[Mick]

I want Shaw to succeed. I want him to win. There are a lot of question marks at the moment however. One thing though continues to pop into my mind, a great quote from Bum Phillips on Bear Bryant:

"Bryant can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n."

As great as Shaw's been with Stanford over the previous 8 years, I don't think he quite rises anywhere close to that capability.

In 38 coaching seasons with four different 4 schools, Bryant had one losing season (his first year at A&M), and two other five loss seasons (both 6-5, the last two years Alabama's team was segregated).

Couldn’t have been THAT good...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/12/09/p...ange-bowl/

[Mick]

I want Shaw to succeed. I want him to win. There are a lot of question marks at the moment however. One thing though continues to pop into my mind, a great quote from Bum Phillips on Bear Bryant:

"Bryant can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n."

As great as Shaw's been with Stanford over the previous 8 years, I don't think he quite rises anywhere close to that capability.

In 38 coaching seasons with four different 4 schools, Bryant had one losing season (his first year at A&M), and two other five loss seasons (both 6-5, the last two years Alabama's team was segregated).

Couldn’t have been THAT good...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2015/12/09/p...ange-bowl/

[martyup]

Great story.

[martyup]

Great story.

[81alum]

They didn't play "revenue" sports. Our one basketball championship dates to World War II, long before basketball was a "revenue" sport. We've never won it all at football.

Not quite accurate.  Shaughnessy's Wow Boys in 1940 were undefeated and ranked 2nd in the AP poll before the bowl games.  Stanford then beat Nebraska in the 1941 Rose Bowl.  There were about a dozen different systems that declared national champions, and Stanford was named champion in several of them.  There have been retroactive declarations that we were champions in 1940 too.

[81alum]

They didn't play "revenue" sports. Our one basketball championship dates to World War II, long before basketball was a "revenue" sport. We've never won it all at football.

Not quite accurate.  Shaughnessy's Wow Boys in 1940 were undefeated and ranked 2nd in the AP poll before the bowl games.  Stanford then beat Nebraska in the 1941 Rose Bowl.  There were about a dozen different systems that declared national champions, and Stanford was named champion in several of them.  There have been retroactive declarations that we were champions in 1940 too.