Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results)

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RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - Treebound - 08-14-2024

(08-14-2024, 08:36 AM)82lsju Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 08:28 AM)Treebound Wrote:
(08-13-2024, 07:48 PM)Farm93 Wrote:
(08-12-2024, 08:38 AM)Treebound Wrote: Somebody needs to update the Wikipedia medal count. Note the asterisks on Stanford's medal count and that is without Heiden's and Gu's medals from the Winter Olympics in the current count. Include those and we have clearly passed usc in total medals and gold medals. What a fantastic result for Stanford Olympians in Paris! It might be time for a "bootleg" t-shirt to come out to commemorate such a great performance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_universities_with_Olympic_medalist_students_and_alumni

Even without Gu's medals Stanford is now ahead in gold, because USC claims only 7 this cycle. And tied in overall because USC claimed 15 which is conveniently 24 less than 39.

USC should not claim most overall gold at this point.
And really USC should not even claim most overall medals as Gu had plans to attend Stanford when she won her Beijing medals.
I believe Gu attended frosh orientation in 2022, but I am not sure if she is still attending Stanford.

Farm, those numbers are on wikipedia, and as noted, do not currently include either Heiden or Gu in the count. I agree with your counts, but unfortunately the Stanford AD takes an even more conservative approach. I'm not sure why? U$c and most other schools take the opposite tact and lay claim to all potential athlete ties. The wikipedia page is fairly comprehensive (save for Heiden and Gu).

Stanford AD has finally started to understand the power of the Olympics to create more fans (and likely more donations), so I'm hopeful that they will start to put more focus on Stanford as the Olympic student athlete training ground. This year's microsite was a step in the right direction, but as others pointed out, $c has done a better job of this. Love the WSJ article - we should make PR hay while we can!

someone (maybe Bobk) once wrote here that the AD didn't previously count Heiden or Debi Thomas as their sports were not sports that the AD supports (same rationale would apply for Gu).

Thanks Eric, that was me that provided the update that was given by one of the AD staff members. I do think that the AD could note that Heiden (BS and MD), Thomas (BS), Gu (current student) and potentially other alums participated in the Winter Olympics, as other schools do. I think the engagement by both alums and the AD has been significant with the Paris games, so I'm hoping we see a change in how the AD presents this information going forward.

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - Mick - 08-14-2024

(08-14-2024, 11:52 AM)Treebound Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 08:36 AM)82lsju Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 08:28 AM)Treebound Wrote:
(08-13-2024, 07:48 PM)Farm93 Wrote:
(08-12-2024, 08:38 AM)Treebound Wrote: Somebody needs to update the Wikipedia medal count. Note the asterisks on Stanford's medal count and that is without Heiden's and Gu's medals from the Winter Olympics in the current count. Include those and we have clearly passed usc in total medals and gold medals. What a fantastic result for Stanford Olympians in Paris! It might be time for a "bootleg" t-shirt to come out to commemorate such a great performance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_universities_with_Olympic_medalist_students_and_alumni

Even without Gu's medals Stanford is now ahead in gold, because USC claims only 7 this cycle. And tied in overall because USC claimed 15 which is conveniently 24 less than 39.

USC should not claim most overall gold at this point.
And really USC should not even claim most overall medals as Gu had plans to attend Stanford when she won her Beijing medals.
I believe Gu attended frosh orientation in 2022, but I am not sure if she is still attending Stanford.

Farm, those numbers are on wikipedia, and as noted, do not currently include either Heiden or Gu in the count. I agree with your counts, but unfortunately the Stanford AD takes an even more conservative approach. I'm not sure why? U$c and most other schools take the opposite tact and lay claim to all potential athlete ties. The wikipedia page is fairly comprehensive (save for Heiden and Gu).

Stanford AD has finally started to understand the power of the Olympics to create more fans (and likely more donations), so I'm hopeful that they will start to put more focus on Stanford as the Olympic student athlete training ground. This year's microsite was a step in the right direction, but as others pointed out, $c has done a better job of this. Love the WSJ article - we should make PR hay while we can!

someone (maybe Bobk) once wrote here that the AD didn't previously count Heiden or Debi Thomas as their sports were not sports that the AD supports (same rationale would apply for Gu).

Thanks Eric, that was me that provided the update that was given by one of the AD staff members. I do think that the AD could note that Heiden (BS and MD), Thomas (BS), Gu (current student) and potentially other alums participated in the Winter Olympics, as other schools do. I think the engagement by both alums and the AD has been significant with the Paris games, so I'm hoping we see a change in how the AD presents this information going forward.

Yes, it seems odd to restrict alumni representation to those that received direct training in their field. Herbert Hoover was a geology major, not poli sci...should he not be listed as an alumnus because President does not naturally flow from a Geology degree?

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - dabigv13 - 08-14-2024

Good reasoning for how we can finally ditch Hoover's association with Stanford!

Not counting Gu and not counting Hoover sounds like a square deal to me.

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - SkiBum80 - 08-14-2024

(08-14-2024, 12:49 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Good reasoning for how we can finally ditch Hoover's association with Stanford!

Disagree. And far off topic.

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - OCcardinal - 08-14-2024

(08-14-2024, 08:03 AM)Treebound Wrote: I agree on your ACC point, CC. Let them tout this as the ACC has not been in this position before.

I wouldn't mind the Pac12 putting out a final count on it's website touting the Pac12's dominance in medal count in Paris. It would be a nice way to go out on top!

I think it makes sense for the ACC to celebrate the accomplishments of Stanford's athletes (rather than the Pac12). These medal counts are really about celebrating the overall excellence of the athletic programs of its current member institutions. I don't think any conference would (or could) claim to have directly made Valarie Allman a good discuss thrower.

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - Treebound - 08-14-2024

(08-14-2024, 04:24 PM)OCcardinal Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 08:03 AM)Treebound Wrote: I agree on your ACC point, CC. Let them tout this as the ACC has not been in this position before.

I wouldn't mind the Pac12 putting out a final count on it's website touting the Pac12's dominance in medal count in Paris. It would be a nice way to go out on top!

I think it makes sense for the ACC to celebrate the accomplishments of Stanford's athletes (rather than the Pac12). These medal counts are really about celebrating the overall excellence of the athletic programs of its current member institutions. I don't think any conference would (or could) claim to have directly made Valarie Allman a good discuss thrower.

I believe the official end date for the Pac12 occurred half way through the Paris Olympics. My thought was that both the Pac12 and the ACC could share their medal count numbers. There would be no harm from my perspective and it would be a nice final statement on the strength of the former Pac12 in terms of impact on the Olympics.

Mudhead - Mudhead - 08-15-2024

(08-14-2024, 05:42 PM)Treebound Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 04:24 PM)OCcardinal Wrote:
(08-14-2024, 08:03 AM)Treebound Wrote: I agree on your ACC point, CC. Let them tout this as the ACC has not been in this position before.

I wouldn't mind the Pac12 putting out a final count on it's website touting the Pac12's dominance in medal count in Paris. It would be a nice way to go out on top!

I think it makes sense for the ACC to celebrate the accomplishments of Stanford's athletes (rather than the Pac12). These medal counts are really about celebrating the overall excellence of the athletic programs of its current member institutions. I don't think any conference would (or could) claim to have directly made Valarie Allman a good discuss thrower.

I believe the official end date for the Pac12 occurred half way through the Paris Olympics. My thought was that both the Pac12 and the ACC could share their medal count numbers. There would be no harm from my perspective and it would be a nice final statement on the strength of the former Pac12 in terms of impact on the Olympics.

The PAC12 died the moment USC and UCLA left. Or maybe it died when the Presidents listened to Larry
Scott. Or when we failed to bring Texas and Oklahoma into the conference . I don’t like it but that is what happened. Stanford clung to the idea of a “different” PAC12 way too long and almost got left out with WSU and OSU. Whatever Stanford can do to enhance the ACC is in Stanfords best interest. One more effort to build a memory of a dead conference does no one any good.

Don’t get me wrong; i loved the PAC 8,10,and 12 . But it failed and Stanford must focus on its future . Right now , that’s the ACC. In five years? No one knows.

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - BobK - 08-15-2024

Larry Scott was long gone. The Pac died when the Pac presidents said $30M a team not enough

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - Canalejas - 08-16-2024

Some more praise for Girma.

https://www.goal.com/en-us/indivisa/news/a-world-class-talent-uswnt-defender-naomi-girma-has-got-the-world-s-attention-after-her-performance-at-the-2024-paris-olympics/bltdcf0c61a6b8ad191

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - Nobadeer - 08-16-2024

I was on campus today and noticed that Pac12 Plaza is no more. The flags of the Pac12 schools have been replaced by a series of red and white LSJU flags.

The Pac 8/10/12 was a legendary and fun conference, in the words of the immortal Bill Walton, the Conference of Champions - as proven again by the medal haul at the Paris Olympics!

RE: Stanford at the 2024 Paris Olympics (now with results) - 82lsju - 08-30-2024

Team Stanford at the Paris Paralympics.

Quote:Skyler Espinoza [US para-cycling] and Jeff Butler [US wheelchair rugby] representing Stanford in Paris

https://gostanford.com/news/2024/08/29/espinoza-butler-compete-at-paralympics