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WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - mbdude - 04-07-2024

Iriafen, Brink Win Naismith Starting Five Awards - Stanford University Athletics (gostanford.com)

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - joemontes - 04-07-2024

(04-07-2024, 07:20 AM)mbdude Wrote:  Iriafen, Brink Win Naismith Starting Five Awards - Stanford University Athletics (gostanford.com)
Truly outstanding recognition for Kiki and Cam!  

Just confirms that they are the best PF/C combination in WCBB.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - martyup - 04-07-2024

Glad for these warriors.  They put in the hard work and they are reaping the rewards.

So glad we have Kiki back next season.  She's going to be hard to stop.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - Hoops9092 - 04-07-2024

So we officially have the best PF and best C and we couldn't get past the Sweet 16?! -__-

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - MV72018 - 04-07-2024

(04-07-2024, 10:09 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  So we officially have the best PF and best C and we couldn't get past the Sweet 16?! -__-

Here are six key reasons why this happened:

1. too many personal fouls by our two key bigs, leading them to play only 45 minutes combined 
2. insufficient speed and quickness by our guards on D  
3. poor shooting by our point guard and non-starters (3 for 21)
4. too many turnovers (14 for SU to 7 for NCS)
5. too few foul shots (7 for SU [all by Kiki] and 19 by NCS), because of few drives to the hoop by Stanford perimeter players, combined with...
6. dismal three-point shooting (5 for 25 for SU [20%] compared with 7 for 17 for NCS [41%])

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - JohnR34231 - 04-07-2024

Watching South Carolina's big pretty much have NC State for lunch, you wondered why Cam couldn't do the same thing.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - WBB fan - 04-07-2024

(04-07-2024, 11:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:  Watching South Carolina's big pretty much have NC State for lunch, you wondered why Cam couldn't do the same thing.

I think Cam would have earlier in the season. There just seemed to be something off with her in the last few games, including all the NCAA games and the Pac-12 tournament. But I'm so glad she got the recognition for her entire season, along with Kiki. Fantastic for the two of them.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - BosCard - 04-07-2024

(04-07-2024, 12:20 PM)WBB fan Wrote:  
(04-07-2024, 11:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:  Watching South Carolina's big pretty much have NC State for lunch, you wondered why Cam couldn't do the same thing.

I think Cam would have earlier in the season. There just seemed to be something off with her in the last few games, including all the NCAA games and the Pac-12 tournament. But I'm so glad she got the recognition for her entire season, along with Kiki. Fantastic for the two of them.

I agree.  Brink’s shooting overall declined quite a bit towards the end of the season.  You can see it most dramatically in her free throw shooting.  Have to believe there was an undisclosed injury.  But she was a warrior and just so dominant on the defensive end.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - TheFarm07 - 04-07-2024

(04-07-2024, 11:10 AM)MV72018 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024, 10:09 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  So we officially have the best PF and best C and we couldn't get past the Sweet 16?! -__-

Here are six key reasons why this happened:

1. too many personal fouls by our two key bigs, leading them to play only 45 minutes combined 
2. insufficient speed and quickness by our guards on D  
3. poor shooting by our point guard and non-starters (3 for 21)
4. too many turnovers (14 for SU to 7 for NCS)
5. too few foul shots (7 for SU [all by Kiki] and 19 by NCS), because of few drives to the hoop by Stanford perimeter players, combined with...
6. dismal three-point shooting (5 for 25 for SU [20%] compared with 7 for 17 for NCS [41%])

Underscores the big drop-off from Cam & Kiki to our guards; so many talented guards playing in another uniform that could have alleviated some of the pressure off of them.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - GK3 - 04-08-2024

(04-07-2024, 01:44 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024, 11:10 AM)MV72018 Wrote:  
(04-07-2024, 10:09 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  So we officially have the best PF and best C and we couldn't get past the Sweet 16?! -__-

Here are six key reasons why this happened:

1. too many personal fouls by our two key bigs, leading them to play only 45 minutes combined 
2. insufficient speed and quickness by our guards on D  
3. poor shooting by our point guard and non-starters (3 for 21)
4. too many turnovers (14 for SU to 7 for NCS)
5. too few foul shots (7 for SU [all by Kiki] and 19 by NCS), because of few drives to the hoop by Stanford perimeter players, combined with...
6. dismal three-point shooting (5 for 25 for SU [20%] compared with 7 for 17 for NCS [41%])

Underscores the big drop-off from Cam & Kiki to our guards; so many talented guards playing in another uniform that could have alleviated some of the pressure off of them.

!.  An issue resulting from out guard play.  We couldn't stop opposing guards from taking it to the basket and eventually drawing fouls.
1,2,3, and 6 pretty much due to our poor guard play.  Some turnovers came from Cam and Kiki, but mostly when they tried to make up for the lack of anyone else doing anything.  
Defenses could play off our guards and sag in to make passes inside harder since there wasn't a big risk of someone going off from 3.
The immense talent of Cam and Kiki won us the Pac 12 and got us to the Sweet 16.  With more average players we might not have made the tournament.
As has been mentioned elsewhere, I can't keep thinking that there is something about our system that is unattractive to the types of guards we really need.
I am concerned who we will have next year offensively besides Kiki.  We won't be able to play pass the ball to Kiki on every possession. There are young players who are supposed to have a lot of talent, but if they are that good why didn't we see them this season?

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - jonnyss - 04-08-2024

(04-07-2024, 11:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:  Watching South Carolina's big pretty much have NC State for lunch, you wondered why Cam couldn't do the same thing.

well, you can't exactly pack the post with te-hina paopao, milaysia fulwiley, tessa johnson, and raven johnson on the outside.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - Hoops9092 - 04-08-2024

South Carolina's depth sort of reminded me of our 2021-2022 team. We could go 8 or 9 deep then too.

RE: WBB: Kiki, Cam win Naismith starting 5 awards - MV72018 - 04-08-2024

(04-08-2024, 07:07 AM)jonnyss Wrote:  
(04-07-2024, 11:55 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:  Watching South Carolina's big pretty much have NC State for lunch, you wondered why Cam couldn't do the same thing.

well, you can't exactly pack the post with te-hina paopao, milaysia fulwiley, tessa johnson, and raven johnson on the outside.

On target! Especially relevant consideration for Kiki's prospects next year. 

Btw, Paopao's three-point shooting percentage this year was -- wait for it! -- 46.8%. Cardoza should thank her.