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RE: 2022 Giants thread - Mick - 04-23-2022
Nice to see Slater hit a home run. And really nice to see the bats awaken (12 hits) with Crawford getting two doubles. And Junis...very nice. Would be nice to see him break out.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 04-23-2022
re: unwritten rules, Krukow nails it in his comments to Bruce Jenkins….
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Recovering-from-COVID-Giants-broadcaster-Mike-17120385.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_sportinggreen&sid=5452d8d13b35d010308e94ff
Keep the heat on, Gabe!
lex24 - lex24 - 04-23-2022
(04-23-2022, 03:34 PM)Giants Wrote: re: unwritten rules, Krukow nails it in his comments to Bruce Jenkins….
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Recovering-from-COVID-Giants-broadcaster-Mike-17120385.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_sportinggreen&sid=5452d8d13b35d010308e94ff
Keep the heat on, Gabe!
They were playing behind Estrada with 2 outs in 9th, Giants up 7-1. That’s the baseball equivalent of clearing the bench. And you are in no way “extending their pitching staff” at that point. (Although the article, I think was written prior to that play.)
No bigger Krukow fan than I. But he’d be signing a different tune if it was the Dodgers and Dave Roberts.
6-3. Good road trip (except for the injuries). No matter what happens in last 2.
RE: lex24 - Giants - 04-23-2022
(04-23-2022, 03:58 PM)lex24 Wrote:(04-23-2022, 03:34 PM)Giants Wrote: re: unwritten rules, Krukow nails it in his comments to Bruce Jenkins….
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Recovering-from-COVID-Giants-broadcaster-Mike-17120385.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_sportinggreen&sid=5452d8d13b35d010308e94ff
Keep the heat on, Gabe!
They were playing behind Estrada with 2 outs in 9th, Giants up 7-1. That’s the baseball equivalent of clearing the bench. And you are in no way “extending their pitching staff” at that point. (Although the article, I think was written prior to that play.)
No bigger Krukow fan than I. But he’d be signing a different tune if it was the Dodgers and Dave Roberts.
6-3. Good road trip (except for the injuries). No matter what happens in last 2.
As I posted several days ago, I expected 7-4/8-3 on the trip. They still have a ways to go…..
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 04-23-2022
Slater/Duggar was going to be a tough choice when the rosters will be reverting to 26.
lex24 - lex24 - 04-24-2022
(04-23-2022, 04:54 PM)Phogge Wrote: Slater/Duggar was going to be a tough choice when the rosters will be reverting to 26.
Duggar has option left. Plus they need RH bat.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 04-24-2022
Yaz positive for Covid. Staying in Wash. Will miss a few.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Goose - 04-24-2022
(04-24-2022, 09:29 AM)lex24 Wrote: Yaz positive for Covid. Staying in Wash. Will miss a few.Ouch. Hopefully he has a "light" case, and hopefully it didn't spread too much in the clubhouse.
RE: lex24 - Giants - 04-24-2022
(04-23-2022, 03:58 PM)lex24 Wrote:(04-23-2022, 03:34 PM)Giants Wrote: re: unwritten rules, Krukow nails it in his comments to Bruce Jenkins….
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Recovering-from-COVID-Giants-broadcaster-Mike-17120385.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_sportinggreen&sid=5452d8d13b35d010308e94ff
Keep the heat on, Gabe!
They were playing behind Estrada with 2 outs in 9th, Giants up 7-1. That’s the baseball equivalent of clearing the bench. And you are in no way “extending their pitching staff” at that point. (Although the article, I think was written prior to that play.)
No bigger Krukow fan than I. But he’d be signing a different tune if it was the Dodgers and Dave Roberts.
6-3. Good road trip (except for the injuries). No matter what happens in last 2.
Hey Lex….
The hype train is leaving the platform heading towards Station 108. Are you getting on board or still going to Station 90?
:) :) :)
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 04-24-2022
LOL Giants. Yaz drops out and Joc takes over the leadoff slot. Fireworks!
F*** the Mets Lex. DeGrom is glass.
Emeralds report:
Toribio, Matos, Bishop, Pomares, Bailey all struggling. Luciano, Schmidt, Ghordy Sanchez and Armani Smith hitting rockets.
After nine innings and no runs with 16 K's 20 year old lefty Kyle Harrison touched for 4 earned in two innings with 5 strikeouts. Seth Corry 1ER, 3BB, 1K in 2.2. Prelander Berroa dealing.
RE: lex24 - lex24 - 04-24-2022
(04-24-2022, 02:28 PM)Giants Wrote:(04-23-2022, 03:58 PM)lex24 Wrote:(04-23-2022, 03:34 PM)Giants Wrote: re: unwritten rules, Krukow nails it in his comments to Bruce Jenkins….
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Recovering-from-COVID-Giants-broadcaster-Mike-17120385.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_sportinggreen&sid=5452d8d13b35d010308e94ff
Keep the heat on, Gabe!
They were playing behind Estrada with 2 outs in 9th, Giants up 7-1. That’s the baseball equivalent of clearing the bench. And you are in no way “extending their pitching staff” at that point. (Although the article, I think was written prior to that play.)
No bigger Krukow fan than I. But he’d be signing a different tune if it was the Dodgers and Dave Roberts.
6-3. Good road trip (except for the injuries). No matter what happens in last 2.
Hey Lex….
The hype train is leaving the platform heading towards Station 108. Are you getting on board or still going to Station 90?
:) :) :)
It’s early. Nice start, though. Are Rockies going to win 100? :).
Starting pitching health still the key.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - BostonCard - 04-24-2022
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-san-francisco-giants-face-their-biggest-opponent-regression/
Interesting analysis about the likelihood of regression (high) and why it might be lower than historical precedent (in a word, analytics).
BC
RE: 2022 Giants thread - triangle2 - 04-24-2022
Check out the clip of Kyle Schwarber getting thrown out after yet another crappy strike call from...you guessed it. Angel Hernandez.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/angel-hernandez-missed-calls-video-terrible-worst-umpire-mlb-01g1eze5hjzg
RE: 2022 Giants thread - OutsiderFan - 04-25-2022
(04-24-2022, 10:24 PM)triangle2 Wrote: Check out the clip of Kyle Schwarber getting thrown out after yet another crappy strike call from...you guessed it. Angel Hernandez.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/angel-hernandez-missed-calls-video-terrible-worst-umpire-mlb-01g1eze5hjzg
That game was a case study for why the electronic strike zone is coming. Some of the worst ball/strike calls I've ever seen in my life. Just atrocious and embarrassing for any professional sport.
Schwarber took a called third strike in 9th that was clearly outside the zone, and absolutely was justified doing what he did. It's amazing other players didn't erupt earlier in the game.
The Brewers used both their best relievers two games in a row, so might not have them available for Giants tonight.
On the broadcast David Cone said this is the week that would be equivalent to first start of season after a normal Spring Training, so now starting Pitchers should be able to go 100+ pitches. Hoping Rodon goes at least 7 tonight.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 04-25-2022
(04-25-2022, 07:55 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(04-24-2022, 10:24 PM)triangle2 Wrote: Check out the clip of Kyle Schwarber getting thrown out after yet another crappy strike call from...you guessed it. Angel Hernandez.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/angel-hernandez-missed-calls-video-terrible-worst-umpire-mlb-01g1eze5hjzg
That game was a case study for why the electronic strike zone is coming. Some of the worst ball/strike calls I've ever seen in my life. Just atrocious and embarrassing for any professional sport.
Schwarber took a called third strike in 9th that was clearly outside the zone, and absolutely was justified doing what he did. It's amazing other players didn't erupt earlier in the game.
The Brewers used both their best relievers two games in a row, so might not have them available for Giants tonight.
On the broadcast David Cone said this is the week that would be equivalent to first start of season after a normal Spring Training, so now starting Pitchers should be able to go 100+ pitches. Hoping Rodon goes at least 7 tonight.
Rodon goes tomorrow. Extra day. As for robot umps, be careful what you ask for. If they program a Rule Book strike zone, the result will make ‘68 look like a great year for hitters.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 04-25-2022
(04-25-2022, 07:55 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(04-24-2022, 10:24 PM)triangle2 Wrote: Check out the clip of Kyle Schwarber getting thrown out after yet another crappy strike call from...you guessed it. Angel Hernandez.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/angel-hernandez-missed-calls-video-terrible-worst-umpire-mlb-01g1eze5hjzg
That game was a case study for why the electronic strike zone is coming. Some of the worst ball/strike calls I've ever seen in my life. Just atrocious and embarrassing for any professional sport.
Schwarber took a called third strike in 9th that was clearly outside the zone, and absolutely was justified doing what he did. It's amazing other players didn't erupt earlier in the game.
The Brewers used both their best relievers two games in a row, so might not have them available for Giants tonight.
On the broadcast David Cone said this is the week that would be equivalent to first start of season after a normal Spring Training, so now starting Pitchers should be able to go 100+ pitches. Hoping Rodon goes at least 7 tonight.
Don’t look for Giants starters to throw 100+ pitches. Kapler/Bailey have the best bullpen in the game and use it to great advantage. As Lex has noted, the starters must stay healthy (limiting each of their outings is the prime ingredient to the recipe of good health) for SF to have a chance this year.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Mick - 04-25-2022
(04-25-2022, 07:55 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: That game was a case study for why the electronic strike zone is coming. Some of the worst ball/strike calls I've ever seen in my life. Just atrocious and embarrassing for any professional sport.
It can't come fast enough for me. Here's a summary of the 5/1/21 game last year, which not only includes three straight strikes thrown by former Giant Mark Melancon against Wilmer Flores, but it includes a summary analysis at to how home plate umpire Adam Hamari favored home team San Diego in the overall strike zone. Incidentally, I seem to recall that the "strikes" thrown to Flores all measured between 2.5" and 3.5" outside the strike zone, using radar.
Mark Melancon strikes out Wilmer Flores looking, on BAD umpire strike zone - YouTube
Hamari's basically middle of the pack, in terms of accuracy:
Umpire Scorecards | Umpires (umpscorecards.com)
And here's a graph in which the Giants are the fifth "least-favored" team in terms of runs granted by ump calls. A's have the second most, BTW.
Deadspin’s deep dive into umpire stats: accuracy and consistency are key
I long for the days of yesteryear. Joe Ginsberg was catching, Bill Summers was umpiring and Ted Williams comes up and walks on four straight pitches. Ginsberg says, "Bill, don't you think that last pitch was a strike?" And Summers replied "Mr. Ginsberg, Mr. Williams will let you know when it is a strike."
http://criticalflame.org/the-greatest-facing-ted-williams/
BTW, if the infield fly rule had been in effect in 1941, Ted Williams would have hit .416.
Giants now 11-5, 10% of the season is done. On track to win 111 games.
Giants are #13 in OPS in MLB, #5 in HRs, #9 in team strikeouts, #15 in Walks, #9 in SBs, and #4 in runs scored (#3 on a per game basis). For pitching, Giants are #2 in ERA (Dodgers are #1) and #1 in reliever ERA at 1.78. Giants pitchers are #7 in WHIP, #5 in fewest walks, and #10 in most strikeouts. Also #1 in fewest HRs given up.
And just for fun...Connor Joe is 10th in MLB in OPS...and Seiya Suzuki, who the Giants didn't get, is #1 in MLB in OPS.
RE: lex24 - Mick - 04-25-2022
(04-24-2022, 07:09 AM)lex24 Wrote:(04-23-2022, 04:54 PM)Phogge Wrote: Slater/Duggar was going to be a tough choice when the rosters will be reverting to 26.
Duggar has option left. Plus they need RH bat.
Slater's starting to accelerate. He started 1 for 13, his slash line in the last week is .364/.417/.636/1.053. Crushing it. tOPS+ of 211.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - OutsiderFan - 04-25-2022
(04-25-2022, 09:16 AM)lex24 Wrote:(04-25-2022, 07:55 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(04-24-2022, 10:24 PM)triangle2 Wrote: Check out the clip of Kyle Schwarber getting thrown out after yet another crappy strike call from...you guessed it. Angel Hernandez.
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/angel-hernandez-missed-calls-video-terrible-worst-umpire-mlb-01g1eze5hjzg
That game was a case study for why the electronic strike zone is coming. Some of the worst ball/strike calls I've ever seen in my life. Just atrocious and embarrassing for any professional sport.
Schwarber took a called third strike in 9th that was clearly outside the zone, and absolutely was justified doing what he did. It's amazing other players didn't erupt earlier in the game.
The Brewers used both their best relievers two games in a row, so might not have them available for Giants tonight.
On the broadcast David Cone said this is the week that would be equivalent to first start of season after a normal Spring Training, so now starting Pitchers should be able to go 100+ pitches. Hoping Rodon goes at least 7 tonight.
Rodon goes tomorrow. Extra day. As for robot umps, be careful what you ask for. If they program a Rule Book strike zone, the result will make ‘68 look like a great year for hitters.
It's pretty easy to adjust the strike zone to the height of the player. The width will never change. And the fact is most of the calls that are missed are the horizontal plane, not the vertical one. Doesn't mean the umps don't make incorrect calls up or down, but I see way, way more pitches missed inside or outside.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 04-25-2022
Time to put the Suzuki matter to rest. Recently, Andrew Baggerly wrote an article about the topic in The Athletic. In essence, Suzuki had some concerns about signing with SF. There were related to non-financial personal issues. My reading of the article implied that SF was definitely in the ballpark with the numbers and was very interested in signing him. Unfortunately for the Giants, not everyone wants to live and work in SF.
Best wishes to Seiya. I hope he and his family enjoy their American experience....