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RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 08-25-2022
(08-25-2022, 07:29 AM)lex24 Wrote: Luis Matos is having a very good month. .297. With OPA around .880. 4 HRs. Good to see him finish strong.
Jim Bowden had his top 50 prospect list. Harrison 23, Luciano 46. Most disappointing thing to me is Bowden indicated Luciano has below average speed and range. Power no 1 attribute.
Bowden is a poor source to cite. I stopped reading his blather sometime ago because his observations are consistently wrong.
Keith Law is the best source to read regarding prospects. His analysis of Joey Bart prior to the draft in which Bart was selected has proven to be spot on.
As for Luciano, I have no doubt that he is going to be a star IF he can remain healthy. He is on track for a 2024 debut. Harrison has been touted by some as the best LH starter in the minors. I expect him to reach the big leagues at some point next season.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-25-2022
Harrison was off in his last start and still struck out 7 in 6 innings.
There are three or four guys in the system that have great strikeout to walk ratios. There are plenty of arms so perhaps five or six among the sixty or so arms in the system have what it takes.
Don’t know about Matos but Poimares has raised his average about 60 points over the last six weeks. He, Matos, Toribio, McCray, Roby all have high strikeout rates. Kapler has been raving about Isan Diaz at Sacramento. Has a lower K rate than most of the other legitimate prospects. He has spent time on the taxi squad but hasn’t been promoted yet.
After reading about the new rule I can’t find anything about roster status of the two additions. Not clear if they have to be on the 40 man. So that could leave only Sacto players since Rodriquez is now there. If the Giants think they still have a chance (which is akin to Bobbbbbbb having a chance with Sophia Loren) they probably bring up Gonzalez and a pitcher.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 08-25-2022
(08-25-2022, 12:11 PM)Phogge Wrote: Harrison was off in his last start and still struck out 7 in 6 innings.
There are three or four guys in the system that have great strikeout to walk ratios. There are plenty of arms so perhaps five or six among the sixty or so arms in the system have what it takes.
Don’t know about Matos but Poimares has raised his average about 60 points over the last six weeks. He, Matos, Toribio, McCray, Roby all have high strikeout rates. Kapler has been raving about Isan Diaz at Sacramento. Has a lower K rate than most of the other legitimate prospects. He has spent time on the taxi squad but hasn’t been promoted yet.
After reading about the new rule I can’t find anything about roster status of the two additions. Not clear if they have to be on the 40 man. So that could leave only Sacto players since Rodriquez is now there. If the Giants think they still have a chance (which is akin to Bobbbbbbb having a chance with Sophia Loren) they probably bring up Gonzalez and a pitcher.
The two additions must be on the 40 man roster. I agree with you re: Gonzalez and a hurler.
Brown from Eugene to Richmond
McCray from San Jose to Eugene
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-25-2022
(08-25-2022, 12:11 PM)Phogge Wrote: Harrison was off in his last start and still struck out 7 in 6 innings.
There are three or four guys in the system that have great strikeout to walk ratios. There are plenty of arms so perhaps five or six among the sixty or so arms in the system have what it takes.
Don’t know about Matos but Poimares has raised his average about 60 points over the last six weeks. He, Matos, Toribio, McCray, Roby all have high strikeout rates. Kapler has been raving about Isan Diaz at Sacramento. Has a lower K rate than most of the other legitimate prospects. He has spent time on the taxi squad but hasn’t been promoted yet.
After reading about the new rule I can’t find anything about roster status of the two additions. Not clear if they have to be on the 40 man. So that could leave only Sacto players since Rodriquez is now there. If the Giants think they still have a chance (which is akin to Bobbbbbbb having a chance with Sophia Loren) they probably bring up Gonzalez and a pitcher.
Diaz pulled an oblique. I think he’d have been called up otherwise. I think the Sept call up rule stinks. I get that teams were abusing the old system by calling up way too many. But something like 5 sounds right to me. And all teams should be allowed to call up one guy from AAA with 8 or more years of minor league experience. Call it the Bull Durham rule. I always liked it when a minor league lifer got that Sept call up so he’d have at least a moment in the bigs.
John Feinstein wrote a terrific book on life in AAA - “Where No One Knows Your Name.” I seldom read sports books. But that’s a good read.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-25-2022
Lex... best sports book is ”Veeck as in Wreck.” Worth the read.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - BobK - 08-26-2022
Top Giants prospects
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/26/sf-giants-minor-league-report-five-under-the-radar-reasons-for-optimism
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-27-2022
(08-26-2022, 07:23 PM)BobK Wrote: Top Giants prospects
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/26/sf-giants-minor-league-report-five-under-the-radar-reasons-for-optimism
Thanks for posting. Maybe someday Brown and McCray will end the organizational OF drought. And bring SPEED. Man it would be nice to see some guys that can run.
It’s too bad they can only call up 2. They could sure use an infusion of energy.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Goose - 08-27-2022
(08-27-2022, 09:38 AM)lex24 Wrote: It’s too bad they can only call up 2. They could sure use an infusion of energy.I think they could use an infusion of just about anything. Right now, there seems to be no "there there". Just the opposite of last year. If this is "regression to the mean" I certainly don't enjoy it.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-27-2022
Diaz out for the year.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-27-2022
Interesting article in The Athletic. Rod Carew at a Hall of Fame dinner lit into Rob Manfred. His general theme - analytics are ruining baseball. Which Manfred essentially agrees with but says you can’t do anything about it. Which is somewhat true.
Funny - at the time I was watching Tommy La Stella hit. Runner on first and they put on the shift against him. it. Its Tommy La Stella. He doesn’t have much power. Although he’s tried to add to his power so he’s swinging more with a “launch angle”. But he has most of the left side available. And what does he do – of course he’s swigging from the heels. He ended up walking. But I just kind of shook my head. I thought about how somebody like Rod Carew – a true artist with the bat - thinks looking at that.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-27-2022
Camilo Doval, brain dead pitcher.
Dom Leone, looking ahead to October and release.
Gonzalez... probably not a pinch runner in his future.
All in all LOL.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - BobK - 08-28-2022
Farham thinks Villar will be up soon and Diaz later
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-28-2022
I think that Gonzalez must have been absent the day that baserunning was taught in his youth baseball.
A majority of the active 26 are placeholders. The brass is terrified of a roster rebuild. But that may be what is necessary.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 08:30 AM)Phogge Wrote: I think that Gonzalez must have been absent the day that baserunning was taught in his youth baseball.
A majority of the active 26 are placeholders. The brass is terrified of a roster rebuild. But that may be what is necessary.
Yaz is 4-44. That’s Felipe Alou territory. Wade 0-21. Gonzo has been in a long tail spin. Team has no energy.
There will be a lot of turnover.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 08-28-2022
Lex, the brass won’t breathe the word “Turnover” nor the word “Rebuild.” However those are the exact words that Shea or Slusser would use in describing the actions.
Ergo, they won’t do it.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 08-28-2022
If we had visuals here, you would now see a duck lower into the screen with a placard reading “transition”. That is our word for the day.
The Giants have put all their chips on the farm system. Either it produces by ‘24 or the team is in deep water. In the meantime, they are in a “transition” mode from the glory years to the new era.
Sign a big name in the upcoming off-season to distract the fan base for a year and hope for the best after that.
That is what I am seeing from the team’s leadership…….
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 09:47 AM)Giants Wrote: If we had visuals here, you would now see a duck lower into the screen with a placard reading “transition”. That is our word for the day.
The Giants have put all their chips on the farm system. Either it produces by ‘24 or the team is in deep water. In the meantime, they are in a “transition” mode from the glory years to the new era.
Sign a big name in the upcoming off-season to distract the fan base for a year and hope for the best after that.
That is what I am seeing from the team’s leadership…….
Agree. Although not sure they will sign a big name. I could see them picking up a couple of fringe pieces, dumping and getting their payroll even lower because they know damn well they’re gonna have trouble at the gate and that way they can protect their bottom line a bit.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - cardcrimson - 08-28-2022
I'm sure I'm missing someone, aside from the Barrys, what big name, long term signing have the Giants made in the last 20 years?
RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 05:47 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: I'm sure I'm missing someone, aside from the Barrys, what big name, long term signing have the Giants made in the last 20 years?
Johnny Cueto.
RE: 2022 Giants thread - cardcrimson - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:56 PM)lex24 Wrote:Thanks, anybody else? Giants don't seem to be known for making many splashy signings, why expect one now?(08-28-2022, 05:47 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: I'm sure I'm missing someone, aside from the Barrys, what big name, long term signing have the Giants made in the last 20 years?
Johnny Cueto.