01-09-2023, 07:41 PM
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Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
NCAA Championship The Championship Game Thread
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01-09-2023, 08:47 PM
What an embarrassing mismatch. Is it true we said no to Bowers who wanted to come to the Farm?
What an embarrassing mismatch. Is it true we said no to Bowers who wanted to come to the Farm?
01-09-2023, 09:30 PM
We were not in Bowers top-8, though that could reflect lack of interest on Stanford’s part.
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We were not in Bowers top-8, though that could reflect lack of interest on Stanford’s part.
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01-09-2023, 09:54 PM
PU, what a stinker. TCU train wreck.
Why don't we try letting football fans/viewers vote on the matchups?
Why don't we try letting football fans/viewers vote on the matchups?
Pax et Bonum
PU, what a stinker. TCU train wreck.
Why don't we try letting football fans/viewers vote on the matchups?
Why don't we try letting football fans/viewers vote on the matchups?
Pax et Bonum
01-10-2023, 05:56 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2023, 05:59 AM by OutsiderFan.)
It would never happen, but the humane and right thing to do would have been to call the game as soon as UGA scored the first TD of the second half to make it 45-7. That was Stanford vs. Utah on the farm a couple years ago bad. TCU had too good of a season than to have to sit there and suffer humiliation longer than it needed. Women's Softball has a mercy rule for a reason. Why not football, especially given the physical risk the players are at while playing in football games? Maybe when one team is up by 43 points, the game ends?
Anyway, that aside, for those thinking "this proves how silly it is to have an expanded playoff if the best team is so much better than everyone else," not so fast. Assuming college football players want to win championships, expanding the number of teams who can get in the tournament will dilute the concentration of talent at the top to some degree and spread it wider across more teams. As of now, if your name is not Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and a few others, you simply aren't getting the best players. In theory the top players are choosing those schools in droves because only a few schools make the playoff and they tend to be the ones who make it. If that changes so there are 12 or 16 eligible playoff teams, then there is a lot more competition for talent because then mostly every team can make an argument they can make the playoff field.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
But there are so many issues facing College Football at the moment, playoff formats isn't even among the top 5 of them. NIL, Transfer Portal, recruiting, conference alignment and where it is all going, having the top division break away from the NCAA, paying players, salary caps for players and coaches, are all far bigger fish to fry.
Anyway, that aside, for those thinking "this proves how silly it is to have an expanded playoff if the best team is so much better than everyone else," not so fast. Assuming college football players want to win championships, expanding the number of teams who can get in the tournament will dilute the concentration of talent at the top to some degree and spread it wider across more teams. As of now, if your name is not Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and a few others, you simply aren't getting the best players. In theory the top players are choosing those schools in droves because only a few schools make the playoff and they tend to be the ones who make it. If that changes so there are 12 or 16 eligible playoff teams, then there is a lot more competition for talent because then mostly every team can make an argument they can make the playoff field.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
But there are so many issues facing College Football at the moment, playoff formats isn't even among the top 5 of them. NIL, Transfer Portal, recruiting, conference alignment and where it is all going, having the top division break away from the NCAA, paying players, salary caps for players and coaches, are all far bigger fish to fry.
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2023, 05:59 AM by OutsiderFan.)
It would never happen, but the humane and right thing to do would have been to call the game as soon as UGA scored the first TD of the second half to make it 45-7. That was Stanford vs. Utah on the farm a couple years ago bad. TCU had too good of a season than to have to sit there and suffer humiliation longer than it needed. Women's Softball has a mercy rule for a reason. Why not football, especially given the physical risk the players are at while playing in football games? Maybe when one team is up by 43 points, the game ends?
Anyway, that aside, for those thinking "this proves how silly it is to have an expanded playoff if the best team is so much better than everyone else," not so fast. Assuming college football players want to win championships, expanding the number of teams who can get in the tournament will dilute the concentration of talent at the top to some degree and spread it wider across more teams. As of now, if your name is not Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and a few others, you simply aren't getting the best players. In theory the top players are choosing those schools in droves because only a few schools make the playoff and they tend to be the ones who make it. If that changes so there are 12 or 16 eligible playoff teams, then there is a lot more competition for talent because then mostly every team can make an argument they can make the playoff field.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
But there are so many issues facing College Football at the moment, playoff formats isn't even among the top 5 of them. NIL, Transfer Portal, recruiting, conference alignment and where it is all going, having the top division break away from the NCAA, paying players, salary caps for players and coaches, are all far bigger fish to fry.
Anyway, that aside, for those thinking "this proves how silly it is to have an expanded playoff if the best team is so much better than everyone else," not so fast. Assuming college football players want to win championships, expanding the number of teams who can get in the tournament will dilute the concentration of talent at the top to some degree and spread it wider across more teams. As of now, if your name is not Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and a few others, you simply aren't getting the best players. In theory the top players are choosing those schools in droves because only a few schools make the playoff and they tend to be the ones who make it. If that changes so there are 12 or 16 eligible playoff teams, then there is a lot more competition for talent because then mostly every team can make an argument they can make the playoff field.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
But there are so many issues facing College Football at the moment, playoff formats isn't even among the top 5 of them. NIL, Transfer Portal, recruiting, conference alignment and where it is all going, having the top division break away from the NCAA, paying players, salary caps for players and coaches, are all far bigger fish to fry.
01-10-2023, 08:45 AM
Didn't tOSU come one missed FG from beating GA?
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
at least is was not as bad as the worst NFL championship thumping of 73-0...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_C...nship_Game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_C...nship_Game
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
at least is was not as bad as the worst NFL championship thumping of 73-0...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_C...nship_Game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_C...nship_Game
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
01-10-2023, 10:25 AM
(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: .Agreed. This is why football needs to adopt the baseball model with minor leagues and an early draft. The longer the football farce goes on, the more I think that baseball has the only reasonable solution. There would still be a role for college football as there is for college baseball. An appropriate role.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players..
(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: .Agreed. This is why football needs to adopt the baseball model with minor leagues and an early draft. The longer the football farce goes on, the more I think that baseball has the only reasonable solution. There would still be a role for college football as there is for college baseball. An appropriate role.
It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players..
01-10-2023, 10:41 AM
(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
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(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
01-10-2023, 11:46 AM
(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
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Last night was on-field proof that not only do you have to recruit premier talent but you must develop that talent to achieve a championship level program. A&M has gotten the former part of the equation right but has failed miserably at the latter.
(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
Last night was on-field proof that not only do you have to recruit premier talent but you must develop that talent to achieve a championship level program. A&M has gotten the former part of the equation right but has failed miserably at the latter.
01-10-2023, 12:05 PM
Georgia's 2 time national champion QB was a walk-on. Their top WR yesterday McConkey was a 3 star. Their Safety Bullard who had 2 INTs and a fumble recovery was a 3 star.
But other than that, they have 15 players on their roster who were five-star recruits, including All-America defensive tackle Jalen Carter, and 53 four-stars. According to 247's high school rankings, Georgia had the 2nd most talented roster in the country this year, behind Alabama. TCU was 32nd. That talent difference was pretty stark last night.
But other than that, they have 15 players on their roster who were five-star recruits, including All-America defensive tackle Jalen Carter, and 53 four-stars. According to 247's high school rankings, Georgia had the 2nd most talented roster in the country this year, behind Alabama. TCU was 32nd. That talent difference was pretty stark last night.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Georgia's 2 time national champion QB was a walk-on. Their top WR yesterday McConkey was a 3 star. Their Safety Bullard who had 2 INTs and a fumble recovery was a 3 star.
But other than that, they have 15 players on their roster who were five-star recruits, including All-America defensive tackle Jalen Carter, and 53 four-stars. According to 247's high school rankings, Georgia had the 2nd most talented roster in the country this year, behind Alabama. TCU was 32nd. That talent difference was pretty stark last night.
But other than that, they have 15 players on their roster who were five-star recruits, including All-America defensive tackle Jalen Carter, and 53 four-stars. According to 247's high school rankings, Georgia had the 2nd most talented roster in the country this year, behind Alabama. TCU was 32nd. That talent difference was pretty stark last night.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
This just in, a bunch of 5* freshmen are...freshmen.
In fact, 13 of their starting 22 are (mostly very-high-rated) frosh or sophs. One of the youngest starting lineups in the country in a veteran-dominated sport.
Let's revisit in 2 years.
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2023, 12:42 PM by SamuelMcF.)
(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
This just in, a bunch of 5* freshmen are...freshmen.
In fact, 13 of their starting 22 are (mostly very-high-rated) frosh or sophs. One of the youngest starting lineups in the country in a veteran-dominated sport.
Let's revisit in 2 years.
01-10-2023, 03:08 PM
Their 2021 class was ranked #9, their 2020 class was ranked #6, and their 2019 class was ranked #5. Four straight top-10 classes and the best they could muster is 2 conference wins?
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Their 2021 class was ranked #9, their 2020 class was ranked #6, and their 2019 class was ranked #5. Four straight top-10 classes and the best they could muster is 2 conference wins?
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01-10-2023, 03:41 PM
Not a surprise. In college football you need top talent and great coaching for high level success. One can help make up for the other, but to be great you need both. Sadly Georgia and Bama have both, and I fear USC is trending in that direction.
(01-10-2023, 12:39 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
This just in, a bunch of 5* freshmen are...freshmen.
In fact, 13 of their starting 22 are (mostly very-high-rated) frosh or sophs. One of the youngest starting lineups in the country in a veteran-dominated sport.
Let's revisit in 2 years.
I think the big question is how many of the 2022 recruits will last another two years. Six of them have already entered the portal.
https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football...al-tracker
(01-10-2023, 12:39 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(01-10-2023, 10:41 AM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-10-2023, 05:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It's not healthy for the sport when there are 5-6 teams landing 50% of the best players. The SEC can think they can break away from the rest of the NCAA and have its own championship, but this isn't the UK and the Premier League. College Football is interesting because there are teams competing from all over a much larger country. If the SEC were to do its own thing, top level College Football will become a regional sport. The SEC knows this, which is why they want the expanded playoff and for more programs outside the SEC to have a chance.
Texas A&M had the top recruiting class last year. They went 5-7 and were last in the SEC West at 2-6.
BC
This just in, a bunch of 5* freshmen are...freshmen.
In fact, 13 of their starting 22 are (mostly very-high-rated) frosh or sophs. One of the youngest starting lineups in the country in a veteran-dominated sport.
Let's revisit in 2 years.
I think the big question is how many of the 2022 recruits will last another two years. Six of them have already entered the portal.
https://www.si.com/college/tamu/football...al-tracker
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