fl0JQjA[/tweet]
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/ismaelcisse_/status/1602461761856118784?s=61&t=8PnXV1FdQ3B5uq9Fl0JQjA[/tweet]
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12-14-2022, 09:03 AM
(12-14-2022, 01:23 AM)newguy Wrote:(12-14-2022, 12:30 AM)BostonCard Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ismaelcisse_/status/1602461761856118784?s=61&t=8PnXV1FdQ3B5uq9Fl0JQjA[/tweet]
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three predictions saying Stanford.
Here's a preseason interview:
Diamond in the Rough: Ismael Cisse | Gridiron Football (gridironfootballusa.com)
He seems to be a serious student of the WR position. And as a former QB, might offer the potential for a trick play or two.
Geaux Cardinal!
(12-14-2022, 01:23 AM)newguy Wrote:(12-14-2022, 12:30 AM)BostonCard Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ismaelcisse_/status/1602461761856118784?s=61&t=8PnXV1FdQ3B5uq9Fl0JQjA[/tweet]
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three predictions saying Stanford.
Here's a preseason interview:
Diamond in the Rough: Ismael Cisse | Gridiron Football (gridironfootballusa.com)
He seems to be a serious student of the WR position. And as a former QB, might offer the potential for a trick play or two.
Geaux Cardinal!
12-14-2022, 11:56 AM
[tweet]https://twitter.com/IsmaelCisse_/status/1603090265408999424[/tweet]
Yep
Yep
12-15-2022, 10:22 AM
For those who missed this it’s the Big Visit Weekend this weekend
Hopefully all those committed to Stanford come to meet Taylor and those assistants hired by then.
Hopefully all those committed to Stanford come to meet Taylor and those assistants hired by then.
12-15-2022, 12:29 PM
While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
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While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
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12-15-2022, 01:59 PM
(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
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Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Cal delenda est
(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Cal delenda est
Four dimensional analysis on Jackson:
Services: 247 composite #424 (#27 QB), On3 consensus #366 (#22 QB), 247 #29 QB, On3 #34 QB, Rivals #13 pro-style QB (still needs to be rationalized in their rankings but if those hold....right behind Dylan Lonergan, the last pro-style QB in the top 250) and a 5.8 on Rivals (the only QB commits in Stanford history with that grade were Josh Nunes and Kellen Kiilsgaard), ESPN #23 pocket passer QB (13 in the top 300, so clearly a lower evaluation than others)
Offers: Stanford, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern, Kentucky, Louisville, Mississippi State, Nevada, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Rutgers, San Jose State, Texas A&M, UNLV, Washington
Production: As a junior (but last season as he reclassified up a grade) playing against awful competition (bottom 14 percent of Shaw recruits, and Jackson didn't even play against Long Beach Poly), Jackson completed 66.9 percent of his passes for 3620 yards (12.48 yards per attempt), 47 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions, for a sublime 139.4 rating; rushing he had 476 yards and 9 touchdowns on 5.3 yards per carry. The yards per attempt is silly, just behind the best I've ever recorded for a Stanford QB (McKee's 12.58 as a junior). The yardage and touchdown numbers broke 20+ year old Moore League records held by former Stanford QB1 Chris Lewis. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving but even more impressively two had 984+ and nobody accounted for more than 28.2 percent of the passing offense. As a sophomore, he completed 56.7 percent of his passes for 2607 yards (8.28 yards per attempt), 32 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions, for a 101.1 rating; on the ground he had 198 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns on 2.3 yards per carry. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving and nobody accounted for more than 27 percent of the passing offense. I share these stats on share of passing offense to show that the passing attack was QB-driven rather than WR-driven, although junior WR Jordan Anderson is currently ranked as a whale.
Highlights: The sophomore highlights have a decent variety. Arm strength didn't blow me away. There's a fair amount of moving the pocket/sprint out kind of stuff. Against Long Beach Poly, Jackson battled against a slew of major players, notably including two top corners, LSU borderline whale commit Daylen Austin and current Massachusetts corner Donovan Turner. Jackson managed to get through that whole game without throwing an interception despite airing it out 48 times (though a snap did get bobbled with the nose tackle, now Arizona OL Wendell Moe, bearing down). He completed less than half his passes in that game, with Austin and Turner each having about three pass breakups and the Jackrabbit defense combining for 13, but Jackson battled for 260 yards and 3 touchdowns. His strategy that game was to throw a bunch of quick release short passes, one of which went to the house on a long run after the catch, though two touchdowns came on out routes. Solidly impressive in a loss for a sophomore. The other notable matchup that year came against 2024 4-star RB Jordan Washington, playing cornerback for Jordan. Jackson got the big play, a 70 yard touchdown on a slant to Washington's man, though Washington did break up two other slants at the goal line, so both then-sophomores had their moments. Jackson got depantsed in a matchup of then-sophomore star QBs, completing 4 of 14 passes for 94 yards and no touchdowns against Carslbad while Alabama mega whale commit Julian Sayin completed 9 of 15 for 191 yards and 3 touchdowns. I couldn't find San Jose State edge commit Alexander Cobbs on the tape for the St. Anthony game, nor did Cobbs post highlights of that game in his season highlight, so we probably missed our chance to see Jackson as a sophomore against a major college football rusher. He did get that chance as a junior, though, one of the more interesting highlights available on him. Against Cathedral Jackson vs. 3-star Oklahoma DL commit Ashton Sanders looked like good on good. Sanders had a half sack he deserved most of the credit on (didn't see anything Jackson could have done differently), forced a fumble when he met Jackson and the running back in the mesh on a hand off, and generally was getting pressure all night. For his part, Jackson made numerous throws on the run after Sanders flushed him out and, despite two interceptions, had a solid stat line (300+ yards, 98.2 rating). Aside from that game, though, there's nothing to go on in his junior (final due to reclassification) year in terms of good competition. Jordan Washington didn't play defense in the Jordan game and Jackson didn't play in the Long Beach Poly game due to injury. Real bummer not to get to see him square off again against Daylen Austin before their high school careers ended. Overall, as you can imagine from the stats the junior highlights are much more impressive than the sophomore highlights. The arm strength is more evident. He does damage on slants, outs, and loading up on deep balls. He looks even better throwing on the move, and he looks like a different guy scrambling (a few plays really toying with defenses).
Very big news on two levels: what was threatening to be a disastrous whiff on a 2023 QB gets bailed out with a solid QB prospect, and Stanford gets a full year acceleration/reclassification (reinforcing what we learned from the Aybar recruitment and the move to early enrollees that there is flexibility on those fronts now). There are two ways to think about Myles Jackson, both valid IMHO. Optimist: he's a very competitive Power Five talent who dominated his final year and now looks to be a significant boost to Stanford's QB competition going forward. Pessimist: Stanford continues to recruit QB prospects we would have scoffed at for about 50 years. On the optimistic note, I think Jackson should immediately be on fairly level competitive footing with Patu and Daniels. The Shaw era is over and we should now have open competitions, playbooks/schemes that aren't ludicrous/designed to make life hard on QBs, and a coach who can pick QBs (hopefully). Patu's age experience seems almost meaningless with how little real football he's played - Jackson got more action this fall than Patu has had in 4-5 years. Daniels has an arm and proven ability in a college running package but is only a year ahead and had much less impressive high school production or tape. On the pessimistic note, I did an analysis of our historical QB recruiting earlier in the year and Jackson adds to our recent history of recruiting guys well below the Stanford standard. For about 50 years the Kiilsgaard/Pritchard/Loukas echelon was as low as we would go, and now we'll have an entire QB room that level or worse in the eyes of recruiting rankings. The counter-argument for Jackson is that he was so dominant as a junior. That's fair, but I have not found that high school production correlates very nicely with college play for QBs. Hogan, Luck, and Costello had three of the four lowest yards per attempt high school seasons I've calculated among Stanford QBs. Ultimately, barring a transfer, the QB room going forward looks like the lowest point it's been in 15 years and arguably ever, so we're going to have to rely on coaching and should prioritize 2024 QB recruiting; however, I don't think it can be overstated how much easier being a QB under Taylor should be than under Shaw, so we can't rule out that one of our new trio can be quite successful. And among the three Jackson may be my favorite.
Services: 247 composite #424 (#27 QB), On3 consensus #366 (#22 QB), 247 #29 QB, On3 #34 QB, Rivals #13 pro-style QB (still needs to be rationalized in their rankings but if those hold....right behind Dylan Lonergan, the last pro-style QB in the top 250) and a 5.8 on Rivals (the only QB commits in Stanford history with that grade were Josh Nunes and Kellen Kiilsgaard), ESPN #23 pocket passer QB (13 in the top 300, so clearly a lower evaluation than others)
Offers: Stanford, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern, Kentucky, Louisville, Mississippi State, Nevada, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Rutgers, San Jose State, Texas A&M, UNLV, Washington
Production: As a junior (but last season as he reclassified up a grade) playing against awful competition (bottom 14 percent of Shaw recruits, and Jackson didn't even play against Long Beach Poly), Jackson completed 66.9 percent of his passes for 3620 yards (12.48 yards per attempt), 47 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions, for a sublime 139.4 rating; rushing he had 476 yards and 9 touchdowns on 5.3 yards per carry. The yards per attempt is silly, just behind the best I've ever recorded for a Stanford QB (McKee's 12.58 as a junior). The yardage and touchdown numbers broke 20+ year old Moore League records held by former Stanford QB1 Chris Lewis. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving but even more impressively two had 984+ and nobody accounted for more than 28.2 percent of the passing offense. As a sophomore, he completed 56.7 percent of his passes for 2607 yards (8.28 yards per attempt), 32 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions, for a 101.1 rating; on the ground he had 198 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns on 2.3 yards per carry. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving and nobody accounted for more than 27 percent of the passing offense. I share these stats on share of passing offense to show that the passing attack was QB-driven rather than WR-driven, although junior WR Jordan Anderson is currently ranked as a whale.
Highlights: The sophomore highlights have a decent variety. Arm strength didn't blow me away. There's a fair amount of moving the pocket/sprint out kind of stuff. Against Long Beach Poly, Jackson battled against a slew of major players, notably including two top corners, LSU borderline whale commit Daylen Austin and current Massachusetts corner Donovan Turner. Jackson managed to get through that whole game without throwing an interception despite airing it out 48 times (though a snap did get bobbled with the nose tackle, now Arizona OL Wendell Moe, bearing down). He completed less than half his passes in that game, with Austin and Turner each having about three pass breakups and the Jackrabbit defense combining for 13, but Jackson battled for 260 yards and 3 touchdowns. His strategy that game was to throw a bunch of quick release short passes, one of which went to the house on a long run after the catch, though two touchdowns came on out routes. Solidly impressive in a loss for a sophomore. The other notable matchup that year came against 2024 4-star RB Jordan Washington, playing cornerback for Jordan. Jackson got the big play, a 70 yard touchdown on a slant to Washington's man, though Washington did break up two other slants at the goal line, so both then-sophomores had their moments. Jackson got depantsed in a matchup of then-sophomore star QBs, completing 4 of 14 passes for 94 yards and no touchdowns against Carslbad while Alabama mega whale commit Julian Sayin completed 9 of 15 for 191 yards and 3 touchdowns. I couldn't find San Jose State edge commit Alexander Cobbs on the tape for the St. Anthony game, nor did Cobbs post highlights of that game in his season highlight, so we probably missed our chance to see Jackson as a sophomore against a major college football rusher. He did get that chance as a junior, though, one of the more interesting highlights available on him. Against Cathedral Jackson vs. 3-star Oklahoma DL commit Ashton Sanders looked like good on good. Sanders had a half sack he deserved most of the credit on (didn't see anything Jackson could have done differently), forced a fumble when he met Jackson and the running back in the mesh on a hand off, and generally was getting pressure all night. For his part, Jackson made numerous throws on the run after Sanders flushed him out and, despite two interceptions, had a solid stat line (300+ yards, 98.2 rating). Aside from that game, though, there's nothing to go on in his junior (final due to reclassification) year in terms of good competition. Jordan Washington didn't play defense in the Jordan game and Jackson didn't play in the Long Beach Poly game due to injury. Real bummer not to get to see him square off again against Daylen Austin before their high school careers ended. Overall, as you can imagine from the stats the junior highlights are much more impressive than the sophomore highlights. The arm strength is more evident. He does damage on slants, outs, and loading up on deep balls. He looks even better throwing on the move, and he looks like a different guy scrambling (a few plays really toying with defenses).
Very big news on two levels: what was threatening to be a disastrous whiff on a 2023 QB gets bailed out with a solid QB prospect, and Stanford gets a full year acceleration/reclassification (reinforcing what we learned from the Aybar recruitment and the move to early enrollees that there is flexibility on those fronts now). There are two ways to think about Myles Jackson, both valid IMHO. Optimist: he's a very competitive Power Five talent who dominated his final year and now looks to be a significant boost to Stanford's QB competition going forward. Pessimist: Stanford continues to recruit QB prospects we would have scoffed at for about 50 years. On the optimistic note, I think Jackson should immediately be on fairly level competitive footing with Patu and Daniels. The Shaw era is over and we should now have open competitions, playbooks/schemes that aren't ludicrous/designed to make life hard on QBs, and a coach who can pick QBs (hopefully). Patu's age experience seems almost meaningless with how little real football he's played - Jackson got more action this fall than Patu has had in 4-5 years. Daniels has an arm and proven ability in a college running package but is only a year ahead and had much less impressive high school production or tape. On the pessimistic note, I did an analysis of our historical QB recruiting earlier in the year and Jackson adds to our recent history of recruiting guys well below the Stanford standard. For about 50 years the Kiilsgaard/Pritchard/Loukas echelon was as low as we would go, and now we'll have an entire QB room that level or worse in the eyes of recruiting rankings. The counter-argument for Jackson is that he was so dominant as a junior. That's fair, but I have not found that high school production correlates very nicely with college play for QBs. Hogan, Luck, and Costello had three of the four lowest yards per attempt high school seasons I've calculated among Stanford QBs. Ultimately, barring a transfer, the QB room going forward looks like the lowest point it's been in 15 years and arguably ever, so we're going to have to rely on coaching and should prioritize 2024 QB recruiting; however, I don't think it can be overstated how much easier being a QB under Taylor should be than under Shaw, so we can't rule out that one of our new trio can be quite successful. And among the three Jackson may be my favorite.
Four dimensional analysis on Jackson:
Services: 247 composite #424 (#27 QB), On3 consensus #366 (#22 QB), 247 #29 QB, On3 #34 QB, Rivals #13 pro-style QB (still needs to be rationalized in their rankings but if those hold....right behind Dylan Lonergan, the last pro-style QB in the top 250) and a 5.8 on Rivals (the only QB commits in Stanford history with that grade were Josh Nunes and Kellen Kiilsgaard), ESPN #23 pocket passer QB (13 in the top 300, so clearly a lower evaluation than others)
Offers: Stanford, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern, Kentucky, Louisville, Mississippi State, Nevada, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Rutgers, San Jose State, Texas A&M, UNLV, Washington
Production: As a junior (but last season as he reclassified up a grade) playing against awful competition (bottom 14 percent of Shaw recruits, and Jackson didn't even play against Long Beach Poly), Jackson completed 66.9 percent of his passes for 3620 yards (12.48 yards per attempt), 47 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions, for a sublime 139.4 rating; rushing he had 476 yards and 9 touchdowns on 5.3 yards per carry. The yards per attempt is silly, just behind the best I've ever recorded for a Stanford QB (McKee's 12.58 as a junior). The yardage and touchdown numbers broke 20+ year old Moore League records held by former Stanford QB1 Chris Lewis. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving but even more impressively two had 984+ and nobody accounted for more than 28.2 percent of the passing offense. As a sophomore, he completed 56.7 percent of his passes for 2607 yards (8.28 yards per attempt), 32 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions, for a 101.1 rating; on the ground he had 198 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns on 2.3 yards per carry. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving and nobody accounted for more than 27 percent of the passing offense. I share these stats on share of passing offense to show that the passing attack was QB-driven rather than WR-driven, although junior WR Jordan Anderson is currently ranked as a whale.
Highlights: The sophomore highlights have a decent variety. Arm strength didn't blow me away. There's a fair amount of moving the pocket/sprint out kind of stuff. Against Long Beach Poly, Jackson battled against a slew of major players, notably including two top corners, LSU borderline whale commit Daylen Austin and current Massachusetts corner Donovan Turner. Jackson managed to get through that whole game without throwing an interception despite airing it out 48 times (though a snap did get bobbled with the nose tackle, now Arizona OL Wendell Moe, bearing down). He completed less than half his passes in that game, with Austin and Turner each having about three pass breakups and the Jackrabbit defense combining for 13, but Jackson battled for 260 yards and 3 touchdowns. His strategy that game was to throw a bunch of quick release short passes, one of which went to the house on a long run after the catch, though two touchdowns came on out routes. Solidly impressive in a loss for a sophomore. The other notable matchup that year came against 2024 4-star RB Jordan Washington, playing cornerback for Jordan. Jackson got the big play, a 70 yard touchdown on a slant to Washington's man, though Washington did break up two other slants at the goal line, so both then-sophomores had their moments. Jackson got depantsed in a matchup of then-sophomore star QBs, completing 4 of 14 passes for 94 yards and no touchdowns against Carslbad while Alabama mega whale commit Julian Sayin completed 9 of 15 for 191 yards and 3 touchdowns. I couldn't find San Jose State edge commit Alexander Cobbs on the tape for the St. Anthony game, nor did Cobbs post highlights of that game in his season highlight, so we probably missed our chance to see Jackson as a sophomore against a major college football rusher. He did get that chance as a junior, though, one of the more interesting highlights available on him. Against Cathedral Jackson vs. 3-star Oklahoma DL commit Ashton Sanders looked like good on good. Sanders had a half sack he deserved most of the credit on (didn't see anything Jackson could have done differently), forced a fumble when he met Jackson and the running back in the mesh on a hand off, and generally was getting pressure all night. For his part, Jackson made numerous throws on the run after Sanders flushed him out and, despite two interceptions, had a solid stat line (300+ yards, 98.2 rating). Aside from that game, though, there's nothing to go on in his junior (final due to reclassification) year in terms of good competition. Jordan Washington didn't play defense in the Jordan game and Jackson didn't play in the Long Beach Poly game due to injury. Real bummer not to get to see him square off again against Daylen Austin before their high school careers ended. Overall, as you can imagine from the stats the junior highlights are much more impressive than the sophomore highlights. The arm strength is more evident. He does damage on slants, outs, and loading up on deep balls. He looks even better throwing on the move, and he looks like a different guy scrambling (a few plays really toying with defenses).
Very big news on two levels: what was threatening to be a disastrous whiff on a 2023 QB gets bailed out with a solid QB prospect, and Stanford gets a full year acceleration/reclassification (reinforcing what we learned from the Aybar recruitment and the move to early enrollees that there is flexibility on those fronts now). There are two ways to think about Myles Jackson, both valid IMHO. Optimist: he's a very competitive Power Five talent who dominated his final year and now looks to be a significant boost to Stanford's QB competition going forward. Pessimist: Stanford continues to recruit QB prospects we would have scoffed at for about 50 years. On the optimistic note, I think Jackson should immediately be on fairly level competitive footing with Patu and Daniels. The Shaw era is over and we should now have open competitions, playbooks/schemes that aren't ludicrous/designed to make life hard on QBs, and a coach who can pick QBs (hopefully). Patu's age experience seems almost meaningless with how little real football he's played - Jackson got more action this fall than Patu has had in 4-5 years. Daniels has an arm and proven ability in a college running package but is only a year ahead and had much less impressive high school production or tape. On the pessimistic note, I did an analysis of our historical QB recruiting earlier in the year and Jackson adds to our recent history of recruiting guys well below the Stanford standard. For about 50 years the Kiilsgaard/Pritchard/Loukas echelon was as low as we would go, and now we'll have an entire QB room that level or worse in the eyes of recruiting rankings. The counter-argument for Jackson is that he was so dominant as a junior. That's fair, but I have not found that high school production correlates very nicely with college play for QBs. Hogan, Luck, and Costello had three of the four lowest yards per attempt high school seasons I've calculated among Stanford QBs. Ultimately, barring a transfer, the QB room going forward looks like the lowest point it's been in 15 years and arguably ever, so we're going to have to rely on coaching and should prioritize 2024 QB recruiting; however, I don't think it can be overstated how much easier being a QB under Taylor should be than under Shaw, so we can't rule out that one of our new trio can be quite successful. And among the three Jackson may be my favorite.
Services: 247 composite #424 (#27 QB), On3 consensus #366 (#22 QB), 247 #29 QB, On3 #34 QB, Rivals #13 pro-style QB (still needs to be rationalized in their rankings but if those hold....right behind Dylan Lonergan, the last pro-style QB in the top 250) and a 5.8 on Rivals (the only QB commits in Stanford history with that grade were Josh Nunes and Kellen Kiilsgaard), ESPN #23 pocket passer QB (13 in the top 300, so clearly a lower evaluation than others)
Offers: Stanford, Arizona, Auburn, Boston College, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, Fresno State, Georgia Southern, Kentucky, Louisville, Mississippi State, Nevada, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Rutgers, San Jose State, Texas A&M, UNLV, Washington
Production: As a junior (but last season as he reclassified up a grade) playing against awful competition (bottom 14 percent of Shaw recruits, and Jackson didn't even play against Long Beach Poly), Jackson completed 66.9 percent of his passes for 3620 yards (12.48 yards per attempt), 47 touchdowns, and 7 interceptions, for a sublime 139.4 rating; rushing he had 476 yards and 9 touchdowns on 5.3 yards per carry. The yards per attempt is silly, just behind the best I've ever recorded for a Stanford QB (McKee's 12.58 as a junior). The yardage and touchdown numbers broke 20+ year old Moore League records held by former Stanford QB1 Chris Lewis. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving but even more impressively two had 984+ and nobody accounted for more than 28.2 percent of the passing offense. As a sophomore, he completed 56.7 percent of his passes for 2607 yards (8.28 yards per attempt), 32 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions, for a 101.1 rating; on the ground he had 198 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns on 2.3 yards per carry. Five receivers had 300+ yards receiving and nobody accounted for more than 27 percent of the passing offense. I share these stats on share of passing offense to show that the passing attack was QB-driven rather than WR-driven, although junior WR Jordan Anderson is currently ranked as a whale.
Highlights: The sophomore highlights have a decent variety. Arm strength didn't blow me away. There's a fair amount of moving the pocket/sprint out kind of stuff. Against Long Beach Poly, Jackson battled against a slew of major players, notably including two top corners, LSU borderline whale commit Daylen Austin and current Massachusetts corner Donovan Turner. Jackson managed to get through that whole game without throwing an interception despite airing it out 48 times (though a snap did get bobbled with the nose tackle, now Arizona OL Wendell Moe, bearing down). He completed less than half his passes in that game, with Austin and Turner each having about three pass breakups and the Jackrabbit defense combining for 13, but Jackson battled for 260 yards and 3 touchdowns. His strategy that game was to throw a bunch of quick release short passes, one of which went to the house on a long run after the catch, though two touchdowns came on out routes. Solidly impressive in a loss for a sophomore. The other notable matchup that year came against 2024 4-star RB Jordan Washington, playing cornerback for Jordan. Jackson got the big play, a 70 yard touchdown on a slant to Washington's man, though Washington did break up two other slants at the goal line, so both then-sophomores had their moments. Jackson got depantsed in a matchup of then-sophomore star QBs, completing 4 of 14 passes for 94 yards and no touchdowns against Carslbad while Alabama mega whale commit Julian Sayin completed 9 of 15 for 191 yards and 3 touchdowns. I couldn't find San Jose State edge commit Alexander Cobbs on the tape for the St. Anthony game, nor did Cobbs post highlights of that game in his season highlight, so we probably missed our chance to see Jackson as a sophomore against a major college football rusher. He did get that chance as a junior, though, one of the more interesting highlights available on him. Against Cathedral Jackson vs. 3-star Oklahoma DL commit Ashton Sanders looked like good on good. Sanders had a half sack he deserved most of the credit on (didn't see anything Jackson could have done differently), forced a fumble when he met Jackson and the running back in the mesh on a hand off, and generally was getting pressure all night. For his part, Jackson made numerous throws on the run after Sanders flushed him out and, despite two interceptions, had a solid stat line (300+ yards, 98.2 rating). Aside from that game, though, there's nothing to go on in his junior (final due to reclassification) year in terms of good competition. Jordan Washington didn't play defense in the Jordan game and Jackson didn't play in the Long Beach Poly game due to injury. Real bummer not to get to see him square off again against Daylen Austin before their high school careers ended. Overall, as you can imagine from the stats the junior highlights are much more impressive than the sophomore highlights. The arm strength is more evident. He does damage on slants, outs, and loading up on deep balls. He looks even better throwing on the move, and he looks like a different guy scrambling (a few plays really toying with defenses).
Very big news on two levels: what was threatening to be a disastrous whiff on a 2023 QB gets bailed out with a solid QB prospect, and Stanford gets a full year acceleration/reclassification (reinforcing what we learned from the Aybar recruitment and the move to early enrollees that there is flexibility on those fronts now). There are two ways to think about Myles Jackson, both valid IMHO. Optimist: he's a very competitive Power Five talent who dominated his final year and now looks to be a significant boost to Stanford's QB competition going forward. Pessimist: Stanford continues to recruit QB prospects we would have scoffed at for about 50 years. On the optimistic note, I think Jackson should immediately be on fairly level competitive footing with Patu and Daniels. The Shaw era is over and we should now have open competitions, playbooks/schemes that aren't ludicrous/designed to make life hard on QBs, and a coach who can pick QBs (hopefully). Patu's age experience seems almost meaningless with how little real football he's played - Jackson got more action this fall than Patu has had in 4-5 years. Daniels has an arm and proven ability in a college running package but is only a year ahead and had much less impressive high school production or tape. On the pessimistic note, I did an analysis of our historical QB recruiting earlier in the year and Jackson adds to our recent history of recruiting guys well below the Stanford standard. For about 50 years the Kiilsgaard/Pritchard/Loukas echelon was as low as we would go, and now we'll have an entire QB room that level or worse in the eyes of recruiting rankings. The counter-argument for Jackson is that he was so dominant as a junior. That's fair, but I have not found that high school production correlates very nicely with college play for QBs. Hogan, Luck, and Costello had three of the four lowest yards per attempt high school seasons I've calculated among Stanford QBs. Ultimately, barring a transfer, the QB room going forward looks like the lowest point it's been in 15 years and arguably ever, so we're going to have to rely on coaching and should prioritize 2024 QB recruiting; however, I don't think it can be overstated how much easier being a QB under Taylor should be than under Shaw, so we can't rule out that one of our new trio can be quite successful. And among the three Jackson may be my favorite.
12-16-2022, 03:33 AM
(12-15-2022, 09:02 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Now it looks like Platt may bail on us.
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foot...rida-visit
(12-15-2022, 09:02 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Now it looks like Platt may bail on us.
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foot...rida-visit
12-16-2022, 04:13 AM
(12-16-2022, 03:33 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 09:02 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Now it looks like Platt may bail on us.
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foot...rida-visit
this is double-plus ungood.
Cal delenda est
(12-16-2022, 03:33 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 09:02 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-15-2022, 01:59 PM)msqueri Wrote:(12-15-2022, 12:29 PM)BostonCard Wrote: While this is a good test to see if Taylor can prioritize between a ton of things (finding a staff, meeting with the current team, convincing those in the portal to come back, recruiting) I think making sure that the incoming commits stay and sign will be super important.
BC
Super important but also not that hard. Shaw tended to recruit self-selectors. Stanford Men aren't likely to bail on us due to a coaching change, especially not one the improves morale. And frankly this class isn't good enough to face a lot of threats from other programs trying to poach our guys. In the transfer portal era other teams have shifted to that avenue for stocking the roster, so they're not going to be falling over themselves to get a bunch of 3-stars currently committed to Stanford. The players we had in the fold other teams would really want, Lyons and Clegg, have already decommitted. Our class has zero whales. It doesn't even have anybody in the same genus as a whale. We have zero composite top 200 recruits and two top 400. It's a bad class so it won't be that hard to hang on to it. But yes, very important Taylor hangs on to as much as possible.
surely Jaden Platt is a cetacean of some kind.
Now it looks like Platt may bail on us.
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foot...rida-visit
this is double-plus ungood.
Cal delenda est
12-16-2022, 07:48 AM
Just more proof that the number of offers must go way up and if you are going to act like the big boys you may have to pull some.
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