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RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - chrisk - 10-23-2023
Shaw is employed by NFL Network but I haven’t seen him on the little game day coverage I have watched.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - PAsportsfan - 10-23-2023
(10-23-2023, 09:36 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:(10-22-2023, 01:43 PM)PAsportsfan Wrote:(10-22-2023, 12:48 PM)JohnR34231 Wrote: IMO, people should remember the good things David Shaw did at Stanford rather than the bad things, and move on.
Shaw was hired to do one job, don't mess up Luck's last year. How did that work out?
Huh??? This may be the most bizarre Shaw take I've heard yet.
Thank goodness no one else held this view or we would've been deprived of three of the greatest seasons in program history.
You could pick anyone from this photo and they would have coached better.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreamstime.com%2Feditorial-stock-photo-people-crowd-big-sitting-concert-image63669218&psig=AOvVaw30wPrCtlxJFJZ3UGolFhJR&ust=1698175410839000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPD5m8XyjIIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 76lsjumb - 10-23-2023
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Vandelay dateline='[url=tel:1698003675' Wrote: 1698003675[/url]']
Of all the things to be outraged over, David Shaw's absence from last night's game is not one of them.
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - MV72018 - 10-23-2023
(10-22-2023, 12:48 PM)JohnR34231 Wrote: IMO, people should remember the good things David Shaw did at Stanford rather than the bad things, and move on.
I get that that's your opinion. But the fact that that's your opinion is of zero interest to me, just as it would be of zero interest to you if I said only that IMO Stanford will not have a football team 7-10 years from now.
What MIGHT be of interest to me is WHY that is your opinion. About that we might have a meaningful discussion.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - BobK - 10-23-2023
7 Rose Bowls in my Lifetine 3 coached by Shaw. Plus I attended them. For which as a fan I’m forever grateful
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - gailtate - 10-23-2023
(10-22-2023, 12:48 PM)JohnR34231 Wrote: IMO, people should remember the good things David Shaw did at Stanford rather than the bad things, and move on.
So you want to go all Mark McGwire on us or something? In the immortal words of our oft-beleaguered commander-in-chief:"C'mon, man!" Hey, If you choose to airbrush and mentally redact all the "bad" stuff, (which really isn't "bad", strictly speaking) good for you. "Move on", indeed, as you advise. However, big-time coaches, particularly the royally prosperous and wealthy ones, are not, repeat NOT, entitled to unconditional, eternal adoration. I will tip my visor to our former coach. But I will not give him a pass on brainfarts, negligence, or let him slide. Hey, I raised more than my share of toasts to Stanford HCs over the decades who gave us all "Two Tickets to Paradise". But I also paid for the privilege and the airfare and the hotel suites to get myself in position to raise those jars. I will gripe and rake and excoriate to my heart's content, too, when the moment calls for it. It comes with the territory. Coach(es) know that. They are richly compensated as well.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - cardcrimson - 10-23-2023
(10-23-2023, 12:57 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Vandelay dateline='[url=tel:1698003675' Wrote: 1698003675[/url]']
Of all the things to be outraged over, David Shaw's absence from last night's game is not one of them.
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 2006alum - 10-23-2023
(10-23-2023, 06:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-23-2023, 12:57 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Vandelay dateline='[url=tel:1698003675' Wrote: 1698003675[/url]']
Of all the things to be outraged over, David Shaw's absence from last night's game is not one of them.
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing people whine about Shaw that I'm thankful every time we can go five posts without his name being mentioned. He's not our coach anymore, and whatever he did to contribute to the state of our football program has been so overdissected over the past year(s) that the topic has become a real, boring yawner.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - cardcrimson - 10-23-2023
(10-23-2023, 09:27 PM)2006alum Wrote:(10-23-2023, 06:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-23-2023, 12:57 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Vandelay dateline='[url=tel:1698003675' Wrote: 1698003675[/url]']
Of all the things to be outraged over, David Shaw's absence from last night's game is not one of them.
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing people whine about Shaw that I'm thankful every time we can go five posts without his name being mentioned. He's not our coach anymore, and whatever he did to contribute to the state of our football program has been so overdissected over the past year(s) that the topic has become a real, boring yawner.
And yet you're commenting on it. Must not be that boring of a yawner to you. . . .
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 76lsjumb - 10-23-2023
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cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing people whine about Shaw that I'm thankful every time we can go five posts without his name being mentioned. He's not our coach anymore, and whatever he did to contribute to the state of our football program has been so overdissected over the past year(s) that the topic has become a real, boring yawner.
And yet you're commenting on it. Must not be that boring of a yawner to you. . . .
Aren’t you clever…
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 2006alum - 10-24-2023
(10-23-2023, 09:42 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-23-2023, 09:27 PM)2006alum Wrote:(10-23-2023, 06:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-23-2023, 12:57 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing people whine about Shaw that I'm thankful every time we can go five posts without his name being mentioned. He's not our coach anymore, and whatever he did to contribute to the state of our football program has been so overdissected over the past year(s) that the topic has become a real, boring yawner.
And yet you're commenting on it. Must not be that boring of a yawner to you. . . .
You literally asked us to explain why we weren't posting about or interested in this story. My fault for giving you what you asked for, I guess...
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 81alum - 10-24-2023
(10-23-2023, 01:59 PM)BobK Wrote: 7 Rose Bowls in my Lifetine 3 coached by Shaw. Plus I attended them. For which as a fan I’m forever grateful+
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - george - 10-24-2023
(10-22-2023, 09:12 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:(10-22-2023, 08:33 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(10-22-2023, 07:02 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(10-22-2023, 01:30 PM)msqueri Wrote: In terms of other commentary I did my usual long thoughts posts on the various sites but can’t remember/figure out how to get around this board’s annoying screwing up of text, so if anybody wants to post my thoughts here that’s cool with me.
Maybe one of the admins can help Matt out?
Hope so.
I would if I knew what he was referring to.
Matt, can you be specific, please?
Did we ever get an answer here? I've really missed Matt's posts / analysis.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - martyup - 10-24-2023
It sure gets chippy on here when our football team is losing.
Let's be respectful. We're all disappointed.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - Mick - 10-24-2023
I'm not disappointed. Stanford football is doing a bit better than I expected, and the upset over Colorado was a lot of fun. It's going to be two more years before Stanford rights the ship, but I have confidence that they will do so. I think they recruit the right kind of player, and I will certainly give the current coaching staff a lot of rope, given the abysmal situation they found themselves in, vis-a-vis the NIL and portal environments.
And it should go without saying that I really liked Matt's posts. Read every word, disagreed with almost none of it.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - SkiBum80 - 10-24-2023
(10-23-2023, 09:27 PM)2006alum Wrote:Yes, he's not our coach any more, and lots and lots board posts about Coach TT and this year's team.(10-23-2023, 06:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-23-2023, 12:57 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:cardcrimson dateline='[url=tel:1698007839' Wrote: 1698007839[/url]']
Vandelay dateline='[url=tel:1698003675' Wrote: 1698003675[/url]']
Of all the things to be outraged over, David Shaw's absence from last night's game is not one of them.
Who's outraged?
You’re right. “Ridiculously obsessed” would have been a more appropriate term.
Who's obsessed? Our former coach has a son playing for our opponent. Interesting situation, don't you think? Add in he's our winningest coach ever, how he left, the shitshow he left behind. Pretty newsworthy, right? Yet crickets until this thread, and only one comment confirming he was in attendance. What's happened to journalism, or at least sportsboard investigative sleuthing?
Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing people whine about Shaw that I'm thankful every time we can go five posts without his name being mentioned. He's not our coach anymore, and whatever he did to contribute to the state of our football program has been so overdissected over the past year(s) that the topic has become a real, boring yawner.
But we still sometimes can't help but talk about Coach Shaw some more, for the same reason people still read "A Tale of Two Cities": It was the best of times, it was the worst of times....
(10-24-2023, 11:46 AM)Mick Wrote: I'm not disappointed. Stanford football is doing a bit better than I expected, and the upset over Colorado was a lot of fun. It's going to be two more years before Stanford rights the ship, but I have confidence that they will do so. I think they recruit the right kind of player, and I will certainly give the current coaching staff a lot of rope, given the abysmal situation they found themselves in, vis-a-vis the NIL and portal environments.
And it should go without saying that I really liked Matt's posts. Read every word, disagreed with almost none of it.
Yes agreed very much hope we get a msqueri post.
The irony of this year's stumbling team, is that if we lose the rest of the games (against really good teams) and yet pull out a win against dreaded CAL, we will have matched last year's record. Which I'd then consider quite a success of a season for Coach TT and Co, after being pummeled with perhaps the worst transfer portal abandonment of any PAC-12 team ever, except of course at Colorado where the transfers out were hounded out like cattle being chased with a hot prod.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - murky - 10-24-2023
(10-23-2023, 09:36 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:(10-22-2023, 01:43 PM)PAsportsfan Wrote:(10-22-2023, 12:48 PM)JohnR34231 Wrote: IMO, people should remember the good things David Shaw did at Stanford rather than the bad things, and move on.
Shaw was hired to do one job, don't mess up Luck's last year. How did that work out?
Huh??? This may be the most bizarre Shaw take I've heard yet.
Thank goodness no one else held this view or we would've been deprived of three of the greatest seasons in program history.
I think popular, or at least loud, opinion is that any middling coach could have delivered those 3 seasons. Maybe I'm getting the sites mixed up now that I've gone back to one of the pay sites as well.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - BobK - 10-24-2023
That’s Rivals Murky. Where some posters even could have done better
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - cardcrimson - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 03:55 PM)BobK Wrote: That’s Rivals Murky. Where some posters even could have done better
The two sites definitely lean different directions. For the majority here, Shaw still walks on water. For many there, he is the Great Satan. Always good to listen to, and appreciate, differing perspectives, no matter what the subject matter.
RE: Shocking lack of commentary from last night's game. - 82lsju - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 04:13 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(10-24-2023, 03:55 PM)BobK Wrote: That’s Rivals Murky. Where some posters even could have done better
The two sites definitely lean different directions. For the majority here, Shaw still walks on water. For many there, he is the Great Satan. Always good to listen to, and appreciate, differing perspectives, no matter what the subject matter.
I think more than a few of us are grateful for the Rose Bowls but think he should have left 3 years earlier...