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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - biketoc - 02-29-2024

That was a fun game to watch.  Cam was awesome. Von Oelhoffen (sp) was really clutch.
That was an awful game to watch.  The refs were awful again.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - OCcardinal - 02-29-2024

(02-29-2024, 09:52 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  A W is a W. Brink with 23 rebounds. Amazing.

A career high.  Just missed Chiney Ogwumike's record of 24, but ties Nneka Ogwumike's career best of 23.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - martyup - 02-29-2024

The flop is never called, so it becomes a strategy against Brink.  They mug her all game, but she gets whistled for 4 offensive fouls.  Bacon can retire with the Pac-12.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - crackpot - 02-29-2024

(02-29-2024, 09:47 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  I hope the zebras are happy. They got Brink out of the game. I sure hope the ACC has better referees.

Sadly, we'll probably see the same stooges at least at home games.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - Spiny_Norman - 02-29-2024

Congratulations to Stanford, the regular season champs and top seed in the conference tournament!! We saw tonight the impact of Cameron Brink's will to win. I think she just put the team on her back and carried them as hard and as far as she could. TVO did the same for OSU. It was fantastic to watch them perform in the 4th quarter. Brink scores. TVO answers. And then vice versa. Great stuff for the fans to watch all stars playing at an all star level.

They might get to face each other again next weekend. The broadcast posted the P12 bracket as it will be unless there is a major upset on Saturday. Stanford vs. WSU/Cal winner in the quarters. Oregon State and Colorado also on Stanford's side of the bracket. Utah, USC and UCLA on the other side.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 -- Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - Mudhead - 02-29-2024

Brooke DM did have trouble on defense. But her offense may have won the game for us. Not her scoring but her consistent ability to get offensive rebounds and loose balls.  Talanas clutch free throws at the end would not have occurred unles Demeitre corrals the long bound and get fouled for the fourth OSU foul. That is not to take anything from Talana’s absolutely clutch performance at the free throw line. According to the announcers, that performance came from a 60% free throw shooter.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - 81alum - 02-29-2024

1) Plenty of defects that Tara will be pointing out on film study tommorrow morning.  But we were playing in the most hostile gym imaginable and led wire to wire, despite the issues along the way.  All in all, a gritty win to secure sole possession of the Pac 12 title.

2) Brink had one of if not the best performance of her career.  25 points, shooting better than 50%, a career high 23 rebounds 8 of which were offensive, perfect free throw shooting, and 4 assists.  The one defect--8 turnovers, mostly because those 5 offensive fouls count as turnovers.  But not all of them, if any, were legit.

3) Iriafen came through in the second half after a slow start in the first.  14 points and 4 assists, and leading the team in +/-.

4) Bosgana looked strong in the first half and then disappeared. 

5) Jump didn't make a trey--how many games has it been since that happened?  She did have 4 assists and played all 40 minutes.

6) Lepolo made a trey and two clutch free throws.  She defended TVO most of the game, and while her defense looked pretty good most of the time, TVO was "on" and beginning to do a Juju imitation.  We are lucky we survived her outpouring.

7) Both Ogden and Demetre had sub-par games.  In short, we really were led by our big two and no one else really stepped up to help them with double digit significance.  If they had, the game would not have come down to the wire.  This is a little concerning.

8) We made only 4 treys and OSU made 8.  That accounts for a lot.  We led in 2nd chance points 24 to 9--that reflects our sizable rebounding edge.  We doubled OSU in points in the paint 36-18.  They really miss Beers. 

A win on the road against a highly ranked team is always a good win.  But Rueck has shown us we have things to work on.  The wrinkle this time?  Rueck almost never double teams us, but this time Cam was double and triple teamed, a lot.  He took us a bit by surprise.  Brink had 4 assists but she probably should have had more, since that is the way out of the doubles and triples.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - Hieronymus - 02-29-2024

(02-29-2024, 10:12 PM)81alum Wrote:  1) Plenty of defects that Tara will be pointing out on film study tommorrow morning.  But we were playing in the most hostile gym imaginable and led wire to wire, despite the issues along the way.  All in all, a gritty win to secure sole possession of the Pac 12 title.

2) Brink had one of if not the best performance of her career.  25 points, shooting better than 50%, a career high 23 rebounds 8 of which were offensive, perfect free throw shooting, and 4 assists.  The one defect--8 turnovers, mostly because those 5 offensive fouls count as turnovers.  But not all of them, if any, were legit.

3) Iriafen came through in the second half after a slow start in the first.  14 points and 4 assists, and leading the team in +/-.

4) Bosgana looked strong in the first half and then disappeared. 

5) Jump didn't make a trey--how many games has it been since that happened?  She did have 4 assists and played all 40 minutes.

6) Lepolo made a trey and two clutch free throws.  She defended TVO most of the game, and while her defense looked pretty good most of the time, TVO was "on" and beginning to do a Juju imitation.  We are lucky we survived her outpouring.

7) Both Ogden and Demetre had sub-par games.  In short, we really were led by our big two and no one else eally stepped up to help them with double digit significance.  If they had, the game would not have come down to the wire.  This is a little concerning.

8) We made only 4 treys and OSU made 8.  That accounts for a lot.  We led in 2nd chance points 24 to 9--that reflects our sizable rebounding edge.  We doubled OSU in points in the paint 36-18.  They really miss Beers. 

A win on the road against a highly ranked team is always a good win.  But Rueck has shown us we have things to work on.  The wrinkle this time?  Rueck almost never double teams us, but this time Cam was double and triple teamed, a lot.  He took us a bit by surprise.  Brink had 4 assists but she probably should have had more, since that is the way out of the doubles and triples.

Sadly it was only 4 offensive fouls on Brink. The last foul was that trip on defense. Which greatly annoys me. If I have to watch stupidity, make it at least be epic, memorable stupidity. Instead I had to witness run-of-the-mill, boring officiating stupidity.

More seriously, The double/triple teaming was interesting. And the pace really picked up as the game went on. I assume based on a combination of nobody hitting outside shots for us, Cam being dominant, and the refs repeatedly falling for the flops.

And yeah if anybody else steps up today it’s an easy win. Instead Kiki and Cam had to carry almost the entire load themselves today. That won’t work most days against good teams.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 -- Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - amytmueller - 02-29-2024

Nice win for the Card, Brink put us on her back.  Good to see Talana back, she had a solid game, especially those free throws.

I'm wondering why Harriel only played 5 mins, after her last 'breakout' game, per Tara.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - TonyLima - 02-29-2024

(02-29-2024, 09:53 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:  

(02-29-2024, 09:52 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  A W is a W. Brink with 23 rebounds. Amazing.

Yeah on the road with loaded officiating the last quarter plus and an off shooting night.

On the upside, we have Cameron Brink.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 -- Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - TheWildJacko - 02-29-2024

Not to mention Clardy’s magnificent steal and layup.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 -- Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - WBB fan - 02-29-2024

After the game, in the crowd as we were leaving, several OSU fans talked to us, were very complimentary about Cam, Tara, and Stanford generally. Really classy fans, including during the game. We told them that we'd be rooting for OSU except in any game against Stanford.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 -- Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - BillBradley - 03-01-2024

Great win for the ladies. Road wins are not easy, especially against a Top-10-ish team, even without Beers. Congrats to the P12 Champs!

Still feeling like we aren't a Final Four quality team if Hannah, Talana, Brooke, etc. aren't scoring. Our offense becomes too predictable.  Given that our size was a major advantage, the gameplan was to bang inside (rightly so). But the other players still have to be aggressive on offense and hit shots when it's their time. Just didn't happen tonight. 

On the other hand, this IS a Final Four team if we can get consistent play from the supporting cast. Not just Jump, Lepolo, Demetre, but also Ogden, Harriel, Agara...it's that time of the year where everyone has to bring their A game! Tonight, that group was 11-34 from the field. It needs to be more like 16-34. Those 10+ points are the difference between a Final Four run and getting bounced.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - 81alum - 03-01-2024

I agree with some of the posters above--this was a good win, but we need to improve if we are going to go deep in the post season.  For example, if we play Oregon State again in the Pac 12 tournament and they have Beers back, Brink will not get 8 O-boards.   

We need our supporting cast to rise to the occasion, particularly on offense.  That means three point shooters have to hit at least a few more to keep the opposing teams from collapsing all over Brink and Iriafen.  A good defensive scheme can clog the paint and take away Jump--we saw that last year over and over and again last night.  

We must have three point shooting from Bosgana, Lepolo, Demetre, Ogden, Harriel, and/or Agara.  We did pretty well with that last night--those six players were collectively 4/10, but Jump was 0/4 under withering pressure.  On a night when Brink gets triple teamed, we absolutely must make more than 4 treys.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - Mudhead - 03-01-2024

Time for me to pause and celebrate the success of this team.  They were picked third in pre season polls. They won it outright with a game to go.  We are talking about them in terms of a final four slot. There wasn’t much of that in pre season.  In short, they have over performed vs last years underperformance.  Hats of to a gritty hard working Bucnch of young women.

The coaches too, deserve commendation. This season began with the shell shock of two undergraduate excellent players transferring to other schools. It looks to me as if changes  have been made; changes in attitude, recognition that you can’t keep young talent if they don’t have playing time and a refocus on team chemistry.  They successfully integrated three freshmen plus Harrriel into important roles.

I will continue to kibbitz and criticize the coaching staff and agonize over player performance. I suspect I will exercise my prerogative as a fan, a season ticket holder and a former 5th grade YMCA team coach to criticize and complain.  But right now, a hats off and thank you to this team and these coaches is due.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - martyup - 03-01-2024

Last night Cameron Brink had her personal best 23 rebounds and also logged the most minutes she's ever played at 38, despite fouling out with under 2 minutes to play.

I like the fact that TDawg let her play with 3 and 4 fouls, which gives Iriafen confidence that her coach believes in her to carry the load in the post if Cam fouls out.  We needed every one of those 38 minutes to pull out this win.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - StanFanFam13 - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 08:25 AM)Mudhead Wrote:  Time for me to pause and celebrate the success of this team.  They were picked third in pre season polls. They won it outright with a game to go.  We are talking about them in terms of a final four slot. There wasn’t much of that in pre season.  In short, they have over performed vs last years underperformance.  Hats of to a gritty hard working Bucnch of young women.

The coaches too, deserve commendation. This season began with the shell shock of two undergraduate excellent players transferring to other schools. It looks to me as if changes  have been made; changes in attitude, recognition that you can’t keep young talent if they don’t have playing time and a refocus on team chemistry.  They successfully integrated three freshmen plus Harrriel into important roles.

I will continue to kibbitz and criticize the coaching staff and agonize over player performance. I suspect I will exercise my prerogative as a fan, a season ticket holder and a former 5th grade YMCA team coach to criticize and complain.  But right now, a hats off and thank you to this team and these coaches is due.

Hear, hear!!

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - MV72018 - 03-01-2024

(02-29-2024, 10:26 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:  

(02-29-2024, 10:12 PM)81alum Wrote:  1) Plenty of defects that Tara will be pointing out on film study tommorrow morning.  But we were playing in the most hostile gym imaginable and led wire to wire, despite the issues along the way.  All in all, a gritty win to secure sole possession of the Pac 12 title.

2) Brink had one of if not the best performance of her career.  25 points, shooting better than 50%, a career high 23 rebounds 8 of which were offensive, perfect free throw shooting, and 4 assists.  The one defect--8 turnovers, mostly because those 5 offensive fouls count as turnovers.  But not all of them, if any, were legit.

3) Iriafen came through in the second half after a slow start in the first.  14 points and 4 assists, and leading the team in +/-.

4) Bosgana looked strong in the first half and then disappeared. 

5) Jump didn't make a trey--how many games has it been since that happened?  She did have 4 assists and played all 40 minutes.

6) Lepolo made a trey and two clutch free throws.  She defended TVO most of the game, and while her defense looked pretty good most of the time, TVO was "on" and beginning to do a Juju imitation.  We are lucky we survived her outpouring.

7) Both Ogden and Demetre had sub-par games.  In short, we really were led by our big two and no one else eally stepped up to help them with double digit significance.  If they had, the game would not have come down to the wire.  This is a little concerning.

8) We made only 4 treys and OSU made 8.  That accounts for a lot.  We led in 2nd chance points 24 to 9--that reflects our sizable rebounding edge.  We doubled OSU in points in the paint 36-18.  They really miss Beers. 

A win on the road against a highly ranked team is always a good win.  But Rueck has shown us we have things to work on.  The wrinkle this time?  Rueck almost never double teams us, but this time Cam was double and triple teamed, a lot.  He took us a bit by surprise.  Brink had 4 assists but she probably should have had more, since that is the way out of the doubles and triples.

Sadly it was only 4 offensive fouls on Brink. The last foul was that trip on defense. Which greatly annoys me. If I have to watch stupidity, make it at least be epic, memorable stupidity. Instead I had to witness run-of-the-mill, boring officiating stupidity.

More seriously, The double/triple teaming was interesting. And the pace really picked up as the game went on. I assume based on a combination of nobody hitting outside shots for us, Cam being dominant, and the refs repeatedly falling for the flops.

And yeah if anybody else steps up today it’s an easy win. Instead Kiki and Cam had to carry almost the entire load themselves today. That won’t work most days against good teams.

Your final three sentences are spot on.

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RE: WBB: Stanford at Oregon State Thursday 7pm - martyup - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 10:28 AM)MV72018 Wrote:  

(02-29-2024, 10:26 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:  

(02-29-2024, 10:12 PM)81alum Wrote:  1) Plenty of defects that Tara will be pointing out on film study tommorrow morning.  But we were playing in the most hostile gym imaginable and led wire to wire, despite the issues along the way.  All in all, a gritty win to secure sole possession of the Pac 12 title.

2) Brink had one of if not the best performance of her career.  25 points, shooting better than 50%, a career high 23 rebounds 8 of which were offensive, perfect free throw shooting, and 4 assists.  The one defect--8 turnovers, mostly because those 5 offensive fouls count as turnovers.  But not all of them, if any, were legit.

3) Iriafen came through in the second half after a slow start in the first.  14 points and 4 assists, and leading the team in +/-.

4) Bosgana looked strong in the first half and then disappeared. 

5) Jump didn't make a trey--how many games has it been since that happened?  She did have 4 assists and played all 40 minutes.

6) Lepolo made a trey and two clutch free throws.  She defended TVO most of the game, and while her defense looked pretty good most of the time, TVO was "on" and beginning to do a Juju imitation.  We are lucky we survived her outpouring.

7) Both Ogden and Demetre had sub-par games.  In short, we really were led by our big two and no one else eally stepped up to help them with double digit significance.  If they had, the game would not have come down to the wire.  This is a little concerning.

8) We made only 4 treys and OSU made 8.  That accounts for a lot.  We led in 2nd chance points 24 to 9--that reflects our sizable rebounding edge.  We doubled OSU in points in the paint 36-18.  They really miss Beers. 

A win on the road against a highly ranked team is always a good win.  But Rueck has shown us we have things to work on.  The wrinkle this time?  Rueck almost never double teams us, but this time Cam was double and triple teamed, a lot.  He took us a bit by surprise.  Brink had 4 assists but she probably should have had more, since that is the way out of the doubles and triples.

Sadly it was only 4 offensive fouls on Brink. The last foul was that trip on defense. Which greatly annoys me. If I have to watch stupidity, make it at least be epic, memorable stupidity. Instead I had to witness run-of-the-mill, boring officiating stupidity.

More seriously, The double/triple teaming was interesting. And the pace really picked up as the game went on. I assume based on a combination of nobody hitting outside shots for us, Cam being dominant, and the refs repeatedly falling for the flops.

And yeah if anybody else steps up today it’s an easy win. Instead Kiki and Cam had to carry almost the entire load themselves today. That won’t work most days against good teams.

Your final three sentences are spot on.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - BobK - 03-01-2024

A found rebound. Stat update it’s now 24 for Cam

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