David Shaw ranked #3 -
Maple Leaf - 10-21-2022
Ranking college football’s 12 smartest coaching hires of the past dozen years - The Athletic
Shaw is ranked #3.
Fickell #1 currently at Cincinnati.
Frankling #2 for when he was the HC at Vandy.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
Leftcoast - 10-21-2022
Now that’s just throwing red meat!
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
gocard14 - 10-21-2022
Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable.
Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
Leftcoast - 10-21-2022
Agree GC14.
The question is whether the guy in charge for the historic highs is also the right guy to lead the re-build. It often doesn’t work that way. Now if we could only have that discussion without the soul destroying (and somehow also boring?) rants blotting out the fun of every Cardboard thread including a win in SOUTH BEND!
Oh, the mood swing joys of the Cardboard.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
Spiny_Norman - 10-21-2022
Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.
Here is the story from that fateful day -
https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/stanford-hires-assistant-david-shaw-as-head-coach/
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
gailtate - 10-21-2022
(10-21-2022, 09:47 AM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.
Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/stanford-hires-assistant-david-shaw-as-head-coach/
Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
Maple Leaf - 10-21-2022
(10-21-2022, 09:07 AM)gocard14 Wrote: Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable.
Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.
The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers. Coaches of possible interest are:
Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
Harbaugh/Michigan
Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
Chryst/Wisconsin
Ferentz/Iowa
Fitzgerald/Northwestern
Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go. It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.
College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
PAsportsfan - 10-21-2022
(10-21-2022, 11:24 AM)gailtate Wrote: (10-21-2022, 09:47 AM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.
Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/stanford-hires-assistant-david-shaw-as-head-coach/
Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.
Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
gailtate - 10-21-2022
(10-21-2022, 12:35 PM)PAsportsfan Wrote: (10-21-2022, 11:24 AM)gailtate Wrote: (10-21-2022, 09:47 AM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.
Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/stanford-hires-assistant-david-shaw-as-head-coach/
Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.
Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?
Can't comment before confirmation.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
TrumpCard - 10-21-2022
This happened more than a decade ago. Not too many secrets kept that long and later come out.
RE: David Shaw ranked #3 -
winflop - 10-21-2022
(10-21-2022, 11:30 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote: (10-21-2022, 09:07 AM)gocard14 Wrote: Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable.
Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.
The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers. Coaches of possible interest are:
Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
Harbaugh/Michigan
Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
Chryst/Wisconsin
Ferentz/Iowa
Fitzgerald/Northwestern
Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go. It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.
College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic
Should be noted that one of these Tier 2 guys has already been fired this season (Chryst)