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RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - BobK - 03-23-2026

Phogge says 92


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-23-2026

(03-22-2026, 09:39 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(03-22-2026, 08:05 AM)Giants Wrote:  Austin Slater released (at his request) from his minor league contract with Detroit.  He is now a free agent.

He was struggling a bit. 10 strikeouts in 30 ABs, but five walks. Line of .267/.389/.467/.856. Great OBP, very good OPS.

Late Night LaMonte Wade was also released by the White Sox.

White Sox also released Ryan Borucki, left handed reliever, 0.00 ERA, six games (one start), six innings pitched, only allowed three runs, struck out EIGHT, WHIP of 0.67. Borucki was on a minor league deal/spring invite, white sox told him he wouldn't make opening day roster. White Sox are average this spring, ranked 15th among teams in ERA, but 19th in WHIP. last year, they were 26th in WHIP. Borucki looks a little bit like Bumgarner, lefty who throws from a low three-quarters arm slot. Sliders, sinkers and splitters. I suspect Giants will elevate Erik Miller into Tyler Rogers' old role, and Borucki and Matt Gage become the situational lefties.

Speaking of, Tyler Rogers has a 3.86 ERA in seven innings. 7 strikeouts, no walks, 1.14 WHIP, .286 BAA.

Both the Rogers trade as well as the Doval trade were great deals for SF. I think Tidwell and Rodriguez were great acquisitions.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 03-23-2026

(03-23-2026, 10:40 AM)Giants Wrote:  
(03-22-2026, 09:39 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(03-22-2026, 08:05 AM)Giants Wrote:  Austin Slater released (at his request) from his minor league contract with Detroit.  He is now a free agent.

He was struggling a bit. 10 strikeouts in 30 ABs, but five walks. Line of .267/.389/.467/.856. Great OBP, very good OPS.

Late Night LaMonte Wade was also released by the White Sox.

White Sox also released Ryan Borucki, left handed reliever, 0.00 ERA, six games (one start), six innings pitched, only allowed three runs, struck out EIGHT, WHIP of 0.67. Borucki was on a minor league deal/spring invite, white sox told him he wouldn't make opening day roster. White Sox are average this spring, ranked 15th among teams in ERA, but 19th in WHIP. last year, they were 26th in WHIP. Borucki looks a little bit like Bumgarner, lefty who throws from a low three-quarters arm slot. Sliders, sinkers and splitters. I suspect Giants will elevate Erik Miller into Tyler Rogers' old role, and Borucki and Matt Gage become the situational lefties.

Speaking of, Tyler Rogers has a 3.86 ERA in seven innings. 7 strikeouts, no walks, 1.14 WHIP, .286 BAA.

Both the Rogers trade as well as the Doval trade were great deals for SF.  I think Tidwell and Rodriguez were great acquisitions.

Couldn't agree more.

Just for grins, I assembled the 240 position players likely to start in the field for the 30 MLB teams, and compiled their WAR by their 2025 totals. I did this because the Athletic's Jim Bowden ranked all 30 MLB's starting field lineups for 2026, and ranked the Giants #18. Here's the total of each team's starting eight based upon their 2025 WAR, per FanBase: 

NYY — 31.4
SEA — 25.4
CHC — 25.0
SFG — 24.3
LAD — 23.8
NYM — 23.7
MIL — 23.0
SDP — 22.2
ARI — 22.1
BOS — 20.4
ATL — 20.3
PHI — 20.2
TOR — 18.3
KCR — 17.4
TEX — 17.2
ATH — 15.4
DET — 15.2
CLE — 14.9
BAL — 14.0
MIN — 14.0
HOU — 13.9
PIT — 12.6
CIN — 12.4
MIA — 11.4
TBR — 10.3
STL — 9.7
WSN — 8.1
LAA — 7.3
COL — 4.9
CHW — 4.0

This feels like 2021. 94 wins...


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - triangle2 - 03-24-2026

I’m in for 86 wins.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-24-2026

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Giants dateline='[url=tel:1774287611' Wrote:  1774287611[/url]']
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1774197588' Wrote:  1774197588[/url]']
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Austin Slater released (at his request) from his minor league contract with Detroit.  He is now a free agent.

He was struggling a bit. 10 strikeouts in 30 ABs, but five walks. Line of .267/.389/.467/.856. Great OBP, very good OPS.

Late Night LaMonte Wade was also released by the White Sox.

White Sox also released Ryan Borucki, left handed reliever, 0.00 ERA, six games (one start), six innings pitched, only allowed three runs, struck out EIGHT, WHIP of 0.67. Borucki was on a minor league deal/spring invite, white sox told him he wouldn't make opening day roster. White Sox are average this spring, ranked 15th among teams in ERA, but 19th in WHIP. last year, they were 26th in WHIP. Borucki looks a little bit like Bumgarner, lefty who throws from a low three-quarters arm slot. Sliders, sinkers and splitters. I suspect Giants will elevate Erik Miller into Tyler Rogers' old role, and Borucki and Matt Gage become the situational lefties.

Speaking of, Tyler Rogers has a 3.86 ERA in seven innings. 7 strikeouts, no walks, 1.14 WHIP, .286 BAA.

Both the Rogers trade as well as the Doval trade were great deals for SF.  I think Tidwell and Rodriguez were great acquisitions.

Couldn't agree more.

Just for grins, I assembled the 240 position players likely to start in the field for the 30 MLB teams, and compiled their WAR by their 2025 totals. I did this because the Athletic's Jim Bowden ranked all 30 MLB's starting field lineups for 2026, and ranked the Giants #18. Here's the total of each team's starting eight based upon their 2025 WAR, per FanBase: 

NYY — 31.4
SEA — 25.4
CHC — 25.0
SFG — 24.3
LAD — 23.8
NYM — 23.7
MIL — 23.0
SDP — 22.2
ARI — 22.1
BOS — 20.4
ATL — 20.3
PHI — 20.2
TOR — 18.3
KCR — 17.4
TEX — 17.2
ATH — 15.4
DET — 15.2
CLE — 14.9
BAL — 14.0
MIN — 14.0
HOU — 13.9
PIT — 12.6
CIN — 12.4
MIA — 11.4
TBR — 10.3
STL — 9.7
WSN — 8.1
LAA — 7.3
COL — 4.9
CHW — 4.0

This feels like 2021. 94 wins...

Pitching, especially the bullpen is 
SF ‘s Achilles heel.

I’m afraid that 94 is a fever dream.  However. I would love to award you the gold medal in October.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 03-24-2026

(03-24-2026, 08:56 AM)Giants Wrote:  
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1774291860' Wrote:  1774291860[/url]']
Giants dateline='[url=tel:1774287611' Wrote:  1774287611[/url]']
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1774197588' Wrote:  1774197588[/url]']
Giants dateline='[url=tel:1774191951' Wrote:  1774191951[/url]']
Austin Slater released (at his request) from his minor league contract with Detroit.  He is now a free agent.

He was struggling a bit. 10 strikeouts in 30 ABs, but five walks. Line of .267/.389/.467/.856. Great OBP, very good OPS.

Late Night LaMonte Wade was also released by the White Sox.

White Sox also released Ryan Borucki, left handed reliever, 0.00 ERA, six games (one start), six innings pitched, only allowed three runs, struck out EIGHT, WHIP of 0.67. Borucki was on a minor league deal/spring invite, white sox told him he wouldn't make opening day roster. White Sox are average this spring, ranked 15th among teams in ERA, but 19th in WHIP. last year, they were 26th in WHIP. Borucki looks a little bit like Bumgarner, lefty who throws from a low three-quarters arm slot. Sliders, sinkers and splitters. I suspect Giants will elevate Erik Miller into Tyler Rogers' old role, and Borucki and Matt Gage become the situational lefties.

Speaking of, Tyler Rogers has a 3.86 ERA in seven innings. 7 strikeouts, no walks, 1.14 WHIP, .286 BAA.

Both the Rogers trade as well as the Doval trade were great deals for SF.  I think Tidwell and Rodriguez were great acquisitions.

Couldn't agree more.

Just for grins, I assembled the 240 position players likely to start in the field for the 30 MLB teams, and compiled their WAR by their 2025 totals. I did this because the Athletic's Jim Bowden ranked all 30 MLB's starting field lineups for 2026, and ranked the Giants #18. Here's the total of each team's starting eight based upon their 2025 WAR, per FanBase: 

NYY — 31.4
SEA — 25.4
CHC — 25.0
SFG — 24.3
LAD — 23.8
NYM — 23.7
MIL — 23.0
SDP — 22.2
ARI — 22.1
BOS — 20.4
ATL — 20.3
PHI — 20.2
TOR — 18.3
KCR — 17.4
TEX — 17.2
ATH — 15.4
DET — 15.2
CLE — 14.9
BAL — 14.0
MIN — 14.0
HOU — 13.9
PIT — 12.6
CIN — 12.4
MIA — 11.4
TBR — 10.3
STL — 9.7
WSN — 8.1
LAA — 7.3
COL — 4.9
CHW — 4.0

This feels like 2021. 94 wins...

Pitching, especially the bullpen is 
SF ‘s Achilles heel.

I’m afraid that 94 is a fever dream.  However. I would love to award you the gold medal in October.

I don't disagree. And I ran the same calculation for pitching staffs, and the Giants only finished 23rd, 14th among starting staffs and close to last on relief pitching. The good news is that if there are upside surprises, they're more likely to come from relief pitching than anywhere else.

I'm going to stick with the 94 win guesstimate. This feels like 2021, and 94 wins would have tied them for the 3rd best overall record in 2025 beating the Dodgers by a game. The new manager will work wonders. Fielding will get much better. Lots of pitchers in a contract season. One of the best starting eights in MLB, and who knows about Eldridge?


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - pefloresjr - 03-24-2026

I'm going with 90.  Why the hell not?
Cheers,
Pete F.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-24-2026

Vitello is a real plus.  His interviews to date are a refreshing change from the empty rhetoric of Melvin. With the support system that Posey has built around him (in particular, Bochy and Baker), I think he will be very successful.  I’m looking forward to a much more aggressive running game.

And the fielding should be better with Bader taking charge in the outfield and Washington coaching the IF.  

I think the offensive keys are: 

Adames playing well from the jump. 
Devers playing as well as he is paid.
Eldridge earning a call-up and breaking out at the big league level.
Bailey hitting at a league average for catchers.

And the pitching keys:

Good health - Miller, Houser and Mahle must stay off the IL.
Walker returning to form.
One or two of the young guys must step up - McDonald is my candidate for the organizational pitcher most likely to have a breakout season.  

Obviously, to hit all of these keys is tantamount to hitting the lottery; however, there is no reason to expect there will be more misses than hits.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 03-24-2026

I'm going to add to your list...I think these things need to happen:

1.      Logan Webb has to be a true ace again, not merely good.
2.      Robbie Ray has to be a real No. 2.
3.      The Giants need at least two of Tyler Mahle, Adrian Houser, and Landen Roupp to be solid.
4.      They have to survive the Hayden Birdsong loss without the rotation caving in.
5.      Rafael Devers has to be the middle-of-the-order monster they traded for.
6.      And Devers has to hold up physically while learning first base.
7.      Willy Adames has to repeat the impact, not just the name value.
8.      Matt Chapman has to stay on the field more consistently.
9.      Luis Arraez has to change the shape of the lineup.
10.  But Arraez cannot give it all back with the glove.
11.  Jung Hoo Lee needs to become more than a pleasant everyday player.
12.  Heliot Ramos has to prove 2024 and 2025 was real.
13.  Patrick Bailey has to be at least playable offensively.
14.  Harrison Bader has to make center field a real strength.
15.  The bottom third of the order cannot be a sinkhole.
16.  At least one young player (Susac, Harper, Encarnacion, Matos) has to beat expectations.
17.  The bullpen has to stabilize faster than people expect.
18.  Ryan Walker has to look like a reliable closer again.
19.  They need to convert their underlying quality into actual wins.
20.  They need to be better on the road and slightly better against good teams.
21.  The new-manager transition has to work immediately.
22.  Buster Posey’s “pitching and defense” vision actually has to show up on the field.
23.  They have to win the games they’re supposed to win.
24.  They need one more in-season move to matter.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-25-2026

94 wins will be easily reached if SF hits only half of the your list.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-25-2026

Your 2026 San Francisco Giants…

Webb
Ray
Houser
Mahle
Roupp
Butto
Brubaker
Borucki
Kilian
Walker
Miller
Winn
Gage
Bailey
Susac
Arraez
Schmitt
Devers
Chapman
Adames
Koss
Encarnacion
Hader
Ramos
Lee
Oliva 

Just what we predicted prior to the beginning of spring training, right?  ;)

Only one player has no MLB experience - Susac.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Leftcoast - 03-25-2026

Any thoughts on Luis Matos not making the cut with the follow-up that he is now "designated for assignment".  That's a steep fall from grace for a farm-system favorite and the former Giants top position prospect.  Perhaps he'll clear waivers but probably not.  

For me: I trust in Posey and this makes it clear Matos is NOT one of his guys.

It's also interesting that hot-hitting Bryce Eldridge didn't make the cut but the decision is not a surprise. Give the young prospect more game time rather than pinch hitting and sitting behind Rafael Devers.  Probably will be brought up later in the year.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - skip75 - 03-25-2026

Using the most sophisticated analytics available (2023-79 wins, 2024-80 wins, 2025-81 wins), my prediction is (drumroll .........): 2026-82 wins.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - JJJ - 03-25-2026

(03-22-2026, 08:05 AM)Giants Wrote:  Austin Slater released (at his request) from his minor league contract with Detroit.  He is now a free agent.

Slater was signed by the Marlins because Kyle Stowers (among others) was recently hurt. Didn’t know he was a Florida native.

Slater in Miami


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 03-26-2026

Here are the final predictions for this season:

Mick-  94
Giants-  85
BobK-  87
Leftcoast-  85
Phogge-  92
triangle2-  86
pefloresjr-  90
skip-  82
cardcrimson - 83
PAsportsfan - 78
Papa John - 81
old spanish trail - 92

Let’s revisit the numbers at the all-star break…


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Treebound - 03-26-2026

After a rough opening night watching these Giants from the lower box last night, I'll add my prediction of 86 games.  Logan was blown up for 5 in the second inning and our bats were just not there.  Painful start despite a beautiful night at PacBell/Oracle with the entire country watching.  Money talks in baseball...just ask the Dodgers and the Yankees.


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - cardcrimson - 03-26-2026

(03-26-2026, 01:08 AM)Giants Wrote:  Here are the final predictions for this season:

Mick-  94
Giants-  85
BobK-  87
Leftcoast-  85
Phogge-  92
triangle2-  86
pefloresjr-  90
skip-  82

Let’s revisit the numbers at the all-star break…
Hopefully not too late to play. Knee replacement surgery two days ago, and struggling a bit. Didn't even realize the season started. I'll go with 83, after last season's disappointment. . . .


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - PAsportsfan - 03-26-2026

78 wins


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Leftcoast - 03-26-2026

(03-26-2026, 11:48 AM)PAsportsfan Wrote:  78 wins

Ouch!  That opening game loss must have hurt ....


RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Papa John - 03-26-2026

Put me down for 81