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RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - winflop - 03-17-2021

(03-17-2021, 01:45 PM)Stanfordindians1again Wrote:  anyone know what Dawkins contact $ per year was?

Looks like his initial contract was around $1M/yr https://winninghoops.com/news/stanford-extends-johnny-dawkins-contract/

After he was fired he sued Stanford for $2.3M compensatory + $5M punitive damages. At that point he had two years left on his contract so that would point to $1.15M/yr

His initial contract with UCF was $1.1M/yr

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - CompSci87 - 03-17-2021

(03-17-2021, 12:02 PM)gailtate Wrote:  Here's one for Phogge: Say "Utah basketball" and I think of...Billy "The Hill" McGill.

Then, I think of Rick Majerus.

I had forgotten Majerus was at Utah. He was an assistant at Marquette when I was an undergrad there.

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - Stanfordindians1again - 03-17-2021

thanks Winflop.

So in comparing Dawkins to Coach K at Utah...similar results as someone shared earlier... but at $1.1m for Dawkins compared to $3.76 mill a year for Coach K, it becomes even more obvious why they got rid of him.

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - oldalum - 03-17-2021

(03-17-2021, 05:12 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  I had forgotten Majerus was at Utah.
It's a good thing he was: his legendary use of foul language is why we got Mad Dog Madsen instead of Utah.

RE: lex24 - lex24 - 03-17-2021

(03-17-2021, 12:28 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  
(03-16-2021, 09:24 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(03-16-2021, 06:15 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  The Utah AD cited not taking team to the NCAA Tournament since 2018 as one key reason for the departure.

This is what I mean by Stanford lacking any performance standard coaches are held accountable to meeting. Utah has a discernible standard. Stanford does n
ot.

It does?  Is it is writing.  C’mon.  You fire your coach, you find the “discernible standard.”

Bill Walsh taught me the significance of setting performance standards and holding people accountable to them as a prerequisite for winning. 

It's important because when everyone is aligned with a goal, the odds of it being achieved increase significantly. At the same time, lacking agreed to standards makes winning less likely, as is evident with Stanford MBB.

What is it that makes Stanford win Directors Cups?  My suspicion is the entire university is aligned to win them and that's why it happens, not because of some amazing ongoing annual coincidence.

Stanford wins Directors Cups because it excels in Country Club and Women’s sports.  And because no other University in the Country cares about the Directors Cup.

Didn’t know you worked for Walsh. In what capacity?

RE: lex24 - winflop - 03-18-2021

(03-17-2021, 09:49 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(03-17-2021, 12:28 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  
(03-16-2021, 09:24 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(03-16-2021, 06:15 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  The Utah AD cited not taking team to the NCAA Tournament since 2018 as one key reason for the departure.

This is what I mean by Stanford lacking any performance standard coaches are held accountable to meeting. Utah has a discernible standard. Stanford does n
ot.

It does?  Is it is writing.  C’mon.  You fire your coach, you find the “discernible standard.”

Bill Walsh taught me the significance of setting performance standards and holding people accountable to them as a prerequisite for winning. 

It's important because when everyone is aligned with a goal, the odds of it being achieved increase significantly. At the same time, lacking agreed to standards makes winning less likely, as is evident with Stanford MBB.

What is it that makes Stanford win Directors Cups?  My suspicion is the entire university is aligned to win them and that's why it happens, not because of some amazing ongoing annual coincidence.

Stanford wins Directors Cups because it excels in Country Club and Women’s sports.  And because no other University in the Country cares about the Directors Cup.

Didn’t know you worked for Walsh.  In what capacity?

I'm all on board with winning Director's Cups and I don't care that no other university does as much. But you also have to have winning programs in football, MBB, and in our case WBB to make enough money to support the other programs.

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - BostonCard - 03-18-2021

Other athletic departments care so little about the directors cup that they put out press releases when they come in fourth!

https://mgoblue.com/news/2016/1/14/Michigan_Fourth_Nationally_in_Directors_Cup.aspx

And Michigan is hardly the only school to do this.

BC

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - Phogge - 03-18-2021

For Gailtate... McGill was a legend playing for Jeff HS in LA. It was public knowledge that Pete Newell really wanted him and a friend close to Pete Peletta at USF told me that Pete thought that he could be, “Another Russell” on the Hilltop.

Majerus lived in a room at the Utah Hotel in downtown Salt Lake. Legend has it that he never fixed a meal for himself and lived off room service and local restaurants. I worked with Al McGuire on a 13 episode series and he had hundreds of stories including some of Majerus.

My favorite Al story happened on a shoot in NYC. We were staying at the Holiday Inn on West 57th down near CBS. My wife was on business in the City at the same time and we went to Patsy’s for dinner so I missed Al (a prodigious walker) and our PA on a crosstown jaunt to PJ Clark’s. At the bar Al filled into a conversation with a short fellow on the next stool. The guy knew all about the Knicks and of Al’s time there. It went on for most of two hours. Al couldn’t remember half of the things discussed and on the way back the PA said that it was great meeting the guy. She was star struck. Al asked her why. She replied, “That was Dustin Hoffman!” Al said, “Who?” Movies were not on his radar. Neither were spectator sports. He had attended one baseball game in his life and no football. He was fluent in many things, a real Renaissance Man. We used to trade old toy soldiers. The series was successful but it kept him out of Milwaukee and so he cancelled. One of my great shoots ever.

RE: P12 Coach K fired by Utah - CompSci87 - 03-18-2021

Thanks for the McGuire story! He was of course a legend in Milwaukee where I grew up. He retired after winning the national championship at Marquette in 1977, and I started as a student there in the fall of that year, so I just missed the chance to go to games he coached. The team was still very good under Hank Raymonds with Majerus as lead assistant, but it wasn't the same.