Who's our last player that made an all-American list as a freshman? Casey?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...a-1st-team
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...a-1st-team
Okorie AP Honorable Mention All American
Who's our last player that made an all-American list as a freshman? Casey?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...a-1st-team
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...a-1st-team
03-17-2026, 11:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2026, 11:13 AM by BostonCard.)
Do we really think that Caleb Wilson (second team) had a better season than Okore?
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By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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(This post was last modified: 03-17-2026, 11:13 AM by BostonCard.)
Do we really think that Caleb Wilson (second team) had a better season than Okore?
BC
By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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That's awesome for Okorie.
Just in case anyone was curious, the last Stanford player to make the AP 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team was Brooke Lopez (3rd team in 08). Last 1st teamer was Childress in <year redacted because it's still too painful>.
I couldn't find historical lists of honorable mentions.
...I did find a couple of honorable mentions: Maxime last year and Randle in 2015. https://gostanford.com/news/2025/03/18/r...le-mention
Just in case anyone was curious, the last Stanford player to make the AP 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team was Brooke Lopez (3rd team in 08). Last 1st teamer was Childress in <year redacted because it's still too painful>.
I couldn't find historical lists of honorable mentions.
...I did find a couple of honorable mentions: Maxime last year and Randle in 2015. https://gostanford.com/news/2025/03/18/r...le-mention
That's awesome for Okorie.
Just in case anyone was curious, the last Stanford player to make the AP 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team was Brooke Lopez (3rd team in 08). Last 1st teamer was Childress in <year redacted because it's still too painful>.
I couldn't find historical lists of honorable mentions.
...I did find a couple of honorable mentions: Maxime last year and Randle in 2015. https://gostanford.com/news/2025/03/18/r...le-mention
Just in case anyone was curious, the last Stanford player to make the AP 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team was Brooke Lopez (3rd team in 08). Last 1st teamer was Childress in <year redacted because it's still too painful>.
I couldn't find historical lists of honorable mentions.
...I did find a couple of honorable mentions: Maxime last year and Randle in 2015. https://gostanford.com/news/2025/03/18/r...le-mention
(03-17-2026, 11:08 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Do we really think that Caleb Wilson (second team) had a better season than Okore?
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By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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Torvik conveniently doesn't measure anything defensive, nor Win Shares, nor Player Efficiency Rating (PER).
Player Efficiency Rating: Wilson 31.4 (#3 in the country), Okorie 26.3
Total Win Shares per 40 minutes: Wilson .255 (#7 in the country), Okorie .204
Total Box +/-: Wilson 14.1 (#5 in the country), Okorie 10.5
Offensive Box +/-: Wilson 8.8 (#9 in the country), Okorie 8.4
Defensive Box +/-: Wilson 5.3, Okorie 2.1
(03-17-2026, 11:08 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Do we really think that Caleb Wilson (second team) had a better season than Okore?
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By BART Torvik’s stat, Okorie should have been a second team all-American; he had the 7th highest Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game (at that Usage).
https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?li...d=20260501
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Torvik conveniently doesn't measure anything defensive, nor Win Shares, nor Player Efficiency Rating (PER).
Player Efficiency Rating: Wilson 31.4 (#3 in the country), Okorie 26.3
Total Win Shares per 40 minutes: Wilson .255 (#7 in the country), Okorie .204
Total Box +/-: Wilson 14.1 (#5 in the country), Okorie 10.5
Offensive Box +/-: Wilson 8.8 (#9 in the country), Okorie 8.4
Defensive Box +/-: Wilson 5.3, Okorie 2.1
03-18-2026, 09:28 AM
Fair point. FWIW, Torvik does measure defensive PRPG, it’s just a hidden column. Among elite players, Okorie is a bit lower, and is about a point lower than Wilson. That almost, but not quite, closes the gap in offensive PRPG, if you were to add the two.
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Fair point. FWIW, Torvik does measure defensive PRPG, it’s just a hidden column. Among elite players, Okorie is a bit lower, and is about a point lower than Wilson. That almost, but not quite, closes the gap in offensive PRPG, if you were to add the two.
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(03-18-2026, 09:28 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Fair point. FWIW, Torvik does measure defensive PRPG, it’s just a hidden column. Among elite players, Okorie is a bit lower, and is about a point lower than Wilson. That almost, but not quite, closes the gap in offensive PRPG, if you were to add the two.
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Also, let's face it, college All-Americana teams are essentially the best players selected from only the best teams. UNC was much better than Stanford this year. Frankly, it's amazing that any Stanford players the last 15 years have gotten any votes at all. Childress was first-team on a 1 seed. Brook was 3rd team on a 3 seed.
(03-18-2026, 09:28 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Fair point. FWIW, Torvik does measure defensive PRPG, it’s just a hidden column. Among elite players, Okorie is a bit lower, and is about a point lower than Wilson. That almost, but not quite, closes the gap in offensive PRPG, if you were to add the two.
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Also, let's face it, college All-Americana teams are essentially the best players selected from only the best teams. UNC was much better than Stanford this year. Frankly, it's amazing that any Stanford players the last 15 years have gotten any votes at all. Childress was first-team on a 1 seed. Brook was 3rd team on a 3 seed.
03-18-2026, 10:05 AM
I have very little knowledge regarding Caleb Wilson’s defensive prowess, and I by no means claim to be an expert on defensive play, but, having watched virtually all of Okorie’s games this season, both live and on TV, it seemed clear to me that his defense could use a little work to move him up to elite/NBA status. Compared to his off-the-charts offensive skills, and notwithstanding his quick hands and ability to steal the ball in the high court, there were more than a couple of occasions when he got beat down low for a relatively easy drive by his man down low. I have every confidence he can hone those skills as well - and I hope he does so in a Cardinal uniform - but I guess I’m not surprised to see that his defensive stats [even if I have no clue what all those descriptions mean] aren’t at the same level as his offense.
I have very little knowledge regarding Caleb Wilson’s defensive prowess, and I by no means claim to be an expert on defensive play, but, having watched virtually all of Okorie’s games this season, both live and on TV, it seemed clear to me that his defense could use a little work to move him up to elite/NBA status. Compared to his off-the-charts offensive skills, and notwithstanding his quick hands and ability to steal the ball in the high court, there were more than a couple of occasions when he got beat down low for a relatively easy drive by his man down low. I have every confidence he can hone those skills as well - and I hope he does so in a Cardinal uniform - but I guess I’m not surprised to see that his defensive stats [even if I have no clue what all those descriptions mean] aren’t at the same level as his offense.
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