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RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - SamuelMcF - 12-02-2019

(12-01-2019, 11:55 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-01-2019, 11:39 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  I thought I saw that Nugent came in on offense when Rouse was injured. I didn't see whether he lined up at Rouse's tackle spot or if there was some shuffling.

Also pretty sure N. Williams was in on defense late in the game, not just ST.

Yeah, I can confirm that Nugent came in when Rouse got injured.

BC

Nugent actually came in earlier as a 6th OL in a heavy package, and when Rouse got hurt he came in at LG and Miller slid over to LT.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Langdude - 12-02-2019

(12-02-2019, 12:44 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-01-2019, 11:55 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-01-2019, 11:39 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  I thought I saw that Nugent came in on offense when Rouse was injured. I didn't see whether he lined up at Rouse's tackle spot or if there was some shuffling.

Also pretty sure N. Williams was in on defense late in the game, not just ST.

Yeah, I can confirm that Nugent came in when Rouse got injured.

BC

Nugent actually came in earlier as a 6th OL in a heavy package, and when Rouse got hurt he came in at LG and Miller slid over to LT.

Thanks. Corrected.

-m.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - BostonCard - 12-02-2019

(06-18-2019, 01:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Connolly's preview is pretty reasonable, though I'm a bit more pessimistic than he is.  I can't shake a feeling that Costello, without his oversized receivers outmuscling DB's for contested balls, seems poised to regress this year.  And if our running game was challenged last year, it will be in worse shape this year without a proven running back and a thin offensive line.  Last year, we were a 6.1 yards per play team; with our losses, I think we lose about 0.25 - 0.5 yards per play, which would put us in a position comparable to 2016, when we had 5.77 ypp (and in the bottom half of the Pac-12).

On defense, Connolly identifies our weaknesses.  The question marks at safety and linebacker are very large.  Malik Antoine is the only player with any meaningful experience.  Head has 3 career tackles.   Robinson is highly touted, but has 36 career tackles.  Beecher is a senior with 7 lifetime tackles; and the rest redshirted last year.  We are very strong at defensive line, and in solid shape at CB (anchored by Adebo), but without linebackers and safeties, we will be very vulnerable in the middle of the field.  It's hard to see us improve on the 5.7 yards per play than we did last year, unless we get unexpected contributions at positions that right now are big question marks.

This to me smells like a 6-6 team.  Obviously, if there are answers at the questions, there is a lot of potential to outperform, and a 10-win season is not out of the question.  On the other hand, we are a couple of injuries (no worse than last year) at key positions away from a truly miserable season where 4-8 or worse are within the realm of possibility.

BC

Well, now that the season is over, we can evaluate my predictions.  I called a drop of .25 to .5 YPP on offense compared to last year’s 6.13; survey says we got 5.59 ypp, a drop of 0.54 ypp.  That’s a bit worse than I predicted, but not by much.  Defensively, we allowed 6.3 ypp, which is 0.6 ypp worse than the 5.7 YPP that I thought we would be hard pressed to improve on.  I called a 6-6 team, but the bolder statement was spot on, wasn’t it.

BC

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Phogge - 12-02-2019

Good call BC. Now that poster with a crush on me can down vote me again. LOL.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Langdude - 12-02-2019

(12-02-2019, 01:12 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(06-18-2019, 01:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Connolly's preview is pretty reasonable, though I'm a bit more pessimistic than he is.  I can't shake a feeling that Costello, without his oversized receivers outmuscling DB's for contested balls, seems poised to regress this year.  And if our running game was challenged last year, it will be in worse shape this year without a proven running back and a thin offensive line.  Last year, we were a 6.1 yards per play team; with our losses, I think we lose about 0.25 - 0.5 yards per play, which would put us in a position comparable to 2016, when we had 5.77 ypp (and in the bottom half of the Pac-12).

On defense, Connolly identifies our weaknesses.  The question marks at safety and linebacker are very large.  Malik Antoine is the only player with any meaningful experience.  Head has 3 career tackles.   Robinson is highly touted, but has 36 career tackles.  Beecher is a senior with 7 lifetime tackles; and the rest redshirted last year.  We are very strong at defensive line, and in solid shape at CB (anchored by Adebo), but without linebackers and safeties, we will be very vulnerable in the middle of the field.  It's hard to see us improve on the 5.7 yards per play than we did last year, unless we get unexpected contributions at positions that right now are big question marks.

This to me smells like a 6-6 team.  Obviously, if there are answers at the questions, there is a lot of potential to outperform, and a 10-win season is not out of the question.  On the other hand, we are a couple of injuries (no worse than last year) at key positions away from a truly miserable season where 4-8 or worse are within the realm of possibility.

BC

Well, now that the season is over, we can evaluate my predictions.  I called a drop of .25 to .5 YPP on offense compared to last year’s 6.13; survey says we got 5.59 ypp, a drop of 0.54 ypp.  That’s a bit worse than I predicted, but not by much.  Defensively, we allowed 6.3 ypp, which is 0.6 ypp worse than the 5.7 YPP that I thought we would be hard pressed to improve on.  I called a 6-6 team, but the bolder statement was spot on, wasn’t it.

BC

That's a pretty impressive call, BC!

For myself, I think I was on target in my evaluation of safeties and ILB, which were not great. I think I overestimated how good CB would be; Adebo had multiple sub-par games, Eboh did not work out, and Kyu Blu was inconsistent (as might be expected from a true frosh). I predicted OLB would be fine, though not outstanding (which was true when healthy), and the same with D-line. I expected Booker would be better. Overall, the defense did maybe one standard deviation worse than I thought they would.

-m.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Papa John - 12-02-2019

Good call, unfortunately, by BC. I thought this team was, at worst, a 6-6 team, with 8-4 the most likely result. This season was an absolute gut punch. Good thing we're a basketball school.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - BostonCard - 12-02-2019

(12-02-2019, 10:36 AM)Langdude Wrote:  
(12-02-2019, 01:12 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(06-18-2019, 01:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Connolly's preview is pretty reasonable, though I'm a bit more pessimistic than he is.  I can't shake a feeling that Costello, without his oversized receivers outmuscling DB's for contested balls, seems poised to regress this year.  And if our running game was challenged last year, it will be in worse shape this year without a proven running back and a thin offensive line.  Last year, we were a 6.1 yards per play team; with our losses, I think we lose about 0.25 - 0.5 yards per play, which would put us in a position comparable to 2016, when we had 5.77 ypp (and in the bottom half of the Pac-12).

On defense, Connolly identifies our weaknesses.  The question marks at safety and linebacker are very large.  Malik Antoine is the only player with any meaningful experience.  Head has 3 career tackles.   Robinson is highly touted, but has 36 career tackles.  Beecher is a senior with 7 lifetime tackles; and the rest redshirted last year.  We are very strong at defensive line, and in solid shape at CB (anchored by Adebo), but without linebackers and safeties, we will be very vulnerable in the middle of the field.  It's hard to see us improve on the 5.7 yards per play than we did last year, unless we get unexpected contributions at positions that right now are big question marks.

This to me smells like a 6-6 team.  Obviously, if there are answers at the questions, there is a lot of potential to outperform, and a 10-win season is not out of the question.  On the other hand, we are a couple of injuries (no worse than last year) at key positions away from a truly miserable season where 4-8 or worse are within the realm of possibility.

BC

Well, now that the season is over, we can evaluate my predictions.  I called a drop of .25 to .5 YPP on offense compared to last year’s 6.13; survey says we got 5.59 ypp, a drop of 0.54 ypp.  That’s a bit worse than I predicted, but not by much.  Defensively, we allowed 6.3 ypp, which is 0.6 ypp worse than the 5.7 YPP that I thought we would be hard pressed to improve on.  I called a 6-6 team, but the bolder statement was spot on, wasn’t it.

BC

That's a pretty impressive call, BC!

For myself, I think I was on target in my evaluation of safeties and ILB, which were not great. I think I overestimated how good CB would be; Adebo had multiple sub-par games, Eboh did not work out, and Kyu Blu was inconsistent (as might be expected from a true frosh). I predicted OLB would be fine, though not outstanding (which was true when healthy), and the same with D-line. I expected Booker would be better. Overall, the defense did maybe one standard deviation worse than I thought they would.

-m.

My biggest miss was at DL.  I said we were "strong".  In fact, the D-line was, at best, average.  I was rather disappointed by how they performed this year.  To some extent, it is hard to differentiate from the problems at ILB, but I don't think we were generating enough pressure on QB's (we had 27 sacks this year, down from 36 last year, and the fewest since 2009.  Likewise 71 TFL's is no better than last year, and again, there haven't been fewer TFL's since 2009.

BC

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - CTcard - 12-02-2019

(11-29-2019, 07:59 AM)donkey687 Wrote:  
(11-26-2019, 10:28 PM)Langdude Wrote:  M*A*S*H Unit. The following players did not appear against the Weenies due to injury.
  • Quarterback
    • KJ Costello, sr. Six games missed.
  • Running Back
    • Dorian Maddox, sr. Three games missed.
    • Trevor Speights, sr. Eleven games missed.
    • Justus Woods, so. Eleven games missed.
  • Tackle
    • Walker Little, jr. Ten games missed.
    • Grant Pease, so. Eleven games missed.
  • Guard
    • Devery Hamilton, sr. Seven games missed.
    • Henry Hattis, sr. Five games missed.
    • Dylan Powell, sr. Eleven games missed.
    • Branson Bragg, fr. Eight games missed.
    • Trey Stratford, so. Eleven games missed.
  • Outside Linebacker
    • Jordan Fox, sr. Six games missed.
    • Tobe Umerah, so. Five games missed.
  • Inside Linebacker
    • Ricky Miezan, so. Nine games missed.
    • JMF, so. Nine games missed.
  • Cornerback
    • Paulson Adebo, jr. Two game missed.
    • Ethan Bonner, so. Eleven games missed.
  • Safety
    • Malik Antoine, sr. Two game missed.
  • Kicker
    • Jet Toner, sr. Four games missed.
Other notes...
  • Past injuries
    • CB Treyjohn Butler, sr., missed six games.
    • TE Tucker Fisk, jr. missed one game.
    • S Stuart Head, jr., missed four games.
    • S Brock Jones, fr., missed one game.
    • QB Davis Mills, jr. missed two games.
    • DT Bo Peek, sr., missed one game.
    • ILB Curtis Robinson, sr., missed one game.
    • OT Foster Sarell, jr., missed one game.
    • WR Donald Stewart, sr., missed seven games.
    • S Kendall Williamson, so., missed one game.
  • If this list is correct, that's 167 player-games missed due to injury, an average of 15.2 per game.
  • I think I got all injuries. Any corrections are, as always, welcome.

What I find interesting about this list is the injury concentration in position groups. While the OL has been decimated, the WR, TE and DL position groups have largely been untouched.  If the absence of Turley is the cause of injuries, why are some position groups healthy and others unhealthy?  My theory is that injuries are mostly random and we had bad luck for them to concentrate in the areas where we had the least amount of depth (OL and ILB). That is an inconvenient theory for message boards as there is no one to point fingers at.

Well, Weddington also went out - I think after a the initial kickoff return in the cal game.
A graphic during the und game was that Stanford had 27 players out due to injury for the game. The list above has 19, adding Weddington would be 20. Not sure who the other 7 were. [Or perhaps I just remember it incorrectly.]

The DL seems to have been mostly unscathed.

Those who were prescient should add in their predictions for which bodies managed to play much of the season - the devastation was the most salient feature of the season. I've never seen anything like it.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - MVDan - 12-03-2019

Collin Riccitelli to the Transfer Portal.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Mick - 12-03-2019

(12-02-2019, 10:29 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Good call BC. Now that poster with a crush on me can down vote me again. LOL.

I gave you a +1, Phog.  Hope it makes you feel better...  ;)

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - BobK - 12-03-2019

Phog with a plus one. Wow lol

And two more in the portal. Not big news I’m told waiting to hear who

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - BostonCard - 12-03-2019

(12-03-2019, 06:37 PM)BobK Wrote:  And two more in the portal.  Not big news I’m told  waiting to hear who

You mean besides Bo Peek and Anthony Trinh (in the other thread).  I count four total, though more shoes to drop, I'm sure.

BC

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - SamuelMcF - 12-03-2019

(12-03-2019, 06:37 PM)BobK Wrote:  Phog with a plus one. Wow lol

And two more in the portal.  Not big news I’m told  waiting to hear who

4 so far. Riccitelli, Powell, Trinh, Peek.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - BobK - 12-03-2019

Powell long ago weird not listed
You two have the latest thanks

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Langdude - 12-09-2019

Can someone tell me the date that Powell left the team? It affects the injury numbers.

Is there anyone else that has left the team? The other portal declarations are still on the roster.

-m.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:02 PM)Langdude Wrote:  Can someone tell me the date that Powell left the team? It affects the injury numbers.

Is there anyone else that has left the team? The other portal declarations are still on the roster.

-m.

Powell was technically on the team all season, but injured.

Nobody left the team during the season, AFAIK. Some injured guys like Powell have had one foot out the door (especially if out for the season), but were still on the team. Let's ignore the portal stuff for the time being here. That should be reflected in the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel thread once it is started.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - Langdude - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:18 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 12:02 PM)Langdude Wrote:  Can someone tell me the date that Powell left the team? It affects the injury numbers.

Is there anyone else that has left the team? The other portal declarations are still on the roster.

-m.

Powell was technically on the team all season, but injured.

Nobody left the team during the season, AFAIK. Some injured guys like Powell have had one foot out the door (especially if out for the season), but were still on the team. Let's ignore the portal stuff for the time being here. That should be reflected in the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel thread once it is started.

I will not be reflecting the portal folks on the 2019 personnel list. Powell is the only player no longer on the roster. I am wondering why only him, and when he left.

I will be putting up the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel chart after the bowl games... Want to wrap up the year first.

-m.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:39 PM)Langdude Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 12:18 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 12:02 PM)Langdude Wrote:  Can someone tell me the date that Powell left the team? It affects the injury numbers.

Is there anyone else that has left the team? The other portal declarations are still on the roster.

-m.

Powell was technically on the team all season, but injured.

Nobody left the team during the season, AFAIK. Some injured guys like Powell have had one foot out the door (especially if out for the season), but were still on the team. Let's ignore the portal stuff for the time being here. That should be reflected in the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel thread once it is started.

I will not be reflecting the portal folks on the 2019 personnel list. Powell is the only player no longer on the roster. I am wondering why only him, and when he left.

I will be putting up the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel chart after the bowl games... Want to wrap up the year first.

-m.

Hmmmm, that's interesting. Wondering if/when the other portal guys commit somewhere else, will they be taken off the roster too?

I do know that Powell had a season-ending setback during his injury recovery around the middle of the season. It's possible he started visiting other schools and whatnot at that point, and was therefore removed from the roster.

RE: 2019 Stanford Football Personnel - 82lsju - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:39 PM)Langdude Wrote:  I will not be reflecting the portal folks on the 2019 personnel list. Powell is the only player no longer on the roster. I am wondering why only him, and when he left.

I will be putting up the 2020 Stanford Football Personnel chart after the bowl games... Want to wrap up the year first.

-m.

the transfer portal shows him as going to Indiana so maybe that's why he's no longer on our roster

https://247sports.com/college/stanford/Season/2020-Football/TransferPortal/

which is confirmed

Quote:The future of Indiana’s offensive line got a big boost Friday evening as Stanford offensive lineman Dylan Powell announced his intentions to transfer to Indiana
...
[Powell] did not play in 2019 after entering the NCAA Transfer Portal in October.
...
Powell also told Peegs.com that he plans on submitting an appeal for a sixth season, so he could be a Hoosier for the 2021 season as well.

https://hoosierhuddle.com/hoosier-blog/former-stanford-ol-dylan-powell-commits-to-indiana/2019/12/6

Quote:I am excited to announce that I will be finishing my football career and pursing my MBA at Indiana University. I can’t wait to get up to Bloomington and do something special. I’m thankful for the opportunity

https://twitter.com/Dylan_Powell74/status/1203107610309869570/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1203107610309869570&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoosierhuddle.com%2Fhoosier-blog%2Fformer-stanford-ol-dylan-powell-commits-to-indiana%2F2019%2F12%2F6

RE: Class of 2020 - Langdude - 12-16-2019

Walk-On Union Watch. My continued slow roll-out of Stanford's last game of the season... Eight non-scholarship players got PT against the Irish. At some point in the many coming weeks and months of no Stanford football, I'll do some sort of post mortem on redshirt appearances this season. In addition...