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WBB:Bracketology - mbdude - 03-04-2023

NCAA Women's Bracketology - 2023 women's college basketball projections (espn.com)
Stanford retains no.1 seed after loss per Creme

RE: WBB:Bracketology - 81alum - 03-04-2023

I am surprised, but Utah also losing certainly helped us.  Charlie Creme has often been too pro-Stanford in the past, so I will believe this when I see it.  It would help if as many projected 2 seeds lose as possible. 

Other than Utah, all three projected 2s play today.

Iowa plays Maryland today, I think we hope for Maryland to beat down Iowa.  If Iowa wins, their resume for a 1 seed goes up. 

Similarly, hope for Tennessee to beat LSU today, to keep LSU from threatening to move up.

Hopefully Duke beats Virginia Tech.

I imagine Iowa has the best shot at grabbing the 1 seed from us--or maybe LSU.  In any case, we should know a lot more after today. 

Not that my heart is in watching other games and cheering for the right losses.  None of it matters if we do not get our own house in order.  But maybe our team can get a bit of a confidence booster if they don't get knocked down too far.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Card10Fan - 03-04-2023

I think Creme is wrong and we will end up a #2 seed. Utah a #2 as well. And probably deservingly so. I 'm guessing some combo of Maryland, Iowa, or  LSU ends up up taking our #1 spot.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Maple Leaf - 03-04-2023

Please correct me if I am wrong on the seedings.  The first four seeds in each region play their first round games at home.  Are the second round games played in Greenville and Seattle?

RE: WBB:Bracketology - WBB fan - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 11:39 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Please correct me if I am wrong on the seedings.  The first four seeds in each region play their first round games at home.  Are the second round games played in Greenville and Seattle?
2bd round game also played at home. Seattle and Greenville are regionals, I e., The sweet sixteen and elite eight games

RE: WBB:Bracketology - skip75 - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 11:39 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Please correct me if I am wrong on the seedings.  The first four seeds in each region play their first round games at home.  Are the second round games played in Greenville and Seattle?
First two rounds are at the home courts of the 1-4 seeds - half on Fri & Sun March 17 & 19 and half on Sat & Mon March 18 & 20.  Sweet 16 and Elite 8 are the following weekend in Greenville and Seattle.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Maple Leaf - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 11:49 AM)skip75 Wrote:  
(03-04-2023, 11:39 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:  Please correct me if I am wrong on the seedings.  The first four seeds in each region play their first round games at home.  Are the second round games played in Greenville and Seattle?
First two rounds are at the home courts of the 1-4 seeds - half on Fri & Sun March 17 & 19 and half on Sat & Mon March 18 & 20.  Sweet 16 and Elite 8 are the following weekend in Greenville and Seattle.

Thank you sir, very much appreciated

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Card10Fan - 03-04-2023

Fun fact: In 2022 years, we have lost in the Pac12 tournament SIX  times. In those years, only one Stanford team ended up reaching the Final 4 (2014). 

I don't think it's likely we make a deep run this year. At this point; our team is what it is. We've had 33 games to figure it out so why would things suddenly change overnight. 

Let's just enjoy what's left of this season and support our team.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - CTcard - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 12:14 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:  I don't think it's likely we make a deep run this year. At this point; our team is what it is. We've had 33 games to figure it out so why would things suddenly change overnight. 

I am not quite sure what you consider a deep run, but any team that is either a one seed, or is in serious consideration for a one seed, has at least a reasonable chance of making the final four. 

Outside of South Carolina and perhaps Indiana, there are a bunch of teams that can beat each other or lose to each other on any given day depending on if shots are dropping, how the ball bounces, and the calls made. 33 games show that Stanford is in that mix. There's enough teams in that group that it looks like less than 50% Stanford would end up in the final four, but it's not 5% either.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - TheFarm07 - 03-04-2023

IMHO, I think we are more vulnerable to a Sweet 16 upset this season that we have been in the last couple years. I can definitely see a grinding, hungry, maybe mid-major program seeing a uncertain Stanford team as a tremendous opportunity to pick up a big win and doing what UCLA did us last night.

But I can also see the team giving us a string of closer than comfortable wins en route to a third consecutive Final Four trip as well. Let's face it, if we are going to make a deep postseason run, it will be our defense that will carry us through. Our offense is not scaring anyone at this point. We'll have to prepare for closer than usual victories, potentially even in the first couple rounds and then have a lot of antacids ready starting in the second weekend.

A lot of the other potential #1 or #2 seeds that we could play in the Elite 8 could knock us out -- besides South Carolina, which is obvious and I don't think we would be matched in the same quarter of the bracket as they would -- Indiana, Maryland, UConn, LSU, Iowa and Virginia Tech, I think Indiana, UConn and Iowa would be most formidable for us to face.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - MV72018 - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 06:42 AM)mbdude Wrote:  NCAA Women's Bracketology - 2023 women's college basketball projections (espn.com)
Stanford retains no.1 seed after loss per Creme

That is strange. Stanford and Maryland have each lost 5, whereas LSU has lost 1, Utah 4, and VaTech 4. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stanford with a #2 seed and LSU with a #1 seed when the official brackets are posted. But I can see why Creme may have done what he did: Stanford obviously played SC much tougher than LSU did.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - spike5882 - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 01:29 PM)MV72018 Wrote:  
(03-04-2023, 06:42 AM)mbdude Wrote:  NCAA Women's Bracketology - 2023 women's college basketball projections (espn.com)
Stanford retains no.1 seed after loss per Creme

That is strange. Stanford and Maryland have each lost 5, whereas LSU has lost 1, Utah 4, and VaTech 4. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stanford with a #2 seed and LSU with a #1 seed when the official brackets are posted. But I can see why Creme may have done what he did: Stanford obviously played SC much tougher than LSU did.

LSU also hasn't beaten any good teams.  So, that's where they are lacking.  They haven't lost besides to South Carolina, but they also haven't shown they can beat anybody that great either due to their schedule, which is going to hurt them.  They are one that will be interesting to see in the tournament...bc nobody knows how they will fare when facing better competition.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - BostonCard - 03-04-2023

Ohio State beat Indiana.

This year, it sure looks like it’s South Carolina > massive gap > everyone else.

BC

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Card10Fan - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 01:16 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote:  IMHO, I think we are more vulnerable to a Sweet 16 upset this season that we have been in the last couple years. I can definitely see a grinding, hungry, maybe mid-major program seeing an uncertain Stanford team as a tremendous opportunity to pick up a big win and doing what UCLA did us last night.

Yup. Look at our losses in the past two months. Washington who’s not a projected tourney team. USC projected as a 10 seed. UCLA projected as a 4/5 seed. We could be playing a 10 seed in the second round. It’s not a lock we make it out of the second round. It’s going to be a major challenge IMO to win 2 or even 3 NCAA tourney games let alone more.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - cardfan1996 - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 01:29 PM)MV72018 Wrote:  
(03-04-2023, 06:42 AM)mbdude Wrote:  NCAA Women's Bracketology - 2023 women's college basketball projections (espn.com)
Stanford retains no.1 seed after loss per Creme

That is strange. Stanford and Maryland have each lost 5, whereas LSU has lost 1, Utah 4, and VaTech 4. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stanford with a #2 seed and LSU with a #1 seed when the official brackets are posted. But I can see why Creme may have done what he did: Stanford obviously played SC much tougher than LSU did.

If the committee cared about out of conference strength of schedule, Utah would not have appeared on that one line. Their out of conference schedule was cupcake city with only Oklahoma as a ranked opponent. In-conference, they beat their share of ranked opponents so that must carry some weight.

If Utah’s out of conf is a joke, LSU’s out of conf schedule was the whole circus. I know they didn’t play a tourney team and in conference they only beat Arkansas, when Arkansas was ranked. Arkansas is on the bubble and I think Oregon’s out of conference strength of schedule would put them in before Arkansas. LSU wasn’t competitive with S.Carolina the first time around. UCLA and Stanford were within single digits. So the committee must be going by the “eye test” with LSU and they’ve looked better in the last several weeks and will likely play S.Carolina in the SEC championship game. If they are competitive, maybe they rise above the 2 line but it’s not rational to award two SEC teams #1 seeds and the conference is down this year relative to the Big10 and ACC and PAC-12.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - 81alum - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 09:31 AM)81alum Wrote:  I am surprised, but Utah also losing certainly helped us.  Charlie Creme has often been too pro-Stanford in the past, so I will believe this when I see it.  It would help if as many projected 2 seeds lose as possible.

Other than Utah, all three projected 2s play today.

Iowa plays Maryland today, I think we hope for Maryland to beat down Iowa.  If Iowa wins, their resume for a 1 seed goes up.

Similarly, hope for Tennessee to beat LSU today, to keep LSU from threatening to move up.

Hopefully Duke beats Virginia Tech.

I imagine Iowa has the best shot at grabbing the 1 seed from us--or maybe LSU.  In any case, we should know a lot more after today.

Not that my heart is in watching other games and cheering for the right losses.  None of it matters if we do not get our own house in order.  But maybe our team can get a bit of a confidence booster if they don't get knocked down too far.

Virginia Tech beats Duke, so there is a threat to our one seed.

Iowas beats Maryland, so they are also a threat to take a one seed.

LSU is off to a hot start against Tennessee.  They are a threat to take a one seed.

I don't have faith we can hang on for a 1 seed.

In the vein of "misery love company" we can point to Ohio State beating 2 Indiana today.  For that matter, unranked Louisville crushed 10 Notre Dame 64-38.  Ugh.

I think rising levels of talent in WBB overall, plus transfers, are creating more parity and more unpredictable results than in the past.  A great many highly ranked teams have lost and will lose shortly.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - WBB fan - 03-04-2023

And Iowa has just beaten Maryland, 89 to 84. So like the Pac 12, top seeds are not in the final, both having lost in the semi final

RE: WBB:Bracketology - 81alum - 03-04-2023

Remember when Tara steadfastly opposed the Pac 12 adopting a tournament?  I'm beginning to see the logic of that.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Hoops9092 - 03-04-2023

Wow what a mess for the committee to try to sort out. I expect a lot of upsets this year in the regionals.

RE: WBB:Bracketology - Card10Fan - 03-04-2023

(03-04-2023, 05:20 PM)WBB fan Wrote:  And Iowa has just beaten Maryland, 89 to 84. So like the Pac 12, top seeds are not in the final, both having lost in the semi final

If Iowa wins tomorrow. They will have ended the year beating #2 Indiana, then #5 Maryland and then  #14 Ohio State. I think that’s enough for a 1 seed.

Bigten WBB is tough and extremely entertaining to watch.