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RE: Stanford 49 Ole Miss 54 season ends - stopandpop - 03-21-2023

USA Today's sports section (Tuesday) has an interesting comment about Brink's great effort against Mississippi and our coaching staff.  I had trouble posting the link, but here is the text.

Heading:  "Post players establish their dominance; Hokies roll"

Text:  "No 1 seed Stanford's 54-49 loss to Ole Miss would have been far more lopsided if not for Cameron Brink's spectacular effort.  Brink had 13 rebounds and seven blocks - three on just one play! - and she almost single-handedly got Stanford back into a game it trailed by 13 midway through the third quarter.  But Brink didn't get enough help offensively or, quite frankly, from Stanford's coaching staff."

I thought that last sentence was quite interesting.

The front page photo did not correctly name our players.  There is a photo of Mississippi guard Marquesha Davis driving to the basket against Haley and Betts and the photo caption reads:  ".....Davis drives to the basket against Stanford guard Indya Nivar during the second half Sunday night."


RE: Stanford 49 Ole Miss 54 season ends - 81alum - 03-21-2023

(03-21-2023, 07:10 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  Text:  "No 1 seed Stanford's 54-49 loss to Ole Miss would have been far more lopsided if not for Cameron Brink's spectacular effort.  Brink had 13 rebounds and seven blocks - three on just one play! - and she almost single-handedly got Stanford back into a game it trailed by 13 midway through the third quarter.  But Brink didn't get enough help offensively or, quite frankly, from Stanford's coaching staff."

I thought that last sentence was quite interesting.
I think that is fair.  Tara said about as much in the postgame presser.


RE: Stanford 49 Ole Miss 54 season ends - MV72018 - 03-21-2023

(03-21-2023, 07:36 PM)81alum Wrote:  
(03-21-2023, 07:10 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  Text:  "No 1 seed Stanford's 54-49 loss to Ole Miss would have been far more lopsided if not for Cameron Brink's spectacular effort.  Brink had 13 rebounds and seven blocks - three on just one play! - and she almost single-handedly got Stanford back into a game it trailed by 13 midway through the third quarter.  But Brink didn't get enough help offensively or, quite frankly, from Stanford's coaching staff."

I thought that last sentence was quite interesting.
I think that is fair.  Tara said about as much in the postgame presser.
 

I'm not at all sure about that. She did say that it was 'on her' that Cam and Haley had tried to overcome the deficit by themselves. She also blamed the inexperience of the frosh, the tight schedule, and the late turnovers by Jump and Haley. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear her accept much of the blame for herself or for the associate coaches. I also heard nada about bad offensive strategy or not recruiting dual-threat wings. Based on what I've seen over the years, I don't think much of Tara's ability to make shrewd in-game adjustments.


RE: Hieronymus - Card10Fan - 03-22-2023

(03-20-2023, 04:07 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:  Agree that changes were made but none of it worked. I wanted to see bigger and instead we got smaller with more time for young guards that didn’t grow into the roles.

1. Clearly Tara wanted the team to run, and on the rare occasion they did/could they looked good. But those moments were really rare against good teams.
2. Guard rebounding continued to be the weirdest problem ever. If i exclude Davis for them, I still get a 14 - 6 deficit for Stanford. You can see the issues, but they never got fixed. Game decider in a game like this.
3. The young guards never developed and Kiki faded away as the year went on.
4. In tough games overall the whole bench would disappear as again was the case in this game.
5. Some tough end game execution all year, which revisited us in spades in this one. Last 3 plays - 3 turnovers and Cam never touches the ball. Unfortunately Jones was a major, major part of that.

The one big plus for me is Cam’s growth. Betts was also a plus. We will see next year if the other players improve. I worry though that I see too many athletic limitations in some of the players for them to really step up. We will see. And I don’t see anybody on the roster now becoming an off the dribble threat in a year.

Good points. Tara wanted to use 11 players so we could run more. Where was our transition offense and quick pace of place the last two months? nonexistent. we had too many issues across the board. #5 was the most frustrating. end of game management and offense schemes late in games. timeouts directly leading to turnovers. we were just as bad there against ole miss as we were against SC five months ago. No changes.When I see Coach Paye in the timeout with the clipboard late....pretty much always led to a turnover out of the timeout.


RE: Hieronymus - 81alum - 03-22-2023

(03-22-2023, 07:45 AM)Card10Fan Wrote:  Good points. Tara wanted to use 11 players so we could run more. Where was our transition offense and quick pace of place the last two months? nonexistent. we had too many issues across the board. #5 was the most frustrating. end of game management and offense schemes late in games. timeouts directly leading to turnovers. we were just as bad there against ole miss as we were against SC five months ago. No changes.When I see Coach Paye in the timeout with the clipboard late....pretty much always led to a turnover out of the timeout.
Paye has a brilliant mind in general--not too many basketball coaches with Stanford law degrees and MBAs are floating around--but as far as basketball is concerned I know she is superb with defense.  I have never heard very much about her offensive skills as a coach, one way or the other.  I wonder if anyone else on the board has some inside knowledge about how the Stanford WBB offenses have been planned and put together over the years, and how the responsibilities are shared.