[Maple Leaf]

Ranking college football’s 12 smartest coaching hires of the past dozen years - The Athletic

Shaw is ranked #3.

Fickell #1 currently at Cincinnati.
Frankling #2 for when he was the HC at Vandy.

[Maple Leaf]

Ranking college football’s 12 smartest coaching hires of the past dozen years - The Athletic

Shaw is ranked #3.

Fickell #1 currently at Cincinnati.
Frankling #2 for when he was the HC at Vandy.

[Leftcoast]

Now that’s just throwing red meat!

[Leftcoast]

Now that’s just throwing red meat!

[gocard14]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

[gocard14]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

[Leftcoast]

Agree GC14.

The question is whether the guy in charge for the historic highs is also the right guy to lead the re-build. It often doesn’t work that way. Now if we could only have that discussion without the soul destroying (and somehow also boring?) rants blotting out the fun of every Cardboard thread including a win in SOUTH BEND!  

Oh, the mood swing joys of the Cardboard.

[Leftcoast]

Agree GC14.

The question is whether the guy in charge for the historic highs is also the right guy to lead the re-build. It often doesn’t work that way. Now if we could only have that discussion without the soul destroying (and somehow also boring?) rants blotting out the fun of every Cardboard thread including a win in SOUTH BEND!  

Oh, the mood swing joys of the Cardboard.

[Spiny_Norman]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

[Spiny_Norman]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

[gailtate]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

[gailtate]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

[Maple Leaf]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers.  Coaches of possible interest are:

Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
   Harbaugh/Michigan
   Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
   Chryst/Wisconsin
   Ferentz/Iowa
   Fitzgerald/Northwestern
   Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go.  It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.

College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic

[Maple Leaf]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers.  Coaches of possible interest are:

Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
   Harbaugh/Michigan
   Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
   Chryst/Wisconsin
   Ferentz/Iowa
   Fitzgerald/Northwestern
   Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go.  It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.

College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic

[PAsportsfan]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?

[PAsportsfan]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?

[gailtate]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?

Can't comment before confirmation.

[gailtate]

Credit to the person who made the decision - Bob Bowlsby. He said that Shaw was "exactly the right person at the right time." Bowlsby was right.

Here is the story from that fateful day - https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/01/13/s...ead-coach/

Rumor re Bowlsby, Shaw and Harbaugh (during JH's discussions with the 49ers) that, if confirmed, would be of great interest to this board. Time will tell.

Are you referring to which coaches Harballs wanted to take with him to the 49ers?

Can't comment before confirmation.

[TrumpCard]

This happened more than a decade ago. Not too many secrets kept that long and later come out.

[TrumpCard]

This happened more than a decade ago. Not too many secrets kept that long and later come out.

[winflop]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers.  Coaches of possible interest are:

Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
   Harbaugh/Michigan
   Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
   Chryst/Wisconsin
   Ferentz/Iowa
   Fitzgerald/Northwestern
   Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go.  It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.

College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic

Should be noted that one of these Tier 2 guys has already been fired this season (Chryst)

[winflop]

Love or hate Shaw, it’s hard to argue he was the wrong hire. He has led us to more success then the next 2 or 3 head coaches combined. Yes he built upon what Harbaugh started. But that was far from inevitable. 

Now whether to keep him now is an entirely different matter. I’d give him the ultimatum of cleaning house with the staff and taking more of a program manager role or moving on, though in practice I think he gets one more year.

The Athletic has grouped college coaches into Tiers.  Coaches of possible interest are:

Tier 1A has only one coach listed which is Saben
Tier 1B:
   Harbaugh/Michigan
   Whittingham/Utah
Tier 2:
   Chryst/Wisconsin
   Ferentz/Iowa
   Fitzgerald/Northwestern
   Shaw/Stanford
The four coaches in Tier 2 are mentioned in the same paragraph as having created a comfort zone against being fired due to their earlier successes and the fact that they are alumni of their respective schools with the exception of Ferentz, though the article does mention that since Chryst was fired there may be a greater willingness to let any of these coaches go.  It is mentioned that Stanford in underperforming based upon the talent they have had on their roster during the last few years.

College Football Coaching Tiers revisited: Who’s rising, falling at midseason? - The Athletic

Should be noted that one of these Tier 2 guys has already been fired this season (Chryst)