WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!)

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RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - Hieronymus - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 08:25 AM)Mudhead Wrote: Time for me to pause and celebrate the success of this team. They were picked third in pre season polls. They won it outright with a game to go. We are talking about them in terms of a final four slot. There wasn’t much of that in pre season. In short, they have over performed vs last years underperformance. Hats of to a gritty hard working Bucnch of young women.

The coaches too, deserve commendation. This season began with the shell shock of two undergraduate excellent players transferring to other schools. It looks to me as if changes have been made; changes in attitude, recognition that you can’t keep young talent if they don’t have playing time and a refocus on team chemistry. They successfully integrated three freshmen plus Harrriel into important roles.

I will continue to kibbitz and criticize the coaching staff and agonize over player performance. I suspect I will exercise my prerogative as a fan, a season ticket holder and a former 5th grade YMCA team coach to criticize and complain. But right now, a hats off and thank you to this team and these coaches is due.

I absolutely agree. Kiki has been much better then I think anyone expected. Jump has improved on defense more than I expected. Lepolo has mostly been just enough better offensively. And most days somebody out of the supporting cast has stepped up though is seems to be a different player every game. Combined with better chemistry, and this team has been significantly better then expected.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - WBB fan - 03-01-2024

I think the better chemistry has had a positive effect on all the rest, better contribution from everyone. It's all interconnected, and the chemistry last year explains a lot re the underperformance vs expectations. In her post game interview last night, Cam implicitly commented re this, talking about the joy of playing together this year

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - MV72018 - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 12:48 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I think the better chemistry has had a positive effect on all the rest, better contribution from everyone. It's all interconnected, and the chemistry last year explains a lot re the underperformance vs expectations. In her post game interview last night, Cam implicitly commented re this, talking about the joy of playing together this year

Two things that impressed me positively last night.

1. the way Brink and Iriakin worked together as a duo down low. It almost seems as if they've been working on how each of them can either get the ball to the other if a better shot is available or position for the rebound if the other misses. I saw a number of excellent passes in heavy traffic.

2. the set with two guards outside, two bigs down low -- forming a rectangle -- and Demetre flashing to the foul line, receiving the 'entry' pass, turning, and hitting a jump shot. This set worked well and she has a smooth jumper. Good to have that play in the quiver.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - 81alum - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 01:34 PM)MV72018 Wrote: 2. the set with two guards outside, two bigs down low -- forming a rectangle -- and Demetre flashing to the foul line, receiving the 'entry' pass, turning, and hitting a jump shot. This set worked well and she has a smooth jumper. Good to have that play in the quiver.

Thanks for pointing this out, MV! That was a very interesting play and it worked well with Demetre's midrange jumper. It almost looked like it was a play from our zone-breaking offense, but OSU wasn't playing zone. But it seemed to work well against the pack-the-paint strategy. Perhaps we will see more of it.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - crackpot - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 12:48 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I think the better chemistry has had a positive effect on all the rest, better contribution from everyone. It's all interconnected, and the chemistry last year explains a lot re the underperformance vs expectations. In her post game interview last night, Cam implicitly commented re this, talking about the joy of playing together this year

Every time I hear them talk about the chemistry of this year's team I am grateful, followed by a shudder when I think back on Haley Jones interviewing Luaren Betts and both of them laughing about how they didn't take the game at UW nor the game against Ole Miss seriously last season.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - TonyLima - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 01:34 PM)MV72018 Wrote:
(03-01-2024, 12:48 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I think the better chemistry has had a positive effect on all the rest, better contribution from everyone. It's all interconnected, and the chemistry last year explains a lot re the underperformance vs expectations. In her post game interview last night, Cam implicitly commented re this, talking about the joy of playing together this year

Two things that impressed me positively last night.

1. the way Brink and Iriakin worked together as a duo down low. It almost seems as if they've been working on how each of them can either get the ball to the other if a better shot is available or position for the rebound if the other misses. I saw a number of excellent passes in heavy traffic.

2. the set with two guards outside, two bigs down low -- forming a rectangle -- and Demetre flashing to the foul line, receiving the 'entry' pass, turning, and hitting a jump shot. This set worked well and she has a smooth jumper. Good to have that play in the quiver.

IIRC Cam and Kiki worked out together last summer.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - Spiny_Norman - 03-01-2024

I am thrilled for the team and their position at the top of the conference. But the final record has definitely been enhanced by the schedule. Stanford only played 6 games vs. the other top 6 teams (USC, UCLA, Utah, Colorado, OSU). In contrast, USC, UCLA, Utah, Colorado and Oregon State played 9 games vs. the other top 6 for them. Those 3 games likely helped to separate Stanford from the pack.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - 81alum - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 03:14 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I am thrilled for the team and their position at the top of the conference. But the final record has definitely been enhanced by the schedule. Stanford only played 6 games vs. the other top 6 teams (USC, UCLA, Utah, Colorado, OSU). In contrast, USC, UCLA, Utah, Colorado and Oregon State played 9 games vs. the other top 6 for them. Those 3 games likely helped to separate Stanford from the pack.

Yes, I've thought a lot about this and wonder what our record would have been had we played USC, UCLA, Colorado, and Utah twice each. My guess is we might have a couple more losses. Which is why winning by 2 games over the nearest competition in league play would be sweet. Of course, those four teams are all happy they only had to play us once, so it works both ways.

We might well get rematches against one or two of those schools in the Pac 12 tournament; for example, perhaps Colorado in the semis and USC in the final, if we make it that far. So the tournament may become a fair test.

Tara initially opposed the conference tournament, thinking that its results were more random than the Pac 10 round robin schedule. And I agreed. But now, with an unbalanced schedule in the league, the tournament may be more meaningful. And we may have to beat teams that have already beaten us once. Fair enough.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - Hieronymus - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 08:25 AM)Mudhead Wrote: Time for me to pause and celebrate the success of this team. They were picked third in pre season polls. They won it outright with a game to go. We are talking about them in terms of a final four slot. There wasn’t much of that in pre season. In short, they have over performed vs last years underperformance. Hats of to a gritty hard working Bucnch of young women.

The coaches too, deserve commendation. This season began with the shell shock of two undergraduate excellent players transferring to other schools. It looks to me as if changes have been made; changes in attitude, recognition that you can’t keep young talent if they don’t have playing time and a refocus on team chemistry. They successfully integrated three freshmen plus Harrriel into important roles.

I will continue to kibbitz and criticize the coaching staff and agonize over player performance. I suspect I will exercise my prerogative as a fan, a season ticket holder and a former 5th grade YMCA team coach to criticize and complain. But right now, a hats off and thank you to this team and these coaches is due.

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - CompSci87 - 03-02-2024

(03-01-2024, 12:29 PM)BobK Wrote: A found rebound. Stat update it’s now 24 for Cam

Does that tie her with Chiney for the team record?

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - WBB fan - 03-02-2024

(03-02-2024, 09:16 AM)CompSci87 Wrote:
(03-01-2024, 12:29 PM)BobK Wrote: A found rebound. Stat update it’s now 24 for Cam

Does that tie her with Chiney for the team record?

Yes

RE: WBB: Stanford 67 Oregon State 63 (We are the Champs!) - TonyLima - 03-02-2024

(03-02-2024, 09:30 AM)WBB fan Wrote:
(03-02-2024, 09:16 AM)CompSci87 Wrote:
(03-01-2024, 12:29 PM)BobK Wrote: A found rebound. Stat update it’s now 24 for Cam

Does that tie her with Chiney for the team record?

Yes

Wow. We are witnessing a generational talent. Two, actually.