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RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - StanFanFam13 - 11-17-2019

Nice to see Jones stepping up under pressure. Conversely, I feel like Belibi's inexperience is really showing. (Btw, is it just me, or do our livestream announcers keep mispronouncing her name??)

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - JJJ - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 07:13 PM)StanFanFam13 Wrote: Nice to see Jones stepping up under pressure. Conversely, I feel like Belibi's inexperience is really showing. (Btw, is it just me, or do our livestream announcers keep mispronouncing her name??)

Announcers mispronounce names like it’s a prerequisite for the job. (Exhibit A: Yogi Roth and Fehoko yesterday)

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - 2006alum - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 07:13 PM)StanFanFam13 Wrote: Nice to see Jones stepping up under pressure. Conversely, I feel like Belibi's inexperience is really showing. (Btw, is it just me, or do our livestream announcers keep mispronouncing her name??)

This is the difference between raw talent and high basketball IQ. Belibi is great when refs let 'em play, but she's not technically sound to avoid silly fouls and errant passes when everything isn't clicking just right. By contrast, Jones has such a wide arsenal to draw on and can create her own shot, dish terrific disguised passes, and work either in transition or in traffic. She's also a little reticent to draw contact, which is a blessing in a Missy-ref'd game.

And yes, they have botched her name every time they've said it. Which is especially weird because the way they are pronouncing it isn't even internally consistent with the repeated vowels in her name...

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - Canalejas - 11-17-2019

This crowd sounds super frustrated every time we miss a shot, especially from the free throw line.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - CompSci87 - 11-17-2019

Adrianna and Keenan Fitzmorris (WVB and MBB) were out with the Dollies waving the Stanford flags. Keenan had a hard time keeping his untangled, but was having a lot of fun!

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - triangle2 - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 07:28 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: Adrianna and Keenan Fitzmorris (WVB and MBB) were out with the Dollies waving the Stanford flags. Keenan had a hard time keeping his untangled, but was having a lot of fun!

Sloppy play at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Williams and Carrington need to make better decisions.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - TheFarm07 - 11-17-2019

We do not look like the #3 ranked team in the country. It's a comedy of errors out there

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - mbdude - 11-17-2019

Belibi's hands have betrayed her several times

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - martyup - 11-17-2019

Holy crap. It's tied with 5 seconds left. Zags with the ball.

Over f'ing time

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - 82lsju - 11-17-2019

we win in OT 76-70

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - martyup - 11-17-2019

That was a nail biter. Missed free throws almost cost us this game. Too sloppy. Too close for comfort. Lexie is a star. What's up with Carrington? Jones was solid.

Just beat a ranked team. But too close for the heart.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Gonzaga 5pm Sunday - BosCard - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 08:26 PM)82lsju Wrote: we win in OT 76-70

Ugly game. Missed free throws and poor officiating. But the team showed a lot of grit and prevailed. Williams and Lexie were really tough at the end of regulation and in overtime.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - jonnyss - 11-17-2019

haley was great for a stretch. fran played great defense - quite disruptive inside.

tara used ashten for offense and fran for defense.

hannah jump played well.

kiana started slow, finished strong.

lexie was amazing at the end of overtime. her 2 steals in the final 2 minutes put the game out of reach

dijonai sure had an off day...

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - triangle2 - 11-17-2019

The Missy call on Jones was ridiculous -- yet another attention-seeking march to the monitor to make the game about her. Kudos to the team for shaking that off and finding a way to win. Lexie had great minutes in OT. I appreciate how she uses her length to get shots off under pressure.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - 81alum - 11-17-2019

My write-up is done at the top. Kudos to Lexie and Williams, especially. Lexie I am sure will be featured in the Spokane papers tomorrow.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - TheFarm07 - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 10:32 PM)triangle2 Wrote: The Missy call on Jones was ridiculous -- yet another attention-seeking march to the monitor to make the game about her. Kudos to the team for shaking that off and finding a way to win. Lexie had great minutes in OT. I appreciate how she uses her length to get shots off under pressure.

Is there a review process for officials or any ability for coaches or schools to provide feedback during the offseason? I am not well versed in the world of officiating whether for college or the professionals.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - crackpot - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 10:46 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote: Is there a review process for officials or any ability for coaches or schools to provide feedback during the offseason? I am not well versed in the world of officiating whether for college or the professionals.

IIRC, the teams submit something after each game. The conference awards slots in the bigger games (e.g., conference tournament) to refs it deems worthy. Of course, Missy is one of their favorites.

She has had some doozies over the years, but wire-to-wire this had to be her worst game ever. But it's getting old, and the team needs to compensate for that.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - chimera - 11-17-2019

The good - Prechtel saved our bacon in the first half, Jones showed out in the second half, Lexie Hull put the game away in OT with some gritty scores, and Williams overcame a slow start to lead the team well in the second half. The team hung in there and persevered despite struggling to shoot well.

The bad - Carrington had a very uncharacteristically bad game with stuff she did when she was a freshman like driving into traffic wildly and getting called for charges. I assume that is an anomaly and she will be back to usual next game (if she is not hurt or ill and did not look hurt). Rebounding is still not close to where it needs to be, both positioning and hanging onto the ball. Got rebounds stripped away way too often. FT shooting? Ugh. Three-point shooting - double ugh.

I do wonder what is going on with Williams' layup finishes. She does great work to get to the basket and then misses the shot, which would seem to be the easy part after getting there. Not a new thing but worrisome. Fingall does not seem back to even 90% yet. Not much can be done but wait and hope she regains her form and that her knee is really ok.

I think if we shoot at all well this game is a blowout. Can't shoot much worse from deep or at the FT line.

I am really pleased with the frosh. They are inconsistent, which is to be expected, but each has had moments of great play as well. They will learn and improve and it speaks well of them how much time they are getting in this sort of game. The big issue to me in this game was the upperclass(wo)men. We need Williams, Carrington, and Jerome to do more early to set the right tone in a game like this one. Jerome has played well but not so much the last few games, nothing overtly bad, just not enough positives.

Bottom line is we won't win against top teams if Williams and Carrington combine for 2 points in a first half. We need them both clicking, and not just for a half.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - teejers1 - 11-17-2019

A handful of takes from inside Maples:

1. And I hate to lead with it, but that was the WORST officiated game I've seen in a long time. And it wasn't so much the bad calls - of which there were plenty, with I'd say about 50% going in Stanford's favor - but as another poster noted, it was the "stop the game while I do something important at the scorer's table and you all wait and watch." It was beyond annoying, and struck me as incredibly egocentric and unprofessional. WTH is going on with MB, in particular?

2. For the 1H, I thought Tara was coaching a hockey with team, with the way she was running subs in and out, with players on the floor for 1-3 minutes before being pulled again. The worst treatment was for Carrington, who was plainly peeved at game's end (right from post-game huddle at midcourt to the locker room - the first one to exit Maples). And I don't blame her. Yeah, she forced a couple shots - but she wasn't the only one. But the leash was ridiculously short for her, especially a player with her resume. I'm wondering if something went on in practices leading up to this game. Whatever, I hope/trust things get worked out with Carrington, who was a complete non-factor today. More generally, Tara has to give groups on the floor more time to play and get into the flow. It was only when she halted the player line subs that Stanford got some flow (and that's when Haley, in particular, got going).

3. Interestingly, Lexie played the entire 1H (which stood in stark contrast to most of the sub patterns). She started out hot, but grew fatigued as the half wore down - very predictably. And was cold shooting later in 1H (i.e., 2Q). Strange that Lexie didn't get some rest earlier than she did. Overall, Lexie had a very strong game, so this is picking at the edges, but I think it could have been better with a little better PT management.

4. Stanford really needs to work on being "strong with the ball." Too many times balls were fumbled away, or grabbed for a moment, or not secured. Gonzaga, otoh, was physically stronger and bullied Stanford around quite a bit.

5. Last point: Gonzaga is very well-coached. That entire team boxed out, played hard for the entire game, and pursued their game plan to a tee. I was impressed.

P.S. I'd say Kiana is the most indispensable player on this very talented roster.

RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Gonzaga 70 OT - TheFarm07 - 11-17-2019

(11-17-2019, 11:12 PM)teejers1 Wrote: A handful of takes from inside Maples:

1. And I hate to lead with it, but that was the WORST officiated game I've seen in a long time. And it wasn't so much the bad calls - of which there were plenty, with I'd say about 50% going in Stanford's favor - but as another poster noted, it was the "stop the game while I do something important at the scorer's table and you all wait and watch." It was beyond annoying, and struck me as incredibly egocentric and unprofessional. WTH is going on with MB, in particular?

2. For the 1H, I thought Tara was coaching a hockey with team, with the way she was running subs in and out, with players on the floor for 1-3 minutes before being pulled again. The worst treatment was for Carrington, who was plainly peeved at game's end (right from post-game huddle at midcourt to the locker room - the first one to exit Maples). And I don't blame her. Yeah, she forced a couple shots - but she wasn't the only one. But the leash was ridiculously short for her, especially a player with her resume. I'm wondering if something went on in practices leading up to this game. Whatever, I hope/trust things get worked out with Carrington, who was a complete non-factor today. More generally, Tara has to give groups on the floor more time to play and get into the flow. It was only when she halted the player line subs that Stanford got some flow (and that's when Haley, in particular, got going).

3. Interestingly, Lexie played the entire 1H (which stood in stark contrast to most of the sub patterns). She started out hot, but grew fatigued as the half wore down - very predictably. And was cold shooting later in 1H (i.e., 2Q). Strange that Lexie didn't get some rest earlier than she did. Overall, Lexie had a very strong game, so this is picking at the edges, but I think it could have been better with a little better PT management.

4. Stanford really needs to work on being "strong with the ball." Too many times balls were fumbled away, or grabbed for a moment, or not secured. Gonzaga, otoh, was physically stronger and bullied Stanford around quite a bit.

5. Last point: Gonzaga is very well-coached. That entire team boxed out, played hard for the entire game, and pursued their game plan to a tee. I was impressed.

P.S. I'd say Kiana is the most indispensable player on this very talented roster.

Co-signed on all of your takes.

On your second point, I was and am very surprised that DiJonai played far less than what I thought and expected she would be playing during the critical parts of the game (the fourth quarter and overtime) as one of our top players and a senior leader. It was startling to see her get yanked after only a few minutes on court. Yes, she was making some head-scratching decisions, but so were others. You would think Tara would want her out there, not just with the tangible skills she has scoring and defending, but also as the fearless, most experienced player in crunch time on our roster.