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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - jonnyss - 12-09-2022

i, too, would guess they didn't agree on salary. if that's the case, we don't know which side was unreasonable. stanford could have offered 2 million. garrett could have asked for 10 million.

what else can happen last minute at both duke and stanford? well, there's also the "anything else in your past we should know about?" question.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BostonCard - 12-09-2022

He had allies of his telling the world how wonderful he was and he let himself be seen publicly at Stanford. He also lost out publicly for the Duke job in a similar fashion. Suggests either he misjudged his chances or was led in the wrong direction. Stanford being Penny wise pound foolish is certainly possible (indeed, given what we know about the institution, reasonably likely), but it’s also possible that Garrett misjudged things or botched the interviews. Again, it seems to have happened to him last year, too, which makes me wonder if Stanford screwed up or if Garrett screwed up.

I would add Garrett’s statement was fine, and he probably had to put out something after letting it be so public. 

BC

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - martyup - 12-09-2022

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - jonnyss - 12-09-2022

i hear josh mcdaniels is available, cheap...and we're a turtle sanctuary.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - washingtonismoney - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 08:04 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  I would add Garrett’s statement was fine, and he probably had to put out something after letting it be so public. 

I think it's the timing that doesn't sit well -- right after all the build-up. A few reporters immediately reacted as if Garrett was withdrawing from consideration. So it looks like brand management: not Garrett being rejected, but Garrett doing the rejecting. Fair enough, I suppose, but I do think it's a bit petty.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - lex24 - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 08:12 AM)jonnyss Wrote:  i hear josh mcdaniels is available, cheap...and we're a turtle sanctuary.

Just not Bloomgren.  Taylor is not my cup of tea philosophy wise.  But I think a clean break is important.  I heard Garrett was  ready to sign, but ABC matched the salary. Oh wait, wrong guy,  wrong sport……

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - needle - 12-09-2022

If Garrett was Stanford’s top choice and Garrett really was super intrigued, I think the interview would have likely happened closer in time to when the job came open.

So my guess is that things were never red hot on one or both sides, which would have made any sticking points (portal, salary, staff composition) loom extra large.

But that’s just a guess.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - gailtate - 12-09-2022

I can't get excited about ANYBODY that a Muir-led search ends up with today.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BostonCard - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 08:18 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote:  

(12-09-2022, 08:04 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  I would add Garrett’s statement was fine, and he probably had to put out something after letting it be so public. 

I think it's the timing that doesn't sit well -- right after all the build-up. A few reporters immediately reacted as if Garrett was withdrawing from consideration. So it looks like brand management: not Garrett being rejected, but Garrett doing the rejecting. Fair enough, I suppose, but I do think it's a bit petty.

I think the error was in the build-up not the climb-down.  It is possible that the relative buzz on the three candidates reflects their relative pecking order.  That Garrett was the top choice, Taylor was next, and Brennan was eliminated early, and that Stanford and Garrett just couldn’t agree on terms. It’s also possible that the relative buzz has come from the candidates themselves, and that Garrett thought he had it in the bag (or was campaigning for it via proxies) despite merely being one of the finalists.

This sort of thing happens often enough that it’s not that big a deal.  The only issue is that it’s not like Garrett can point to a shiny new contract in his current position to make it look like his offer was matched.

BC

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - MV72018 - 12-09-2022

No evidence that it is the case, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Andrew Luck was appointed the new football coach. Is it just coincidence that he came out this week and allegedly revealed "the real reason" he retired? Andrew has a good or great offensive mind, is charismatic, articulate, and was a genuine scholar-athlete. I'd be delighted if he were offered the position and accepted it,

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - 82lsju - 12-09-2022

did anyone get this email???  I did not...but no one has ever accused me of being a "select Stanford donor"...

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BostonCard - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 12:50 PM)MV72018 Wrote:  No evidence that it is the case, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Andrew Luck was appointed the new football coach. Is it just coincidence that he came out this week and allegedly revealed "the real reason" he retired? Andrew has a good or great offensive mind, is charismatic, articulate, and was a genuine scholar-athlete. I'd be delighted if he were offered the position and accepted it,

As I posted elsewhere, great players are only sometimes good coaches, and Luck has no experience at all coaching.

BC

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - JohnR34231 - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 01:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  

(12-09-2022, 12:50 PM)MV72018 Wrote:  No evidence that it is the case, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Andrew Luck was appointed the new football coach. Is it just coincidence that he came out this week and allegedly revealed "the real reason" he retired? Andrew has a good or great offensive mind, is charismatic, articulate, and was a genuine scholar-athlete. I'd be delighted if he were offered the position and accepted it,

As I posted elsewhere, great players are only sometimes good coaches, and Luck has no experience at all coaching.

BC

IIRC Kal fans were very enthusiastic when Joe Kapp was appointed head football coach. Didn't work out very well.
If I were the new coach I would try to get Luck out to work with the QB's.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - jacket3ree - 12-09-2022

These coaching searches in the age of social media are always interesting. So much speculation, but no one really knows what is going on behind the curtain. I don't really understand why anyone is livid that Jason Garrett didn't get the job or tweeted that he is happy to stay at NBC. Of course someone had to screw up, right? I know less than anyone else on this board, but it could be as simple as Muir evaluated X candidates, possibly whittled them down to three finalists, talked to each of them in more depth (and that can't happen simultaneously), then let the two also-rans know.  One would hope they wouldn't say anything to the world, but maybe Garrett had told all his friends, like Michelle Tafoya, he was going after the job, they publicly supported him, and he felt he needed to say something to save face, or just say something. His tweet was fine and respectful. How does anyone know he was lowballed?  Stanford could pay half of what they were paying Shaw and it would still be a mid-tier salary.

Sounds like I am in the minority, but of the three purported finalists, Taylor, Brennan, and Garrett, Garrett was a solid #3.  He has as much college coaching experience as I do.

Coach selected - presser early next week suggests Taylor or No One Saw That Coming.  If it is Taylor, I feel bad for the Hornets. They are in a real postseason (unlike non-CFP bowl teams) and however this goes down, I hope they aren't left wondering "what if" their post season wasn't nuked by disruption. I get that it always happens and it is worse with the early signing date and portal, but it still sucks.  Normally I would root for Incarnate Word because of the name (and they are plural Cardinals to boot), but I hope the Hornets TCOB and win it all.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 01:50 PM)jacket3ree Wrote:  Sounds like I am in the minority, but of the three purported finalists, Taylor, Brennan, and Garrett, Garrett was a solid #3.  He has as much college coaching experience as I do.

Brennan was never a finalist.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - Mick - 12-09-2022

(12-08-2022, 11:37 PM)triangle2 Wrote:  

(12-08-2022, 11:27 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Last night at this hour, I was like “weird that there hasn’t been much leaking about the coaching search”

Maybe somebody was listening.

BC

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(12-07-2022, 11:57 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Have to say, there haven’t been a ton of leaks about the process. If a coach really is being announced tomorrow, I’m a little surprised that Twitter hasn’t been abuzz with a name.  Maybe it’s on one of the other sites, or maybe no one cares, or maybe Muir runs a tight ship…

BC

Muir: “hold my beer”

BC

Is it permissible on the board to use the term "bleepshow"? Why would you bring Garrett on campus in such a public manner if you weren't planning on offering him the job? Makes me think Muir delusionally thought that Garrett was going to say yes to something like, "we're going to offer you not enough $ to buy a 3 bedroom house in Professorville." What if you're Tara VanDerveer? You're probably thinking "I can wait for Muir to leave so that he doesn't screw up the best planned coach transition in history."

My suspicion is that it would be Garrett who made demands surrounding admissions, NIL and the transfer portal, the answers to which ended his candidacy.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - washingtonismoney - 12-09-2022

Obviously I am pretty biased on this subject -- see earlier posts on this thread -- but let's keep in mind Garrett finished as the runner-up (if not further back) with the Duke football search. It's possible that he is simply not a terribly appealing presence to people who aren't NFL owners.

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BostonCard - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 02:31 AM)TinderForMidgets Wrote:  I'm told that the third person was Brent Brennan. He's out already.

Quote:Brennan was never a finalist.

Interesting.

BC

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - MV72018 - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 01:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  

(12-09-2022, 12:50 PM)MV72018 Wrote:  No evidence that it is the case, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Andrew Luck was appointed the new football coach. Is it just coincidence that he came out this week and allegedly revealed "the real reason" he retired? Andrew has a good or great offensive mind, is charismatic, articulate, and was a genuine scholar-athlete. I'd be delighted if he were offered the position and accepted it,

As I posted elsewhere, great players are only sometimes good coaches, and Luck has no experience at all coaching.

BC

That's obviously true, on both counts. There is no guarantee that someone from ANY category of candidate will necessarily be a good coach, whether s/he was a great player, a mediocre player, a non-player, experienced or inexperienced, charismatic or uncharismatic, etc., etc., etc.

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(12-09-2022, 01:30 PM)82lsju Wrote:  did anyone get this email???  I did not...but no one has ever accused me of being a "select Stanford donor"...

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(12-09-2022, 01:30 PM)82lsju Wrote:  did anyone get this email???  I did not...but no one has ever accused me of being a "select Stanford donor"...

Who exactly is it that manufactures this "new head football" that "has been found"? Wilson, Nike, or Big Game USA?

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RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - cardcrimson - 12-09-2022

(12-09-2022, 01:30 PM)82lsju Wrote:  did anyone get this email???  I did not...but no one has ever accused me of being a "select Stanford donor"...

Phishing attempt.

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